Ginobili has seen his star power grow

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Originally Posted by tlongII

Can you say "contract renegotiation?"

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Maybe, but are you his agent?

Don't try to make people believe that there is a conflict where there is none. Manu is more than happy in SA because he wants to be in a competitive team that is a serious title contender every year, but since you are a Portland fan that must be hard to understand. :lol Only j/k

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Originally Posted by MadDog73

But for Manu, I think it's more about the Championships than the money. Else he would have gone to Denver.

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Manu is not underpaid.

He makes a lot more money than I do and I do not play a game for a living.

I think Manu can feed his family with his paycheck, yes?

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Originally Posted by Jimcs50

Manu is not underpaid.

He makes a lot more money than I do and I do not play a game for a living.

I think Manu can feed his family with his paycheck, yes?

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True enough.

Manu does, however, make far less than the free market would bear for his talents and abilities.

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Originally Posted by Jimcs50

Manu is not underpaid.

He makes a lot more money than I do and I do not play a game for a living.

I think Manu can feed his family with his paycheck, yes?

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Oh, please. If NBA stars were content to make enough to live on, NO ONE would demand million dollar contracts. By your logic, Tim Duncan is "overpaid." Try telling him that...

If you want to get into a debate of how much NBA stars are paid, (which I agree, they are overpaid, but then, I'm not paying their salaries), that's a whole 'nother thread.

The fact is, Manu could be getting more from another team for what he does.

In fact, he probably could get A LOT more. And before people go "whoa, how much more?" I'm not just talking about his court skills (which in my opinion, are priceless), but the "buzz" that surrounds him. Manu is a "superstar" now (and yes, that term is overused), and teams will want him just to sell tickets. Especially with the fast pace of the "new" NBA, Manu's worth will continue to grow.

Spurs were smart to find him early, and lucky to keep him for what they are paying him.

I'm glad he's getting his due. I remember when watching the Spurs during the 2003 playoffs being impressed with Ginobili's game to the point that I thought he should be starting over Stephen Jackson. I told my friends/family "that guy is going to be a star one day" and they were like "What?!?". I was like look at him...everytime he comes in the game he makes things happen on both ends. I started following his career closely and I would get aggravated with Popovich's short leash on Manu because I knew he could break out if he was given some freedom. I think the Olympics was the best thing to happen for Ginobili. It's seemed to open Popovich's eyes of his total game and he finally let go of that leash. Now if only he could start playing him a little more...say 35 minutes a game ;)

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Originally Posted by FromWayDowntown

I think there's also a cumulative effect that crops up. Manu hasn't had any significant downtime during any of the last 3 summers (at least). He competed for Argentina in each of those summers (Worlds, Olympic Qualifying, Olympics). As picnroll notes, the Argentinian preparation for those competitions was decidedly different than the American preparation, and Manu was the focal point of each of those teams.

It doesn't matter, IMO, that he's in the prime of his career -- the human body eventually needs some time to recover in order to give optimal performance. (cough, cough, Earl Campbell, cough, cough). I have a feeling that Manu's body would be well-served with some downtime this summer and a chance to recover from the rigors of playing basketball, in essence, year-round for the last 3 years.

And I just wonder if there isn't better to come from Manu as a result of his finally getting some rest.

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That was not my post. Shit happens and it happened to me...
This is what I'd truly like to say: Emmanuel Ginobili is not your average guy. Because he's not your average guy, you can't apply average laws to him. He totally baffles me! Is he a fluke, or is this incredible talent a long-term thing?
My problem is that I've never been faced with such an outrageous talent before. You want to think that this awesome quickness, craftiness, explosiveness is a flash in the pan. How in hell could somebody this good keep it up?
But we are mere mortals. We recognize our limitations. We expect that every other human has the same limitations. Then along comes Manu Ginobili...
Ginobili is forcing us to rediscover ourselves and question the limitations we believe to exist. I'm as excited that a human has forced us to question our desire to limit other humans as I am that a fellow human has done a "Nah! Nah!" in our faces.
I love Manu Ginobili, even when he fails. He is so much more for trying than anyone else is for whining...

Ginobili is the Number One on the Spurs. Duncan is now number two.

Late.

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Originally Posted by SequSpur

Ginobili is the Number One on the Spurs. Duncan is now number two.

Late.

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OMG, what are my eyes reading? Have you converted to the Ginobili church? Were you baptised? :lol

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Originally Posted by SequSpur

Ginobili is the Number One on the Spurs. Duncan is now number two.

Late.

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Hummm Manu was MPV in almost every competition he was in, but ... better than TD, wow ... so much .. so early, perhaps in this moment Manu is doing some "things", but as he said ... "DO NOT forget I play next to TD, TP and the rest of Spurs"

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Originally Posted by SequSpur

Ginobili is the Number One on the Spurs. Duncan is now number two.

Late.

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You should then change your sig to "Without Duncan and Ginobili, we are fucked"

Anyways, welcome back from the Dark Side.

The other day I thought .. man he's playing like Jordan...

I am glad that he is a Spur. And I hope all this newly-found stardom (in the rest of the U.S.) guarantees that he remain a starter. I think fans want to see a star from the beginning of a game. And he does not have an ego problem so I am sure that he would not want to be involved in a controversy as to who is no. 1. He stated after game 2 that Duncan was the best player on the team and we know that Tim is no. 1.
But Manu is a great no. 2.

He's Super Man-u ( better what out Suns!)

On the news the other night they showed him on the front cover of ESPN the magazine. Do ya'll know when that issue comes out? :)

I believe it is June... so hopefully any time now.
I saw the cover in the paper. Looks awesome. Hey, have you guys seen our terrific trio on the cover of Slam yet?
I highly recommend buying it. The article about us is full of our quotes as is one of the most enjoyable ones I have ever read.

Manu will become an endorsement King. Kids and Chicks love him.

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Originally Posted by angel_luv

I believe it is June... so hopefully any time now.
I saw the cover in the paper. Looks awesome. Hey, have you guys seen our terrific trio on the cover of Slam yet?
I highly recommend buying it. The article about us is full of our quotes as is one of the most enjoyable ones I have ever read.

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Nope available here, post a pic

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Originally Posted by SequSpur

Ginobili is the Number One on the Spurs. Duncan is now number two.

Late.

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But I thought Manu = Manure?

http://pages.sbcglobal.net/dpacheco/...cover_espn.JPG
link to pic
tnx to Kidd 91, from another forum :elephant

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Originally Posted by Athenea

http://pages.sbcglobal.net/dpacheco/...cover_espn.JPG
link to pic
tnx to Kidd 91, from another forum :elephant

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tnx!!!