Quick Grades: Spurs at Nuggets - Dec. 16

Quick Grades: Spurs at Nuggets

For the second straight night, Manu Ginobili played the role of hero. He followed up his buzzer beater against the Bucks with a pair of valiant late-game plays against the Nuggets. First, Ginobili hit a twisting layup with 4.2 seconds left to give the Spurs a one point lead. To seal the 113-112 victory, Ginobili drew a charge on Carmelo Anthony at the final horn. The Spurs are now 22-3 and improved to 9-1 on the road with their win in Denver.

Tim Duncan A+
Prior to this game, Tim Duncan was averaging 7.3 points and 4 rebounds on the second night of back-to-backs. That made his performance against the Nuggets even more stunning. He finished with 28 points, 16 rebounds, four assists, four blocks and no turnovers on 12-for-18 shooting — numbers that could make a Tim-Duncan-in-his-prime blush. He did a very good job taking control of the offense when things stagnated. On defense, he defended the rim well and cleaned the defensive backboard. He had some issues defending Nene in isolations … but that’s nitpicking an otherwise fantastic effort.

Manu Ginobili A-
That’s a high grade for a player who was 1-for-8 after three quarters and looked completely out of gas but Manu Ginobili more than made up for his early struggles with his play in the final stanza. Starting at the 10:30 mark in the fourth quarter, Ginobili scored or assisted on the subsequent five field goals over a four minute stretch to turn a one-point deficit into a nine-point advantage. And that was only the hors d’oeuvres. Ginobili single-handedly won the game with his two huge plays at the end. Great instincts. Great competitor. Great season.

Tony Parker A
From the middle of the first quarter until halftime, Tony Parker was the main reason why the Spurs were able to keep it close. He did a very good job of relentlessly attacking the rim and creating offense. In the second half, Parker wasn’t as successful but he kept his foot on the gas. Finishing with nine assists and only two turnovers is very much acceptable. I liked his defensive work for much of the night; he hounded Ty Lawson and kept him from being able to push the pace. It wasn’t Parker’s most aesthetically pleasing game but he played a key role in the win.

Richard Jefferson B
Carmelo Anthony is a tough cover but I wasn’t too impressed with Richard Jefferson’s defense on him. Jefferson spent much of the night chasing around Anthony but couldn’t find a way to make life difficult for the Denver’s disgruntled star. Other than Jefferson’s questionable defense on Anthony, he played well. On offense, he ran the court and hit a few huge three-pointers — most notably a triple with two and a half minutes left to give the Spurs a five-point lead. Jefferson continues to find ways to produce without consistent touches and that in itself is an extreme change from last season.

DeJuan Blair C+
The good news is that DeJuan Blair is back to being very good at finishing around the rim. His body control is back along with his soft touch. Blair’s also making steady progress on the defensive end in terms of knowing where to be. The bad news is that he hasn’t been rebounding lately. In the last three games, Blair has only ten boards in 54 minutes. If Blair isn’t rebounding at a high level, the rest of his game isn’t good enough to compensate.

George Hill D
For the second straight game, George Hill reverted back to the passive George Hill we saw early in the season. When he doesn’t come out of the gates looking to attack, he becomes a liability really fast. He tried to force things as the game progressed but that only made it worse. Even worse, Hill’s struggles on the offensive end impacted his effort on the defensive end. Overall, he had a few good moments but the Spurs need him to snap out of this funk.

Gary Neal B-
Gary Neal continues to show he’s not afraid to fire away. He might have forced a shot or two but he’s in there to shoot and keep the defense honest so I can’t complain too much. Defensively, Neal had real trouble against the athletic wings on Denver. The effort was there but the results were mostly poor. To his credit, Neal gave it his all on the defensive glass. His seven defensive rebounds were more than double of anyone on the team not named Tim Duncan.

Matt Bonner B+
Matt Bonner hit 3-of-4 three-pointers, rebounded better than usual and led the team with a plus/minus of +16. Those numbers make it difficult to complain about Bonner on this night.

Antonio McDyess B
His grade would have been better if he didn’t have a late turnover that almost gave the win to the Nuggets. Before that play, McDyess was really good. His defense was solid in the paint and out on the perimeter. He hit all three of his shots on offense and moved well without the ball. McDyess didn’t play in the first half so his presence in the second half was even more apparent than usual.

I think we should start using Bonner 30 minutes mandatorily on all B2B's from now on. Fucker plays like an animal for some reason.

I see your in the camp that believes McDyess fucked up by passing it right into Ginobili's hand.

Good grades, although Dice's score is understandably difficult to assign. Great play from him, but he (and JR Smith's capitalization/foul off Antonio's bad inbound) almost lost us the game.

It's like I said before, had Dice been throwing to Manu's left hand, he would have caught it blindfolded while doing a handstand.

It's not McDyess' fault Ginobili is extremely left hand dominant.

/shrug

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Originally Posted by TJastal

I see your in the camp that believes McDyess fucked up by passing it right into Ginobili's hand.

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I don't know about timvp, but I definitely thought that in trying to pass clear of his cover, Dice passed too low and away from Manu given JR Smith was right behind Ginobili. Not clear Antonio had much choice, but he still had time to wait for a clear passing lane.

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Originally Posted by TJastal

It's like I said before, had Dice been throwing to Manu's left hand, he would have caught it blindfolded while doing a handstand.

It's not McDyess' fault Ginobili is extremely left hand dominant.

/shrug

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Agreed -- although it's also not Dice's fault that Manu's left hand was obscured by Dice's defender.

Did you make grades for the Bucks game? I can't find the thread.

Once again, good grades.

No grade for Chris Quinn? Guy scored 2 points in 2 minutes :lol

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Originally Posted by admiralsnackbar

I don't know about timvp, but I definitely thought that in trying to pass clear of his cover, Dice passed too low and away from Manu given JR Smith was right behind Ginobili. Not clear Antonio had much choice, but he still had time to wait for a clear passing lane.

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I rewound the DVR and am watching the replay now, the pass was a perfectly thrown shoulder high chest pass perfectly spotted to Ginobili's right hand. Yes, Smith is lunging at Manu as well but his outstretched hand doesn't deflect the pass that I can tell, the ball simply bounces off Ginobili's right hand and ricochets off his face.

Nice grades as usual, I think we saved our clothes this time.
Nice game by TD, TP, also liked Bonner and ... what to say about Manu.

If 6 foot nothing Gary Neal can pull down seven boards in 19 minutes then RJ has no excuse for pulling down two boards in 36 minutes.

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Originally Posted by TJastal

I rewound the DVR and am watching the replay now, the pass was a perfectly thrown shoulder high chest pass perfectly spotted to Ginobili's right hand. Yes, Smith is lunging at Manu as well but his outstretched hand doesn't deflect the pass that I can tell, the ball simply bounces off Ginobili's right hand and ricochets off his face.

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Right on... if you have the tape in front of you, I'll defer to you. My memory is different, but memory is memory.

The ending sequence of that game is truly vintage Ginobili. He makes a couple of clutch shots highlighted by that critical 3 point attempt near the end of the game (good). He fumbles a pass from McDyess, giving Denver the lead with a couple of seconds left (bad). He makes up for that error immediately by hitting a game winning shot and taking the game-winning charge (good).

I tell you it's a god damned roller coaster ride of emotions with Ginobili sometimes, and I wouldn't have it any other way.

Tony and TD kept the spurs within striking distance in the first 3 quarters. Manu finished the job for the spurs. Thanks timvp.

IMO the player of the game for the spurs is Tim, I was very pleased to see him being dominant ! 16 reb 4 blks 4 assists 0 TO and 30 pts to go with huge ! I'm more than happy to see 4 or 5 threads about how great Manu is but Tim performance has been overlooked badly.

Manu well he is Manu Ginobili, after 3 ghosts quarters a new clutch 4th quarter despite the last TO. The Dice pass was not a very good one but this TO is on him.

Great game too for TP, Offensively he took over while Manu was struggling which is a very good sign. TP is not forcing things Offensively when Manu is hot, he just let him taking the shots when Manu struggles he is capable of taking the O load. What a great combo ! 9 assists for 3 TOs is pretty good.

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Originally Posted by DAF86

Did you make grades for the Bucks game? I can't find the thread.

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Search->"quick Grades" = http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...t=quick+grades

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Originally Posted by benefactor

If 6 foot nothing Gary Neal can pull down seven boards in 19 minutes then RJ has no excuse for pulling down two boards in 36 minutes.

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Do you understand 95 % of Gary Neal's rebounds are uncontested?

Start keeping an eye out, Gary Neal is perhaps the biggest rebound whore when it comes to uncontested rebounds. ( This is when the majority of the offensive players of the opposition run back to defense, which leaves uncontested defensive rebounds up for grabs for 3-4 Spurs players; which Neal literally steals from his own teammates by taking the most initiative when really any Spurs player could have grabbed the easy uncontested board).

When it comes to contested rebounds R.J has him beat by miles.

The rebound statistic can be somewhat misleading because of this. I personally wish they had a contested rebound statistic.

Tim Duncan might be looking at a Western Conference Player of the Week berth following this morning's game against Denver and his 7 block outing against Milwaukee the night before. If he can play solidly against Memphis it'll be a really nice stretch.

Gary Neal has been absolutely phenomenal for us. While he doesn't always have the size, speed, quickness, skill or whatever to handle the current opponent, he always goes in there and gives EVERYTHING to the mission. Whether its unrelenting effort on defense, rebounds, nifty assists or just scrappy hustle plays, the guy is all heart and doesn't bitch. Plus, hes got a shooter's mentality with an in between game to boot. I was hopeful, but unconvinced, heading into Summer League, but now I'm just terribly happy.

George Hill, George Hill, where for art thou George Hill? Seriously, wake up man.

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Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres

Do you understand 95 % of Gary Neal's rebounds are uncontested?

Start keeping an eye out, Gary Neal is perhaps the biggest rebound whore when it comes to uncontested rebounds. ( This is when the majority of the offensive players of the opposition run back to defense, which leaves uncontested defensive rebounds up for grabs for 3-4 Spurs players).

When it comes to contested rebounds R.J has him beat by miles.

The rebound statistic can be somewhat misleading because of this . I personally wish they had a contested rebound statistic.

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Seconded.

You don't often see Neal fighting with anybody and wrestling a rebound away. But he does end up with a lot of rebounds. Jefferson on the other hand doesn't get many boards, but you'll see him make 1-3 athletic plays snagging a rebound each game regardless.

GARY NEAl when he got subbed it, 2 quick plays for him to get him started, both missed shots...i nearly gave up when we were down and we didnt need these boneheaded plays....

i agree he needs shots to get going, but damn he was really good tonight...he made a poster

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Originally Posted by Darkwaters

Tim Duncan might be looking at a Western Conference Player of the Week berth following this morning's game against Denver and his 7 block outing against Milwaukee the night before. If he can play solidly against Memphis it'll be a really nice stretch.

Gary Neal has been absolutely phenomenal for us. While he doesn't always have the size, speed, quickness, skill or whatever to handle the current opponent, he always goes in there and gives EVERYTHING to the mission. Whether its unrelenting effort on defense, rebounds, nifty assists or just scrappy hustle plays, the guy is all heart and doesn't bitch. Plus, hes got a shooter's mentality with an in between game to boot. I was hopeful, but unconvinced, heading into Summer League, but now I'm just terribly happy.

George Hill, George Hill, where for art thou George Hill? Seriously, wake up man.

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I think I heard something about Hill hurting his big toe or something like that which would explain his passiveness....

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Originally Posted by benefactor

If 6 foot nothing Gary Neal can pull down seven boards in 19 minutes then RJ has no excuse for pulling down two boards in 36 minutes.

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RJ is usually right there with Tony leading the fast break. He's a good rebounder but it seems like Pop would rather have him down the floor on a missed shot, than have him in the paint fighting for boards. And it seems to be a good strategy, considering the Spurs are 4th in the NBA right now in fast break points per game.

I love mornings like this when I can get up, fix a cup of coffee and read all the usual sources (espn/fox/SI) then come here to savor an outstanding victory. I dont think the Spurs were expected to pull that one off. Duncan was just great throughout, Manu won the game at the end, thats for sure but I want to make sure Tony doesnt get shortchanged here. He did an outstanding job earlier that kept the Spurs in it and without his efforts this game wouldnt have been close. There is a great article (ESPN I think) that discusses today that with Tony doing all the heavy lifting in the first three quarters that allows Manu to be fresh in the 4th to come out with his acrobatic heroics. Just sayin Tony had a hell of a game last night.

This is a game Spurs wouldn't have had a chance in last season.
Behind early and into the 3rd, on the road, altitude, 2nd nite of B2B -- it would have been a 15 point loss, easy.

Great fight, especially in the 4th Q. Timmy, Tony, Manu, & RJ simply wouldn't let the game get away, even in the face of bad bounces and bad mistakes on O and D.

The Will to Win is strong in this team.

Excellent analysis.

Keep up the good work. Thank you!:lobt2::lobt2:

Go Spurs go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Did anyone else hear Kevin Harlan briefly mention something like ..."and on the floor is George Hill, who by the way, is playing with a bad toe tonight."??

I think it was in the beginning of the 4th quarter. If true, it could explain his consecutive bad outings.

4,000th post!!!

:danceclub

That is all.

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Originally Posted by Gooshie

Did anyone else hear Kevin Harlan briefly mention something like ..."and on the floor is George Hill, who by the way, is playing with a bad toe tonight."??

I think it was in the beginning of the 4th quarter. If true, it could explain his consecutive bad outings.

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Ok, I thought I was crazy because I heard that as well but nobody in the game thread talked about it. But if George has a toe injury, then he should rest for some games ...

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Originally Posted by bigfan

I love mornings like this when I can get up, fix a cup of coffee and read all the usual sources (espn/fox/SI) then come here to savor an outstanding victory. I dont think the Spurs were expected to pull that one off. Duncan was just great throughout, Manu won the game at the end, thats for sure but I want to make sure Tony doesnt get shortchanged here. He did an outstanding job earlier that kept the Spurs in it and without his efforts this game wouldnt have been close. There is a great article (ESPN I think) that discusses today that with Tony doing all the heavy lifting in the first three quarters that allows Manu to be fresh in the 4th to come out with his acrobatic heroics. Just sayin Tony had a hell of a game last night.

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Originally Posted by bigfan

I love mornings like this when I can get up, fix a cup of coffee and read all the usual sources (espn/fox/SI) then come here to savor an outstanding victory. I dont think the Spurs were expected to pull that one off. Duncan was just great throughout, Manu won the game at the end, thats for sure but I want to make sure Tony doesnt get shortchanged here. He did an outstanding job earlier that kept the Spurs in it and without his efforts this game wouldnt have been close. There is a great article (ESPN I think) that discusses today that with Tony doing all the heavy lifting in the first three quarters that allows Manu to be fresh in the 4th to come out with his acrobatic heroics. Just sayin Tony had a hell of a game last night.

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Agree. Parker was outstanding (as was Duncan) and both deserved the most credit for winning the game, but Manu was incredible when the game was on the line which counts for alot of credit too.

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Originally Posted by Fireball

Ok, I thought I was crazy because I heard that as well but nobody in the game thread talked about it. But if George has a toe injury, then he should rest for some games ...

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I did hear that. Explains why he has been so shitty the last couple of games.

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Originally Posted by timvp

Quick Grades: Spurs at Nuggets

For the second straight night, Manu Ginobili played the role of hero. He followed up his buzzer beater against the Bucks with a pair of valiant late-game plays against the Nuggets. First, Ginobili hit a twisting layup with 4.2 seconds left to give the Spurs a one point lead. To seal the 113-112 victory, Ginobili drew a charge on Carmelo Anthony at the final horn. The Spurs are now 22-3 and improved to 9-1 on the road with their win in Denver.

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I'd have to agree with all those assessments, yet you look at the box score, and the Spurs starters other than Manu (whose numbers were not great) were all in the negative. Tim (-3) RJ a whopping (-21).

The bench players all were in the positive, including Bonner at (+16)........yet none could pull an A grade......

any post game quotes from game?

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Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres

The rebound statistic can be somewhat misleading because of this. I personally wish they had a contested rebound statistic.

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That would be nice but then again you wold need to precise what a contested reb is or how much contested.

that's why stats will not tell you the whole story

What about a grade for Ime's total of 6 seconds where he played ole defense at the end of the quarter and let JR Smith throw down the nasty dunk.... then he found the bench the rest of the game. That's worth at least a B+, no? :)

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Originally Posted by benefactor

If 6 foot nothing Gary Neal can pull down seven boards in 19 minutes then RJ has no excuse for pulling down two boards in 36 minutes.

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I think RJ's job in this one was more to keep Melo off the glass than to get many boards himself. Melo had just 1, so mission accomplished there.

Tough to complain about any individual rebounder when the Spurs outrebounded them by 6 on the road. When Timmy gets 16 by himself, that doesn't leave too many for the other guys to collect.

Good grades, but I agree with the minority. Mcdyess's pass was perfect. Ginobili just gaffed...

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Originally Posted by bigfan

I love mornings like this when I can get up, fix a cup of coffee and read all the usual sources (espn/fox/SI) then come here to savor an outstanding victory. I dont think the Spurs were expected to pull that one off. Duncan was just great throughout, Manu won the game at the end, thats for sure but I want to make sure Tony doesnt get shortchanged here. He did an outstanding job earlier that kept the Spurs in it and without his efforts this game wouldnt have been close. There is a great article (ESPN I think) that discusses today that with Tony doing all the heavy lifting in the first three quarters that allows Manu to be fresh in the 4th to come out with his acrobatic heroics. Just sayin Tony had a hell of a game last night.

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Originally Posted by YODA

any post game quotes from game?

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I posted entire 3-5 minute audio interviews of the game from Melo, Ginobili, and Coach Karl.

This was a game the Spurs could easily have lost without too much bitching. A back to back in the thin air of Denver would be an easy game for the guys to give a so-so effort and go home.

But these guys are getting the confidence that they can win any game they put their mind too (much like the 99 team)

And Manu--what can you say about Manu other than his will to win probably exceeds anyone since Larry Bird or Michael Jordan. He makes a potential winning shot then loses the ball but doesn't give up and quit--just continues to play like a dervish, makes a shot to get back the lead and then imposes his will on Carmelo.

It is a remarkable thing and I hope everyone realizes what a privilege it is to have him on the Spurs to watch.

just benefactor being a negative nancy, nothing new.

Pop deserves an F for that inbounds play at the end. Every other good thing the Spurs did in that game was almost undone by that one play. People can debate McDyess' pass, or whether Manu got fouled. None of that changes anything for Pop. There is no way that pass should have been taking place under Denver's basket. None.

You guys are so easy...almost as easy as the Parker lovers.

Seriously though, great job by RJ in the 4th. He his some big shots to help seal the win.

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Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres

which Neal literally steals from his own teammates by taking the most initiative when really any Spurs player could have grabbed the easy uncontested board).

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I've noticed this too. On at least two occasions last night I remember Duncan pulling back and basically WTFing Neal ripping the board from his hands.

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Originally Posted by Blake

I'd have to agree with all those assessments, yet you look at the box score, and the Spurs starters other than Manu (whose numbers were not great) were all in the negative. Tim (-3) RJ a whopping (-21).

The bench players all were in the positive, including Bonner at (+16)........yet none could pull an A grade......

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These +/- stats are not always reflecting the production/level of the players, and last night they didn't!

Manu had an awfull game until the end of the 4th

Hill is +8 and Tony -9 .....!!!!???

same for Timmy...

In fact these stats could lead to believe Bonner is the best player on the roster... :lol

As great as Tim and TP were early, and Manu was late, RJ and Bonner put in some big, big shots. That's why we have a chance this year imo.

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Originally Posted by spurs10

As great as Tim and TP were early, and Manu was late, RJ and Bonner put in some big, big shots. That's why we have a chance this year imo.

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yup!

As painfull as was our last PO exit, the production of the big3 wasn't the problem, it was the supporting cast ... :bang

This was perhaps the best Bonner performance I've ever seen. Yes, he's had better numbers/production, but his 3pt shooting, rebounding and FT shooting came precisely when we needed it. Rather Horry like. Rather uncharacteristic.

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Originally Posted by Capt Bringdown

This was perhaps the best Bonner performance I've ever seen. Yes, he's had better numbers/production, but his 3pt shooting, rebounding and FT shooting came precisely when we needed it. Rather Horry like. Rather uncharacteristic.

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Oh ohh, I wanna be first on this one.

Big Shot Bonner!

:lol

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Originally Posted by 8FOR!3

Oh ohh, I wanna be first on this one.

Big Shot Bonner!

:lol

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And probably the last.. but I'm hoping he can grow some balls.

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Originally Posted by Pauleta14

These +/- stats are not always reflecting the production/level of the players, and last night they didn't!

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what it mostly reflected was that the Nuggets starters were beating the Spurs starters. The score at the end of the first quarter reflected as much.

...yet As and Bs were passed out to them....

manu deservers a b
duncan and tp carried the spurs throughtout the game
manu did not

HOW IN THE HELL DOES manu get the credit for the wwhen those other two clearly outplayed him

LOL ducks

one of the themes this year in close wins has been players outside of the Big 3 stepping up and hitting clutch shots. in the win against the Magic, Suns and Nuggets, RJ has stepped up and hit key outside shots that he's gotten off of penetration and kick. the game where he didn't do that was against Dallas, and we lost that one. of course, there was a lot more wrong with that game than RJ playing bad, but it will be KEY for RJ to keep making shots off of kicks.

I'm a little worried about Manu. He's played great, but he's had some horrific games lately. the away game against the Clippers, the home game against the Wolves, and now the one against Denver. it's been overshadowed by the fact that he's hit some clutch shots, but he's is CLEARLY tired right now.

i'm also worried about Hill. Hill does not play well on the road. this is a trend i've noticed going back to last year. sure he's had good away games, but they're too few and far between. this is one of the reasons i'm not "sold" on Hill. playoff success is largely dependent on being able to win away games, and if a key player can't step it up on the road, you have to consider trading him for a player that will.

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Originally Posted by ducks

manu deservers a b
duncan and tp carried the spurs throughtout the game
manu did not

HOW IN THE HELL DOES manu get the credit for the wwhen those other two clearly outplayed him

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I agree with you. Manu's played great in the last quarter, but he's had some horrific plays in the first half and he struggled early. Without TD and TP, the game was not a closed game against the nuggets.
TP was awesome is this first half !!!
I'm not sure but it was something like 18 pt with (7/11) and 7 ast !!
YES, TD and TP carried the spurs throughtout the game.

Now I have a question, I'm not an expert of the nba but if Anthony makes an offensive foul in the last play, what do you think about the dunk Of Smith on Neal's head at the end of the first quarter. The foul is for Smith !! The rules are very strange is the NBA ! This is not the spirit of BB. Definitely, it's not BB ! Perhaps the Refs was very bad in this game?

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Originally Posted by ego

Now I have a question, I'm not an expert of the nba but if Anthony makes an offensive foul in the last play, what do you think about the dunk Of Smith on Neal's head at the end of the first quarter. The foul is for Smith !! The rules are very strange is the NBA ! This is not the spirit of BB. Definitely, it's not BB ! Perhaps the Refs was very bad in this game?

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I believe Neal was standing in the restricted area, which is why the refs called the block rather than the charge.

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Originally Posted by ducks

manu deservers a b
duncan and tp carried the spurs throughtout the game
manu did not

HOW IN THE HELL DOES manu get the credit for the wwhen those other two clearly outplayed him

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ducks' tune hasn't changed for 8 yrs

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Originally Posted by Lebowski Brickowski

The Will to Win is strong in this team.

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This. I had written this off as a loss, and for the first quarter and a half it looked like it was going to be a classic 20 point blowout.

This team just keeps coming at you. Hopefully this style of play doesnt wear down our guys before the real season starts.

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Originally Posted by ducks

manu deservers a b
duncan and tp carried the spurs throughtout the game
manu did not

HOW IN THE HELL DOES manu get the credit for the wwhen those other two clearly outplayed him

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lol ducks

Your blind hatred of Manu is quite impressive

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Originally Posted by ego

I agree with you. Manu's played great in the last quarter, but he's had some horrific plays in the first half and he struggled early. Without TD and TP, the game was not a closed game against the nuggets.
TP was awesome is this first half !!!
I'm not sure but it was something like 18 pt with (7/11) and 7 ast !!
YES, TD and TP carried the spurs throughtout the game.

Now I have a question, I'm not an expert of the nba but if Anthony makes an offensive foul in the last play, what do you think about the dunk Of Smith on Neal's head at the end of the first quarter. The foul is for Smith !! The rules are very strange is the NBA ! This is not the spirit of BB. Definitely, it's not BB ! Perhaps the Refs was very bad in this game?

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enough said

tp first quarter he got 5 assist and around 7 points
HE Set the tone


manu plays well for 5 minutes in the forth and everyone talks about how great he was and he won the game

:rolleyes:rolleyes:rolleyes:rolleyes:rolleyes:roll eyes:rolleyes:rolleyes

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Originally Posted by ducks

enough said

tp first quarter he got 5 assist and around 7 points
HE Set the tone


manu plays well for 5 minutes in the forth and everyone talks about how great he was and he won the game

:rolleyes:rolleyes:rolleyes:rolleyes:rolleyes:roll eyes:rolleyes:rolleyes

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Of course, MANU IS THE CLOSER!