In order for SA to win a title this year....

Dallas will have to knock off LA. The Mavs with Haywood, Chandler, and Dirk are the only team equipped to handle the frontcourt that LA posesses. I think SA can beat Dallas head to head but I think the Spurs have no shot against LA with the decline of Duncan.

This isn't a troll thread since I still think the Spurs can win it all, but the only way I can see it happening is in this format.

Spurs get the 1, Dal/LA gets the 2/3, then Dallas knocks off LA, Spurs knock off Dal, Spurs play a hell of a series against Boston or Miami

Feel free to disagree, but I think that's SA's only shot

so getting the number one seed would be a good idea then

LMFAO Haywood is garbage. 20% FT shooting LOL in the playoffs he won't even get over 10 mpg.

And when has Dirk ever stood up to the Lakers? Odom will go exercise bike on his ass.

try again.

Don't know if that's the case but I definitely wouldn't object to a Dallas/LA series in the semis.

LA is a playoff tested, championship team. If they are healthy come playoff time, I don't think their greatest concern will be facing a team (Dallas) that's never figured out how to win shit.

They know what it takes to win and they also know the Spurs have what it takes. I'm sure the truth hurts, but you're losers until you win. The Mavs are losers.

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the Spurs have what it takes.

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Like getting swept by the Suns:lmao

Jesus, I hope The Spurs aren't hoping they get to dodge somebody to win a championship.

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Jesus, I hope The Spurs aren't hoping they get to dodge somebody to win a championship.

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This. But why take the chance and just get the 1st seed. LA choking and being 4-5 seed will be tough on the spurs still. I would still say Spurs should be favored if this happened.

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Don't know if that's the case but I definitely wouldn't object to a Dallas/LA series in the semis.

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Originally Posted by BUMP.

Like getting swept by the Suns:lmao

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Every team loses - few teams win. Where do the Mavs fit?

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Originally Posted by ohmwrecker

Jesus, I hope The Spurs aren't hoping they get to dodge somebody to win a championship.

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I'm not talking shit, but there's just absolutely no way the Spurs can match up with LA's frontcourt. Who guards Odom? Who guards Gasol? Who guards Bynum?

GNSF can throw around all the Mavs choking references they want to, but it still won't change the fact that they'll need Dallas to beat LA for them since they are better equipped

Definitely would make a title run easier for the Spurs if those 2 butted heads in the playoffs.

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Originally Posted by BUMP.

Like getting swept by the Suns:lmao

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4 Finals appearances = 4 titles.

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Originally Posted by edmon

Every team loses - few teams win. Where do the Mavs fit?

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I'm not denying the fact that the Mavs have choked over the years and still could this year. That's not what this thread is about.

If Dallas doesn't knock off LA, and SA is forced to play the Lakers, they will get eliminated due to LA's frontcourt posing great mismatches. Do you agree or disagree and why? Or do you just want to go the 5th grade route and post more funny Mav choking references?

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Originally Posted by BUMP.

I'm not talking shit, but there's just absolutely no way the Spurs can match up with LA's frontcourt. Who guards Odom? Who guards Gasol? Who guards Bynum?

GNSF can throw around all the Mavs choking references they want to, but it still won't change the fact that they'll need Dallas to beat LA for them since they are better equipped

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thanx.....am sure pop has it figured out what to do and how to do.......

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Jesus, I hope The Spurs aren't hoping they get to dodge somebody to win a championship.

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You would have to be crazy to WANT to play the Lakers in the WCF, anyone would take the easiest road to the Finals if they could.

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I'm not talking shit, but there's just absolutely no way the Spurs can match up with LA's frontcourt. Who guards Odom? Who guards Gasol? Who guards Bynum?

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Uh . . . Duncan, Blair, McDyess, Bonner and Splitter . . . that's who they have. It will obviously have be "by committee". The Spurs can beat LA. They did it last year in reg. season. It can be done. Guard play and team defense will obviously have to be at the Spurs advantage to even the Lakers post advantage. No disrespect, but it's a little overblown imo tbh . . .

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Yeah, you are, but that's really not the point.

You've just stated the incredibly obvious.

In a conference where the top 3 teams have separated themselves from the rest of the group, the #1 seed has a huge advantage over the other two top teams. The #2 and the #3 have to beat both of the other two top teams, with #3 team having to win two series without HCA.

So, thanks for sharing.

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You would have to be crazy to WANT to play the Lakers in the WCF, anyone would take the easiest road to the Finals if they could.

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I guess I am crazy, but I feel like that is a pretty horrible attitude for a team that wants to win a championship to carry into the post season.

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Odom - that's one guy Matt Bonner could probably defend since he has both the quickness and height.

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Gasol - Tim Duncan, Antonio McDyess...'nuff said. Each of them can shut any one of them down, except for perhaps the super-quick Odom.

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Neither one of them will "shut him down", have you even watched Tim Duncan this year? McDyess might be able to slow him down but the bottom line is that Gasol is too tall and will get his eventually

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Bynum - If LA uses their big lineup we should most definitely use McDyess and Tim on the court at the same time. In addition we'll most likely have to give Tiago 10-15 minutes to defend that position. Blair shouldn't see the court at all except in garbage time if there's any garbage time at all.

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Bynum won't score a lot but it's gonna be hard as hell for them to keep him off the boards. Not to mention the defense he brings on the other end in guarding Duncan

Nobody matches up with LA's frontline, and nobody matches up with Kobe - that's why I'd be shocked if they don't cruise to another title this year.

So far, the Mavs look like more of a threat than LA, tbh. That will probably change later in the season, when the Lakers go on their inevitable run, but right now, it's all about getting that #1 seed and making DAL/LAL play each other first before they get to us.

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Odom - that's one guy Matt Bonner could probably defend since he has both the quickness and height. If LA uses their big lineup we MIGHT see him at SF a lot since we can't have 3 non-shooter bigs on the floor. It just scares me to think what Odom would do to RJ, Anderson or Neal.

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Please tell me your kidding. Odom is the worst nighmare of a matchup for Bonner. Odom runs circles around Bonner.

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Originally Posted by guitardude27

Gasol - Tim Duncan, Antonio McDyess...'nuff said. Each of them can shut any one of them down, except for perhaps the super-quick Odom.

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Disagree. The best we could hope for is that Gasol and Duncan cancel each other out.

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Bynum - If LA uses their big lineup we should most definitely use McDyess and Tim on the court at the same time. In addition we'll most likely have to give Tiago 10-15 minutes to defend that position. Blair shouldn't see the court at all except in garbage time if there's any garbage time at all.

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Agree on Splitter needing to be effective in this series. As far as Blair, either he and/or Bonner have to at the very least, be able to spell the Spurs bigs for at least a couple minutes here and there in the series and not be a liability when they are out there. That might be asking alot, but IMO Blair and/or Bonner have to contribute in this proposed playoff series with the Lakers.

Sounds like a good idea, hope CIA pop is reading this.

As it stands right now, only 3 teams have a shot to come out of the west and that's San Antonio, Dallas, and LA. LA has the best chance to come out because of their size with San Antonio and Dallas right behind them, imho.

Against the Lakers, it will come down to three point shooting as it always does. If Bonner and RJ shrink up under the bright lights, we have no shot. We need a Jaren Jackson or Stephen Jackson type playoff performance from someone to beat those guys.

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Didn't they in 2007 with the Mavericks and Pistons?

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fool, the 07 Spurs balled hard to get that ship. quit talking mess.

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You would have to be crazy to WANT to play the Lakers in the WCF.

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the goods :tu

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fool, the 07 Spurs balled hard to get that ship. quit talking mess.

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http://ginosjungle.webs.com/Tim%20Donaghy.jpg

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the goods :tu

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I get it . . . I do. The Lakers are going to be the toughest out for sure and I would be happy with another LOB any way it comes, but I would really love to see the Spurs beat LA to do it. It's with respect to the Lakers as defending champs to know that it means more.

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http://ginosjungle.webs.com/Tim%20Donaghy.jpg

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Chris Webber is calling for you.

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/961/spursthreat.jpg

Fuck you, Delaware.

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I get it . . . I do. The Lakers are going to be the toughest out for sure and I would be happy with another LOB any way it comes, but I would really love to see the Spurs beat LA to do it. It's with respect to the Lakers as defending champs to know that it means more.

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I hear ya...Tim's gonna need a lot of help down low to make that happen though.

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Chris Webber is calling for you.

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Webber, Stojakovic, Christie, Divac, and the rest of the bunch have nobody to blame but themselves. Bibby is the only one with a legit gripe. The rest of them were career choke-artists.

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Fuck you, Delaware.

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:lol

I honestly don't get why the majority of Spurs fans on this board consider SA beating DAL in a 7-game series a foregone conclusion...

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Cali giving the Mavs no love. haha

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:lol

I honestly don't get why the majority of Spurs fans on this board consider SA beating DAL in a 7-game series a foregone conclusion...

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Who? What? Where?

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I get it . . . I do. The Lakers are going to be the toughest out for sure and I would be happy with another LOB any way it comes, but I would really love to see the Spurs beat LA to do it. It's with respect to the Lakers as defending champs to know that it means more.

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+1. IMO, if you truly consider yourself a title contender, you want to beat the best.

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Like getting swept by the Suns:lmao

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Your team was ousted by a team that was swept by the Suns...


:lmao :lmao

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I guess I am crazy, but I feel like that is a pretty horrible attitude for a team that wants to win a championship to carry into the post season.

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Not if you are one of the top 3 teams that have a shot to win the west

Agree with OP. Not looking forward to seeing Chandler pwn our frontcourt tbh.

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I don't see how that makes a difference.

You be trippin if you think we can't take on LA, even last year we could go with them.
They may have the timber but who's going to run with TP....way to quick for the fish.
I think we match up with them pretty well and can beat them easier than Dallas

i actually agree with this. i just hope the spurs don't do the lakers a favor and knock out dallas for them.

LA has had EZ playoff matchups because of their seeding, time for the spurs to do the same.

The only reason I'd like the mavs to face the lakers during the PO is that we won't have to face one of them...

The only thing I fear against the lakers is the refering

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You be trippin if you think we can't take on LA, even last year we could go with them.
They may have the timber but who's going to run with TP....way to quick for the fish.
I think we match up with them pretty well and can beat them easier than Dallas

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This.

I don't think either team can beat the spurs in a series this year---but I think the spurs would have a harder time with the mavs.

I think we have a descent chance to beat la, considering how lakers have played this year, but our chances for championship are increased if mavs and lakers face of first.

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Originally Posted by BUMP.

I'm not talking shit, but there's just absolutely no way the Spurs can match up with LA's frontcourt. Who guards Odom? Who guards Gasol? Who guards Bynum?

GNSF can throw around all the Mavs choking references they want to, but it still won't change the fact that they'll need Dallas to beat LA for them since they are better equipped

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Jefferson guards Odom, Duncan takes Gasol, Blair takes Artest, Gino takes Bryant and Parker takes Blake.

See, not so hard. Obviously, it will take a concerted effort to guard Gasol and Bryant but it can be done.

I said it last year and I'll say it again. I would want to see us take on both the Mavs and the Lakers. It doesn't get more rewarding than that. Spurs vs Boston, Spurs defeat the last two defending Champs on the way to # 5.

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Originally Posted by BUMP.

Like getting swept by the Suns:lmao

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You forgot the part about it occurring after Dallas became the first 2 seed to be knocked off by a 7 seed......

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so getting the number one seed would be a good idea then

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I guess so.

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Originally Posted by BUMP.

Like getting swept by the Suns:lmao

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Yeah kinda like going 4-2 against an 8th seed. lol believe

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Originally Posted by BUMP.

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No-more like '09 mavs-failing 2 rise 2 the challenge against a "inferior" opponent!

:lol

go easy on me, guys. Like I said, for once I'm really not trying to troll. The getting swept by the Suns comment was directed at the guy who tried trolling me.

Either way I think Boston and LA are easily the favorites, with Dallas and SA a little behind them. I'm just saying that San Antonio's chances go up tremendously if La were to get knocked out, but I just can't see them being the ones that do it. LA's bigs are just way too much Dallas is the only team that matches up with that monster frontline.

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Jesus, I hope The Spurs aren't hoping they get to dodge somebody to win a championship.

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What? This is stupid logic. I'm sure the Spurs are hoping for the easiest possible path to the championship as all of their fans should be.

I'm not gonna lie, watching Golden State dismantle the Mavericks in the first round was great because it meant the Spurs didn't have to. Championships are hard and while winning with a tremendously tough path is obviously an amazing thing, just think back to 2008 when the Spurs had NOTHING in the tank after two very tough series.

If the Lakers continue to play like they've been playing they could get eliminated in the first round. I'm quite serious. I think there may be serious, serious problems on the Lakers right now, ones they're not talking about.

Mavs aren't unbeatable, but Dirk is a tough cover. Fortunately for anyone facing him he usually chokes in the playoffs.

I don't completely disagree. We'll see how the spurs match up against both the Lakers and Mavs next week. When all is said and done though I would rather take on OKC or Utah in the second round than the Mavs or the Lakers.

TIAGO MUST BE INTEGRATED!!!! I've lost hope on Blair becoming a force down low this season. *snif another season coming off the bench should still help him improve his game for next season.

If the Spurs are healthy, they can beat the Lakers and/or the Mavs in the playoffs. Not saying they will beat them, but they can beat them. The Lakers and Mavs are very good, but not invincible.

That said, it would be easier for the Spurs if the Lakers and Mavs met early on, so one of them got knocked out of the playoffs.

If the Spurs get that #1 seed, they're going to the Finals, IMHO.

I want to see a Spurs-Celtics Finals. That would be epic!

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Who guards Odom? Who guards Gasol? Who guards Bynum?

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I'd like to see Tiago and maybe Bonner guard Odom.

Duncan, Dyess, and Tiago can also tag team Gasol.

Pop can use a chair to guard Bynum since Bynum will probably be in street clothes with another injury.

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What? This is stupid logic. I'm sure the Spurs are hoping for the easiest possible path to the championship as all of their fans should be.

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No. You just don't understand what I am saying. You can "hope" for an easy path I guess, but it's not something you can rely on. The Spurs have to be prepared for a long, tough road in the playoffs. If they aren't ready for every team, they are going to be in big trouble.
I said I would be happy with a win anyway they can get it, but hoping to dodge certain teams is a loser's attitude.

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No. You just don't understand what I am saying. You can "hope" for an easy path I guess, but it's not something you can rely on. The Spurs have to be prepared for a long, tough road in the playoffs. If they aren't ready for every team, they are going to be in big trouble.
I said I would be happy with a win anyway they can get it, but hoping to dodge certain teams is a loser's attitude.

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Obviously they should be prepared. But you have to be retarded to think San Antonio wouldn't be happy to see the Lakers get knocked out to make their lives easier in the playoffs.

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Obviously they should be prepared. But you have to be retarded to think San Antonio wouldn't be happy to see the Lakers get knocked out to make their lives easier in the playoffs.

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Of course they would be happy . . . where did I say they wouldn't be happy?

Lets face it Mavs taking out LA would be cool but in the playoffs better yet round two we all know that is not going to happen! LA is to mentally tough in the playoffs for Dallas, period. Spurs might not beat either for all I know, but LA is not going to lose to Dallas.

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If the Spurs are healthy, they can beat the Lakers and/or the Mavs in the playoffs. Not saying they will beat them, but they can beat them. The Lakers and Mavs are very good, but not invincible.

That said, it would be easier for the Spurs if the Lakers and Mavs met early on, so one of them got knocked out of the playoffs.

If the Spurs get that #1 seed, they're going to the Finals, IMHO.

I want to see a Spurs-Celtics Finals. That would be epic!

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I have been waiting for years for that finals matchup, since 08.........

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Originally Posted by Sean Cagney

LA is to mentally tough in the playoffs for Dallas, period.

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Like the Spurs in 06?

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I want to see a Spurs-Celtics Finals. That would be epic!

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If the Spurs were to smash the Lakers threepeat march and upend the Celtics...well, where do you go from there? I might just retire as a Spurs fan :)
Really, if the Spurs killed Kobe and Garnett, how do you top that?
Perchance to dream.

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Like the Spurs in 06?

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That was an epic battle there, could have went either way. Dallas is not going to beat LA IMO and they haven't done a thing in the playoffs since 06 pretty much so whats the point there arguing it? They have to actually win to talk about beating LA in the playoffs.

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Like the Spurs in 06?

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https://www.student.gsu.edu/~nnelson3/miami%20heatc.jpg

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If the Spurs were to smash the Lakers threepeat march and upend the Celtics...well, where do you go from there? I might just retire as a Spurs fan :)
Really, if the Spurs killed Kobe and Garnett, how do you top that?
Perchance to dream.

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Finally repeat in 2012??? :hat

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finally repeat in 2012??? :hat

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Nobody matches up with LA's frontline, and nobody matches up with Kobe - that's why I'd be shocked if they don't cruise to another title this year.

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Spurs are good enough to hang..I mean sure the Lakers are playing pretty shitty right now..and perhaps the playoffs will be different..but every team has a chance..Spurs this season aren't the same team from last. Lakers vs Spurs in the playoffs would be pretty awesome.:toast

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If the Spurs were to smash the Lakers threepeat march and upend the Celtics...well, where do you go from there? I might just retire as a Spurs fan :)
Really, if the Spurs killed Kobe and Garnett, how do you top that?
Perchance to dream.

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+1! And to top it off, how about Duncan accidently elbowing KG in the mouth on his way to throwing one down on him in a game 7 blowout win for the Spurs?

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God you're dumb. You do realize the Spurs beat the Mavericks in the series prior?

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Dallas will have to knock off LA. The Mavs with Haywood, Chandler, and Dirk are the only team equipped to handle the frontcourt that LA posesses. I think SA can beat Dallas head to head but I think the Spurs have no shot against LA with the decline of Duncan.

This isn't a troll thread since I still think the Spurs can win it all, but the only way I can see it happening is in this format.

Spurs get the 1, Dal/LA gets the 2/3, then Dallas knocks off LA, Spurs knock off Dal, Spurs play a hell of a series against Boston or Miami

Feel free to disagree, but I think that's SA's only shot

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the spurts arent winning squat!

The Spurs can beat ANY team in a 7 game playoff series. They are playing as an unselfish unit. Any given player can pop off for double digit scoring at any given time.
Defensively that makes things extremely hard for opposing coaches to zero in on somebody and defend aganist them....now if only they upped their defense I'd almost guarantee they'd beat the Lakers.

We have a shot at the lakers if we face them at the play offs but its only slim chances I'll gow with mavs vs lakers im sure thats a hell of a match up and then if we get lucky we face the mavs

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Odom - that's one guy Matt Bonner could probably defend since he has both the quickness and height. If LA uses their big lineup we MIGHT see him at SF a lot since we can't have 3 non-shooter bigs on the floor. It just scares me to think what Odom would do to RJ, Anderson or Neal.

Gasol - Tim Duncan, Antonio McDyess...'nuff said. Each of them can shut any one of them down, except for perhaps the super-quick Odom.

Bynum - If LA uses their big lineup we should most definitely use McDyess and Tim on the court at the same time. In addition we'll most likely have to give Tiago 10-15 minutes to defend that position. Blair shouldn't see the court at all except in garbage time if there's any garbage time at all.

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I don't know if anybody remembered, but the last time we faced the Lakers, maybe March of 2010, POP used RJ on Odom it surprisingly, it was very effective.

RJ has the size and quickness to negate some of Odom's advantages. RJ is actually a pretty big SF himself. Both Odom and RJ have the same weight at 230 BTW.

That was the stretch of games when Manu simply turned into super Manu. If I remember it correctly, we beat the Lakers in their home turf in that game.