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What, and I missed it?!? http://spurstalk.com/forums/images/s...mirolleyes.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Ishta
And I hope the Suns become the first team in NBA history to come back being down 0-3.
Everybody will have time to get ready for the Finals. The NBA wants to milk it as long as possible. A sweep may be bad for the Spurs if the east goes a full seven. Rest is nice, but at this pace a week+ off can be even worse. I hate how long the NBA playoffs are...thank you TV contracts!
He's not in a system that teaches or emphasizes D. Unless the Suns revamp their system, he won't become a good defender anytime soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by mavsfan1000
He had an awesome offensive fourth quarter though.
And I hope to win the lotto.Quote:
Originally Posted by Catharsis
That's probably going to happen before the Suns comeback from 3-0.
:rolleyes Actually I think I vaguely recall in post game that Tim said something to the effect that a couple of guys are banged up and the rest might do them some good...I guess i was imagining things....Sure 8-10 days might be a little long, but i would much rather go into the finals as close to 100% healthy as possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Catharsis
Look, he's only 22. If he did it the right way, he'd be in this year's draft. His defense isn't really that bad, it's just not to the level of Duncan or Garnett. The part that makes him look bad, however, is the system. D'Antoni has engrained in Amare that he can outrun any center in the league--which is why he wanted him to play center. That depends on a lot of fast breaks with Amare running down the court off the rebound. You can't beat your defender if you're the one getting the rebound or making the stop. D'Antoni also hates committing fouls. He'd rather give open shots and not foul then stopping the game and giving free throws. I think the system does more to hinder Stoudemire's defense than what he is doing himself. The real thing Amare needs to work on is setting screens and passing the ball. He should be a triple double threat every night with the offense they have. Once the Suns get a formidable big man to play with Amare (Hunter doesn't cut it), it will allow the Suns to play more of a half court game. But they played this system because it works with what they got.
And that is my point. Thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
Come on, last year's Red Sox are the only thing keeping me from depression at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by BadlyDrawnBoy
Rest is always nice, but I think the Spurs REALLY need there to be a game five. It will give them plenty of rest, but not too much were they open the Finals flat, PLUS it gives the Suns one last game of revenue. We've been in the red the last couple years and need to re-sign Joe Johnson. Can you throw us a bone?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ishta
BASEBALL is very different from... basketball.Quote:
Originally Posted by Catharsis
Not just spelling wise.
What about a threesome with the Olsen twins?Quote:
Originally Posted by BadlyDrawnBoy
Well, I have to give you credit for being such a true fan to your team. By the way I am not being a sarcastic bitch right now.. Even though your team is practically dead you still type on.....as for me, i need to go to bed now, so I can go to the lake bright and fucking early.............That is if it stops raining sometime soon:spinQuote:
Originally Posted by Catharsis
Rain, what's that? Forgive me, I'm from AZ.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ishta
It's something that doesn't go well with Sand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Catharsis
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Originally Posted by BadlyDrawnBoy
After SA sweeps Phoenix, Nash and Dirk will go on a date at Wimbledon and spill dirty secrets and promises that will be eventually broken.
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That remains to be seen. Remember - Minnesota won the most games in the West last season, and didn't even make the playoffs this year. They still had a lot of the same players; it was the personalities that poisoned their results. Team chemistry is important to any team, but maybe more so to Phoenix because that offense really needs to mesh well to work. I heard some of Amare's comments about Nash winning the MVP award. I wonder how Amare is going to feel next season, knowing that he is making $2.5 Million, while Nash is Making $9.5 Million, and Shawn Marion is making $12.5 million. Some players would be satisfied knowing that their time for the big payday will come soon enough. I don't think Amare is one of those kinds of players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Catharsis
And there are going to be some contract issues in the next couple of years. The Suns found the perfect blend for their run-and-gun offense this season. There is a very real possibility that they will never again have the kind of year that they had this year.
Without all the 3 pointers raining in this year, the Suns would not have won nearly as many games, and Amare would not be nearly as open around the basket. There isn't any kind of guarantee that they can duplicate that next season.
Joe Johnson was about a .320 shooter from the 3-point line until this year, when he shot .478. I'm not sure he shoots 3's any better than that in practice, completely unguarded. We'll see if he can follow up next season, or if he was just in the zone this year.
Jim Jackson will turn 35 this year. He shot .459 from the 3-point line after coming to the Suns, even though he is a career .360 shooter from beyond the arc. This was an exceptional year for him - and he probably does not have too many more of those left.
The Suns' players have all had career seasons this year, and ran the run-and-gun offense about as well as it could be done. Even so, there was a case to be made at the end of the year that you can't win a championship without defense. But if the Suns slow down to play defense, I guarantee you the players will never shine the way they did this year. And if the (new?) guys aren't hitting 3-pointers at a record pace, the other teams are going to be able to sag on Amare a lot more.
Who knows? Maybe the Suns will be contenders for several years to come. But I wouldn't start talking "dynasty" just yet.
It's simple.Quote:
Originally Posted by GSH
It's called overachieving.
I tend to agree with Catharsis. I think the Suns would kick Detroit's ass off the court...in fact I watched the Suns do just that late in the season.
Contrary to what the Pistons' like to claim...they can't run, they are too slow to do it, and they don't have any great finishers other than Prince(and maybe Rasheed).
They got their asses kicked off the court by just about every "healthy" running team they played this season...
OTOH...I think they might just be the best half court OFFENSIVE team in the NBA, their offense is so decentralized it's very hard to predict where it is going to come from....and their money scoring comes from the hardest area on the court to defend in the half court set. But they still couldn't stop the Phoenix running game in the game I watched...and they were trying very hard to do so...
Phoenix just bitch slapped them in the final moments of the game...and left them standing there holding their asses with a funny looking expression on their faces.
The Pistons have two very blatant weaknesses(Pistons still in 6 though)...they are not a fast team, and they have absolutely no post scoring presence...Period. I'd say that their frontcourt is kind of small too, cept for Sheed...but it doesn't matter because of the types of games Billups and Hamilton have...they still get their bigs plenty of shots...and those guys are totally comfortable scoring out on the perimeter or from midrange...
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Originally Posted by T Park
I told you this was going to happen. Specially from a guy who can't comprehend what you write.
As I said before, this is a war. No time for compassion. Wait until we blow them out and then send first aid and a fruit basket if you like. = )
I do agree that the Suns are the classiest team we have seen in the play offs so far. I wish them no ill, after we cream them that is. = )
"62 games is not a fluke--it's a beginning for the youngest team in the NBA."
Last night was a blowout, except for Amare's 4th qtr points. The best road team in the NBA met the best team in the NBA, and got thoroughly whipped, AGAIN @SBC.
Mission-critical Nash was missing 10+ ASTs.
Suns were 10+ 3G attempts below their avg, neutralizing that "fun for fans" basis of their offense.
Suns, who "don't foul", fouled 30 times.
Suns were -14 in RBs.
The Spurs were prepared excellently for the high pnr, which was non-factor, instead of being their bread and butter.
The Suns were totally taken out of their game, and JJ was the inconsequential non-factor that many predicted.
The bigget problem for the Suns is .... the Spurs, aka nemesis, PERENNIALLY,
who have a more complete, more versatile team,
play the game at league-best level on both ends of the court,
have a better coach and system,
have the required dominant big man, and
have 4 or 5 more solid years of the today's core rotation.
Don't think the Spurs are a fixed target. Next season, Nazr will be better integrated into the Spurs system, Beno will be out of his rookie year, and who knows what the off-season will bring from the Spurs' excellent scouting system.
The Spurs present a huge hump for the Suns to get over.
I am a "weak" Spurs fan, and I would feel sorry for them too--except for Amare. I even forgive the chicken thing, but the pushups, the stare downs, the smirk--during the Dallas series, though Spurs haven't given him much of an opportunity to smirk--I can never forget or forgive. He is nothing but a punk--a talented punk, but a punk nonetheless. I wonder how many of D'Antoni's post-game comments about "trying to prove our manhood instead of playing basketball" were directed at Stoudemire.
And before we hear the excuse "he's only 22"--Tony Parker doesn't act like that.
I hope we go out and step on them early and hard in Game 4. Amare--Game 4's for you. Asshole.
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Originally Posted by foodie2
Amen. I just wish they would all make it easier for me to hate them. Now worries about next series, I know big ben and Rasheed are going to be thugs, and I already hate Shaq in the playoffs way to much to give a fuck how bad they lose, but these Suns.... they haven't made me hate them.
And Angel....wow never knew you had it in you.
Smeagol were you saying that you, or T Park couldn't understand what I wrote. (And at this point for all the people out there who didn't get what I was saying, I will gladly eat crow if it means a championship parade)
And as for the Spurs retooling this draft please read my sig and the aatched hyper-link of a scounting report.
After sleeping on this...I still don't feel sorry for the suns..On MEMORIAL DAY, the Spurs need to just beat them to death.....:angel :angel :angel :angel
I have great respect for Nash. He's been nothing but class, Spuresque in his atttitude (not his defense).
It wil be interesting to see how the Suns respond to this WCF experience next year. Will Amare committ to improving his defense the way he did to improving his offense this past off season? Is he capable of reading and understanding playing good D or is he just 90% athleticism?
Will D'Antoni learn that he has to emphasize D and diversfy his offense, use the regular season as a caldron to play and practice different styles not just a one dimensional every day, every play run and gun approach?
Will the Suns tinker with their personell a bit and add a piece or pieces to make them a little more versatile and tough?