Mental errors and poor judgment

you guys act like the teams we had in the past were perfect. we have four banners won by teams that fucked up constantly:

1999- People thought we would choke in the playoffs like always. I remember game 2 vs. Minnesota and game 2 vs. Portland and thinking, "aww fuck here we go again."

2003- This team gave up 20 point leads fucking constantly. Esp that bullshit shot by Marbury in game 1 of the first round...the Dallas game where they were 49 of 50 from the line or some fucking bullshit. Game 6 vs. Dallas when they had us down 20 points in the 2nd half. We'll never win with this Euro dumbfuck Ginobili turning the ball over constantly...

2005- This team didn't have the toughness to beat the mighty Detroit Pistons. Esp the way they took our lunch money in games 3 and 4. Pop on the bench patting Tim's knee....AWW FUCK IT'S OVER DOOOOMMMZZ.

2007- There was no fucking way we were going to beat Dallas in the playoffs with our old and shitty roster. Dirk fucking owned us that year...yikes, Devin Harris! what will we do???

Currently we have the best record in the league and a hell of a shot at 1) getting HCA throughout 2) beating LA in the playoffs 3) facing an old Boston team or a not-quite-there-yet Miami team.

Please chill the fuck out until further notice...

Nice post, ChillFactor. I was going to say something similar but will take a different tack.

It sounds trite, but we're 31-6 and that indicates to me that we're making fewer mental errors than our opponents... in fact, a lot fewer.

Sure, mistakes are being made, but I challenge you to watch other teams and count the number of mental errors they make. It is easy to nit-pick when you're only intent upon the object of your desire.

That being said, is this team complete or yet playing at a Championship level? No sirree. The D has a way to go to be elite, although we've already seen the elite-level defense this team is capable of at times, especially down the stretch. And, yes, the offensive decision-making also has some way to go.

However, I'm glad we're not championship-ready yet because if we were we would have peaked too early. It is simply not possible for most teams to hit their Championship level and maintain it for half the regular season plus playoffs. That's what SPAM is about, Peaking After March.

The thing we should be thankful for is that this team looks capable of a strong SPAM, and in that case can probably contend. Last year's team never even looking like SPAMing.

Finally, I would note that we've been in a bit of a slump since the LAL-DAL-OKC-WAS victories, and quite frankly, we were due one. The team will break through this funk soon enough and start clicking again, and I think that when they do we'll see them jump another gear, into 3rd. We'll find 4th in SPAM, 5th in the early rounds of the playoffs, and if everything comes together, 6th in the Finals. ;)

The road to a trophy is a delicate balance, but at least this team looks to have a shot at it.

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Originally Posted by DMC

Blair showed up for training camp. Blair practiced all Summer and played in the Summer games. Tiago was busy modeling underwear, or playing for that fag team he played for.

Speaking of fag teams, how faggish is "Kinder Bologna"? A more friendly sausage... great.

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Homophobic slurs against our players. :rolleyes

...and then ignorant dismissal of anything foreign. Charming. :nope

That, ladies and gentlemen, is an example of what the rest of the world hates about America.

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Originally Posted by RuffnReadyOzStyle

Homophobic slurs against our players. :rolleyes

...and then ignorant dismissal of anything foreign. Charming. :nope

That, ladies and gentlemen, is an example of what the rest of the world hates about America.

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:lol Because only America is racist and homophobic? I take it you have never traveled Europe.

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

:lol Because only America is racist and homophobic? I take it you have never traveled Europe.

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No, I've traveled Europe, and I'm aware that the whole world is racist and homophobic. However, I have seen ignorant Americans making fun of things they don't understand far more than I have people of other races. For example, the prcatice of many Americans to mangle a foreign name and then dismissively say "whatever" and continue to mock said name (all because they are embarrassed by their ignorance deep down) is commonplace, and it shits me to tears. Show a little fucking respect. We all get things wrong and misunderstand things from toher cultures, but mockery does not have to accompany ignorance.

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

:lol Because only America is racist and homophobic? I take it you have never traveled Europe.

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spain is more racism-minded than any country imho. Athletico Bilbao consists of only local players who were all brown and grew up in Basque.

BTW, my comment was centred on the ignorant comment, not the homophobia. Homophobia is endemic worldwide, especially on sports message boards. :lol

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Originally Posted by frodo

spain is more racism-minded than any country imho. Athletico Bilbao consists of only local players who were all brown and grew up in Basque.

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Read what I said. I am not talking about racism. I am talking about mocking what you don't understand, which is a subtly different thing, and goes hand-in-hand with anti-intellectualism (ie. mocking those who do understand things that you don't understand).

All racists certainly mock what they don't understand (ie. other races/cultures), but all of those who mock what they don't understand aren't necessarily racists.

In other news, it looks like the Rockets are going to beat the Celts at home! :wow

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Originally Posted by RuffnReadyOzStyle

No, I've traveled Europe, and I'm aware that the whole world is racist and homophobic. However, I have seen ignorant Americans making fun of things they don't understand far more than I have people of other races. For example, the prcatice of many Americans to mangle a foreign name and then dismissively say "whatever" and continue to mock said name (all because they are embarrassed by their ignorance deep down) is commonplace, and it shits me to tears. Show a little fucking respect. We all get things wrong and misunderstand things from toher cultures, but mockery does not have to accompany ignorance.

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america is an immigrant country with an immigrant population of nearly 100m, and that doesn't include those born in america to immigrant parents (like mono picklebreath brothers). those "arrogant" americans you've met are more likely to be immigrants rather than "real americans" tbh. immigrants are prolific like rats

their procreation/proliferation has been just uncontrollable tbh.

Well we can all agree that mocking something you don't understand is a mental error and racism shows poor judgment.

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Originally Posted by frodo

america is an immigrant country with an immigrant population of nearly 100m, and that doesn't include those born in america to immigrant parents (like mono picklebreath brothers). those "arrogant" americans you've met are more likely to be immigrants rather than "real americans" tbh. immigrants are prolific like rats

their procreation/proliferation has been just uncontrollable tbh.

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I never used the word "arrogant", I said "ignorant". Very different words. You really need to work on your reading comprehension and stop imagining what I said.

I have a broad experience of wonderful and horrible people from many countries, but I find Americans (in general, of course, certainly many aren't) to be the most dismissive of things they don't understand and won't even try to understand because of their firm belief in the superiority of their nation over all others.

As for your ideas about your "immigrant nation", you have no idea what you're saying, do you? You think Caucasians spontaneously arose in North America? You're all immigrants except the First Nations, just as 21.75mil of Australia's 22mil are immigrants (all but the Aborigines). Also, the largest proportion of the US population is Caucasian, so Caucasians too "breed like rats". Check your head, kid, because you got some messed up notions in there. It ain't a case of US vs THEM. Humans are humans, and in general we all behave in pretty much the same way. Birth rates have far more to do with level of education and wealth than anything else (ie the richer and more educated a nation, the lower its birthrate in ganeral).

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

Well we can all agree that mocking something you don't understand is a mental error and racism shows poor judgment.

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...and that pointing out DMC's mental error and poor judgement was a mental error and a porr judgement on my part! :lmao ;)

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Originally Posted by RuffnReadyOzStyle

I never used the word "arrogant", I said "ignorant". Very different words. You really need to work on your reading comprehension and stop imagining what I said.

I have a broad experience of wonderful and horrible people from many countries, but I find Americans too be the most dismissive of things they don't understand and won't even try to understand because of their firm belief in the superiority of their nation over all others.

As for your ideas about your "immigrant nation", you have no idea what you're saying, do you? You think Caucasians spontaneously arose in North America? You're all immigrants except the First Nations, just as 21.75mil of Australia's 22mil are immigrants (all but the Aborigines). Also, the largest proportion of the US population is Caucasian, so Caucasians too "breed like rats". Check your head, kid, because you got some messed up notions in there. It ain't a case of US vs THEM. Humans are humans, and in general we all behave in pretty much the same way. Birth rates have far more to do with level of education and wealth than anything else (ie the richer and more educated a nation, the lower its birthrate in ganeral).

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those who moved to america in the 70s last century shouldn't be equated to the earliest european settlers, just saying. Maoris were the only residents in australia when james cooke discovered that island, it was not until then that australia started urbanizing and developing. australia was only a crude land back then tbh.

America was roughly the same figure when the Columbus crew first discovered this continent, imho. europeans settlers transformed the crude land into an industrial country.

however, america/australia were already developed countries in the 70s last century, when hoards of immigrants surged in for better living circumstances. immigrants only gnawed at the wealth of the countries which were already well developed

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Originally Posted by RuffnReadyOzStyle

Homophobic slurs against our players. :rolleyes

...and then ignorant dismissal of anything foreign. Charming. :nope

That, ladies and gentlemen, is an example of what the rest of the world hates about America.

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Go cry over a tube of Vagisil you faggot.

That's a prime example that this American don't give a fuck what you or the rest of the world think. We aren't here following some Aussie rugby team or dart competition.

Don't get me started on you wankers.

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

Well we can all agree that mocking something you don't understand is a mental error and racism shows poor judgment.

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No.

Mocking what you don't understand is fun. When you understand it, it's not fun anymore.

Why you take our fun and squoosh it like a bug, man?

Racism? Some of you have no idea what that means.

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Originally Posted by RuffnReadyOzStyle

I never used the word "arrogant", I said "ignorant". Very different words. You really need to work on your reading comprehension and stop imagining what I said.

I have a broad experience of wonderful and horrible people from many countries, but I find Americans (in general, of course, certainly many aren't) to be the most dismissive of things they don't understand and won't even try to understand because of their firm belief in the superiority of their nation over all others.

As for your ideas about your "immigrant nation", you have no idea what you're saying, do you? You think Caucasians spontaneously arose in North America? You're all immigrants except the First Nations, just as 21.75mil of Australia's 22mil are immigrants (all but the Aborigines). Also, the largest proportion of the US population is Caucasian, so Caucasians too "breed like rats". Check your head, kid, because you got some messed up notions in there. It ain't a case of US vs THEM. Humans are humans, and in general we all behave in pretty much the same way. Birth rates have far more to do with level of education and wealth than anything else (ie the richer and more educated a nation, the lower its birthrate in ganeral).

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RuffnReady sounds too fucking homosexual. If someone here said they were ruff and ready, there would be 200 threads with every video and photoshopped gay pic in the world about it in two hours.

Texas has a higher population than your country, dickhead.

You want separation, go to Finland. They openly proclaim the N word in restuarants. One old lady asked me "What did Obama do to become Nobel prize winner besides be "N". She said it loud and no one looked. She said then "I know you don't say that word in your country, but that's what he is".

I've been all around this globe for years, racism is alive and well everywhere, and the States just gets all the publicity.

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Originally Posted by TheChillFactor

you guys act like the teams we had in the past were perfect. we have four banners won by teams that fucked up constantly:

1999- People thought we would choke in the playoffs like always. I remember game 2 vs. Minnesota and game 2 vs. Portland and thinking, "aww fuck here we go again."

2003- This team gave up 20 point leads fucking constantly. Esp that bullshit shot by Marbury in game 1 of the first round...the Dallas game where they were 49 of 50 from the line or some fucking bullshit. Game 6 vs. Dallas when they had us down 20 points in the 2nd half. We'll never win with this Euro dumbfuck Ginobili turning the ball over constantly...

2005- This team didn't have the toughness to beat the mighty Detroit Pistons. Esp the way they took our lunch money in games 3 and 4. Pop on the bench patting Tim's knee....AWW FUCK IT'S OVER DOOOOMMMZZ.

2007- There was no fucking way we were going to beat Dallas in the playoffs with our old and shitty roster. Dirk fucking owned us that year...yikes, Devin Harris! what will we do???

Currently we have the best record in the league and a hell of a shot at 1) getting HCA throughout 2) beating LA in the playoffs 3) facing an old Boston team or a not-quite-there-yet Miami team.

Please chill the fuck out until further notice...

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You sir, are a great man. Chill there in your avatar was cool as shit too. No one cares, but him and I used to hang out. Now he's got more kids than Jerry.

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Originally Posted by frodo

those who moved to america in the 70s last century shouldn't be equated to the earliest european settlers, just saying. Maoris were the only residents in australia when james cooke discovered that island, it was not until then that australia started urbanizing and developing. australia was only a crude land back then tbh.

America was roughly the same figure when the Columbus crew first discovered this continent, imho. europeans settlers transformed the crude land into an industrial country.

however, america/australia were already developed countries in the 70s last century, when hoards of immigrants surged in for better living circumstances. immigrants only gnawed at the wealth of the countries which were already well developed

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Wrong in so many ways. Maoris were indigenous to NZ, Aborigines indigenous to Australia. Of course Australia "developed" after it was colonized by the British, just as the US did shortly beforehand. We are both recent immigrant nations derived mostly from the Brits (who are themselves mostly Germanic after said Germanic peoples slaughtered most of the true Celts). Your point? We all immigrants, and even if we're not, so what? You're saying a "true American" cannot have immigrated to the country recently - why, exactly? Surely the "truth" of one's nationhood lies in what one contributes, not how long one has been resident. And to pretend that recent immigrants don't work as hard or harder than people who have been in a country a few more generations is a media-created fantasy.

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Originally Posted by DMC

Go cry over a tube of Vagisil you faggot.

That's a prime example that this American don't give a fuck what you or the rest of the world think. We aren't here following some Aussie rugby team or dart competition.

Don't get me started on you wankers.

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Originally Posted by DMC

No.

Mocking what you don't understand is fun. When you understand it, it's not fun anymore.

Why you take our fun and squoosh it like a bug, man?

Racism? Some of you have no idea what that means.

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Originally Posted by DMC

RuffnReady sounds too fucking homosexual. If someone here said they were ruff and ready, there would be 200 threads with every video and photoshopped gay pic in the world about it in two hours.

Texas has a higher population than your country, dickhead.

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And the ape-like moron proves my point perfectly with his ignorant non-sequiturs and homophobic insults. Well done, sir. :toast

RuffnReady, did you know that you can become a moderator of this site? That's right, the ignore list feature allows you to have your own personalized/moderated view of the forum. I love it!

As it happens, when ignorance and hate gets challenged on internet forums, the result is most often even more ignorance and hate by the perpetrators and their little friends. Best to file them to your own personal ban list IMO.

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RuffnReady, did you know that you can become a moderator of this site? That's right, the ignore list feature allows you to have your own personalized/moderated view of the forum. I love it!

As it happens, when ignorance and hate gets challenged on internet forums, the result is most often even more ignorance and hate by the perpetrators and their little friends. Best to file them to your own personal ban list IMO.

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True. I just felt like having some fun.

Before the flamewar, here's what I actually posted on topic:

Nice post, ChillFactor. I was going to say something similar but will take a different tack.

It sounds trite, but we're 31-6 and that indicates to me that we're making fewer mental errors than our opponents... in fact, a lot fewer.

Sure, mistakes are being made, but I challenge you to watch other teams and count the number of mental errors they make. It is easy to nit-pick when you're only intent upon the object of your desire.

That being said, is this team complete or yet playing at a Championship level? No sirree. The D has a way to go to be elite, although we've already seen the elite-level defense this team is capable of at times, especially down the stretch. And, yes, the offensive decision-making also has some way to go.

However, I'm glad we're not championship-ready yet because if we were we would have peaked too early. It is simply not possible for most teams to hit their Championship level and maintain it for half the regular season plus playoffs. That's what SPAM is about, Peaking After March.

The thing we should be thankful for is that this team looks capable of a strong SPAM, and in that case can probably contend. Last year's team never even looked like SPAMing.

Finally, I would note that we've been in a bit of a slump since the LAL-DAL-OKC-WAS victories, and quite frankly, we were due one. The team will break through this funk soon enough and start clicking again, and I think that when they do we'll see them jump another gear, into 3rd. We'll find 4th in SPAM, 5th in the early rounds of the playoffs, and if everything comes together, 6th in the Finals.

The road to a trophy is a delicate balance, but at least this team looks to have a shot at it.

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Originally Posted by RuffnReadyOzStyle

Before the flamewar, here's what I actually posted on topic:

Nice post, ChillFactor. I was going to say something similar but will take a different tack.

It sounds trite, but we're 31-6 and that indicates to me that we're making fewer mental errors than our opponents... in fact, a lot fewer.

Sure, mistakes are being made, but I challenge you to watch other teams and count the number of mental errors they make. It is easy to nit-pick when you're only intent upon the object of your desire.

That being said, is this team complete or yet playing at a Championship level? No sirree. The D has a way to go to be elite, although we've already seen the elite-level defense this team is capable of at times, especially down the stretch. And, yes, the offensive decision-making also has some way to go.

However, I'm glad we're not championship-ready yet because if we were we would have peaked too early. It is simply not possible for most teams to hit their Championship level and maintain it for half the regular season plus playoffs. That's what SPAM is about, Peaking After March.

The thing we should be thankful for is that this team looks capable of a strong SPAM, and in that case can probably contend. Last year's team never even looked like SPAMing.

Finally, I would note that we've been in a bit of a slump since the LAL-DAL-OKC-WAS victories, and quite frankly, we were due one. The team will break through this funk soon enough and start clicking again, and I think that when they do we'll see them jump another gear, into 3rd. We'll find 4th in SPAM, 5th in the early rounds of the playoffs, and if everything comes together, 6th in the Finals.

The road to a trophy is a delicate balance, but at least this team looks to have a shot at it.

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I've been harping on this subject since early in the season. The problem is that a lot of the really egregious mental errors are coming from the vets. When I think of other championship teams, most have been groups that strive for, and expect, excellence. And they drill it into the rookies from the day they show up. I don't get that feeling out of this bunch. I know I'm getting a little tired of seeing Tim and Manu (in particular) barking at some of the other guys, in games where they have been very loose themselves, to say the least.

But whether this team operates like a machine or not, those mental errors often make most of the difference late in the playoffs. A lot of time the momentum swings on a few more unforced errors by one team. If the Spurs don't cut down on them now, they aren't going to do it in the post-season.

Some people may not think it's that important, but it's still probably my biggest concern for this team. I think they can overcome their limitations in the middle, and I think they can (and will) improve somewhat on the defensive end. But I think that 5-6 bonehead plays per game could be eliminated without expecting too much of anyone. And if they aren't eliminated, it will cost them trophy number five. This team isn't going to bulldoze through the playoffs. They are good but not that good. They are going to have to play smart. And right now they could stand to improve in that regard.

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I've been harping on this subject since early in the season. The problem is that a lot of the really egregious mental errors are coming from the vets. When I think of other championship teams, most have been groups that strive for, and expect, excellence. And they drill it into the rookies from the day they show up. I don't get that feeling out of this bunch. I know I'm getting a little tired of seeing Tim and Manu (in particular) barking at some of the other guys, in games where they have been very loose themselves, to say the least.

But whether this team operates like a machine or not, those mental errors often make most of the difference late in the playoffs. A lot of time the momentum swings on a few more unforced errors by one team. If the Spurs don't cut down on them now, they aren't going to do it in the post-season.

Some people may not think it's that important, but it's still probably my biggest concern for this team. I think they can overcome their limitations in the middle, and I think they can (and will) improve somewhat on the defensive end. But I think that 5-6 bonehead plays per game could be eliminated without expecting too much of anyone. And if they aren't eliminated, it will cost them trophy number five. This team isn't going to bulldoze through the playoffs. They are good but not that good. They are going to have to play smart. And right now they could stand to improve in that regard.

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Great post mate.

This is exactly what I am talking about. A lot these errors are coming from the vets. I recall past Championship teams made errors too, but the vets didn't usually make as many as the young guys on the team.

Manu has yelled a Dice a few times and then made the stupidest pass a few plays later.

It's all about the playoffs and like you said if they make these errors then we are screwed. We have a chance to win, but not if we keep making these mistakes. Gotta play a lot smarter than this because other teams have advantages against us and we can't simply out talent them to win. The only chance we got is if we play smart. We've got to start striving for excellence now and get that ingrained sooner rather than later.