since he was planning on attacking her since 2007
HELLO
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since he was planning on attacking her since 2007
HELLO
Did he attack her in 2007?
People are obsessed with Sarah Palin. That's about it.
blah ....wing-nuts will take her down before 2012 anyway because she can't win....
pitbull bitch has endlessly promoted herself (her only skill), and has been promoted by the tea baggers, as a lover and promoter of guns, gun violence, targeting/scoping political opponents, and murdering animals for fun, a trailer-park trash version of Michael Vick.
She part of the America that adores guns and gun violence, guns and (political) murder as The Final Solution to whatever you hate.
Yeah, it couldn't possibly be this fucking whack job that is responsible for this.Quote:
Originally Posted by boutons_deux
I bet you blame your parents for what a miserable person you are too.
This is the second time I've seen you misuse the term "murder."Quote:
Originally Posted by boutons_deux
People murder people.
Inanimate objects cannot murder people.
People cannot murder animals.
Inanimate objects cannot murder animals.
People murder people.
It's quite simple.
EDIT: Oh, and just to be sure, people cannot murder inanimate objects.
wtf do ppl keep on tuning into this clown?
The words "Sarah Palin" are the moonbat-signal for Dan and boutonski. If you ever want them around, just start a thread with her name in the title. They'll be there shortly.:lmao
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Originally Posted by redzero
This. The bitter people out there can't help but tie every single political happening to Palin.
We all hope she is the GOP stalwart in 2012.. In fact she would be a dream candidate for Obama..Quote:
Originally Posted by BlairForceDejuan
If he's the Dems' candidate.Quote:
Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro
He will be darrins...Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrinS
"tie every single political happening to Palin"
You Lie
Boner's bullshit bawling had nothing to with pitbull bitch, only with his own emotional instability.
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Originally Posted by boutons_deux
Believe it or not, his constant crying gets on my nerves too.
Three truths about this situation:
1. The guy who shot all those people is nutso; his violence and his choice of targets is not necessarily a direct response to the 'rhetorical violence' of the current political pundits in either party.
2. The rhetorical reliance on war imagery in current political debate cannot be helpful in any situation.
3. There are many victims from the Arizona tragedy. Sarah Palin is not one of them.Are you able to read the part that says "his violence and his choice of targets is not necessarily a direct resoponse to the 'rhetorical violence' of the current political pundits..."?
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Originally Posted by EVAY
This is a red herring.
How often are war metaphors used in sports?
how many athletes have been gunned down for people using them?Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrinS
Palin took a hit by just having her hitlist posted and seen by many who otherwise would not have seen it.Quote:
Originally Posted by EVAY
Zero, the same number of politicians that have been gunned down because of war metaphors?Quote:
Originally Posted by clambake
Daily Kos website had a very similar graphic -- they are also not to blame for this psycho.Quote:
Originally Posted by rascal
thats being debated. do you want to wait or would you prefer your current dog training?Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrinS
Is it now? By whom?Quote:
Originally Posted by clambake
fox newsQuote:
Originally Posted by TeyshaBlue
I'm not sure they're equipped to debate.Quote:
Originally Posted by clambake
i agree, but regardless of the subject matter, you know there's a debate every time they circle the wagons.Quote:
Originally Posted by TeyshaBlue
circle the wagons. (threw that in there for you texas folk)
Aww shucks.:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by clambake
It takes 2 to debate. Whose the other player?
darrinQuote:
Originally Posted by TeyshaBlue
Simple.Quote:
Originally Posted by ducks
It's always someone else's fault with the lefties.
As opposed to the "righties" who do what exactly???Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
The dems wheels fell of over a year ago. Some will grasp at anything to make the repugs look like, well Jared Lee Loughner. It's pathetic. I hope Barry stays true to himself and points even the slightest little finger in the repugs general direction that repugs or the tea party had anything to do what so ever with the shootings in his little speech tomorrow.
what will you do if he does? go cruising?Quote:
Originally Posted by jack sommerset
I am surprised at the rush to politicize what happaned in Arizona. It seemed to start as soon as the news broke Saturday.
I am a "lefty",and I am shocked at how fast pundits (on both sides) went right to who to blame. How does that help the situation? they got the guy who pulled the trigger. there is no evidance...NONE, that he was influeinced by Sara Palin (or anyone else in the media).
He is a nut job. His ramblings on you tube and things he said to his friends prove at least that much. People made up fake facebook pages to try to link him to Obama, the right wing pundits went into damage control mode, Sara Palins people took down the map with the crosshairs. Why? You did nothing wrong by voicing your opinions, and expressing your views. Stand by your message. Freedom of speech means just that, freedom of speech...I don't have to like it or agree with it, but it is your right to say it. I heard no one said "Hey Jared, go shoot the congressman" Even so, most adults can think for themselves. Dont blame a single lunatics actions on a party, group or polotician. It just makes you look foolish.
If there is a silver lining in this it is that both may sides may look for better ways to express their views. Tone down the rhetoric, so people don't take it so personally, and civil political discusions can begin once again.
But that doesn't mean that Sara Palin, or the "right" is to blame for this, hard for me to say, since I hate Sara Palin!! However, what has been done to her here has been unfair.
what has been done to her?
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Originally Posted by clambake
The media placed the blame at her feet, bloggers have said that she has blood on her hands. I disagree with that. She is a mother, and to blame her for actions of someone that resulted in the death of a child is unfair to her. To blame her for a political assasination attempt, because she uses sometimes irresponsible words is unfair to her.
Especially since all she does is read the scripts that are given to her.
Absolutely nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by clambake
That was my point in my earlier post. Sarah Palin is in no way a victim here, but Glenn Beck et.al. try to deflect the conversation away from their own rhetoric to claim that one of theirs is being 'victimized' by those who say that there is a correlation between violent rhetoric and what happened in Ariz.
Sarah Palin has played the victim card more frequently than most politicians not named Jesse Jackson.
And now she's getting Beck to do her whining for her.
There has been no proof that the rhetoric had anything to do with this attack. show me proof and maybe I will adjust my position
Yes the language from the right is inflamitory, beck and palin are guilty of that surely, but they did not put the gun in this kids hands, they did not send him to Rep Giffords event. I am sure Palin, Bck, Hannity, and Rush will play the victim card. They are on the defensive, the media is pointing a finger right at them, how would you react?
Zing!Quote:
Originally Posted by EVAY
http://www.playboy.com/articles/jess...son-interview/Quote:
The very next day, at a Chicago City Council meeting, Mayor Richard Daley read a eulogy that pledged a "commitment to the goals for which Dr. King stood." The Reverend Jackson had flown in from Memphis without sleep to attend the ceremony; he stood up in a sweater stained with Dr. King's blood and shouted to the assembled Chicago political establishment, "His blood is on the hands of you who would not have welcomed him here yesterday."
who cares if you adjust your position. you went on and on about free speech.Quote:
Originally Posted by jn77
damn bitch, pick a lane.
wow, picka lane, ok...
No proof she did anything wrong. respect her right to free speech, even if you don't like it.
If the evidance shows that he had her books, had an obsession with her, followed her on twitter and made statements mirroring Palins...I will probably merge into the other lane, where you are blaming her.
For now, bitch, I cannot place blame on her because I don't like what she says.
who gives a fuck.
If you don't give a fuck, don't join the discussion. Seems pretty simple to me.
true to himself jack? What in the hell are you talking about this time? I know jack you hate liars, blah,blah,blah..how did you feel when the GOP broke a promise already?:lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by jack sommerset
dumbass
Yes, true to himself. Never let a crisis go to waste, never stop blaming the the repugs for everything. You should know this by now but you are a giggly little faggot so it does not surprise me.Quote:
Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro
using targets in a targeting strategy is apparently poor strategyQuote:
Originally Posted by jack sommerset
With the unfortunate inclusion of "Behind Enemy Lines".Quote:
Originally Posted by Blake
He never said that but you're a dumbass so I'm not suprised you didn't know...Quote:
Originally Posted by jack sommerset
Misleading. We Democrats were obviously playing political darts..... Obviously.:wakeupQuote:
Originally Posted by jack sommerset
Nerf darts at that!Quote:
Originally Posted by Don'tCallMeBubbles
You can put someone's eye out with one of those.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don'tCallMeBubbles
:p:
Okay, I got nothing. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by TeyshaBlue
We probably could have used a better dartboard. I regret not going fluorescent and/or textured........
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Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro
His chief of staff sure did. The cat who speaks for barry. You know, that guy.
Barry has plenty of true to himself quotes you can youtube, faggot. Stuff like "ass kicking" "regugs are the enemy" "bring your guns" shit like that. Now go find a cock to suck on you little faggot.
I want to shoot somebody now, specifically from one of those states......Quote:
Originally Posted by ohmwrecker
Fortunately for you, Sarah Palin has convienently placed surveying symbols on a map so that you know exactly where that person is. If you need additional latitude and longitude, I'm sure she can accomodate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don'tCallMeBubbles
Good thing those cross hairs were placed on Gifford's location. Even though Loughner met Gifford in 2007--before all of this Sarah Palin nonsense even began--and held a grudge against her since, Jared waited until 2010 so he can see cross hairs pointing to Arizona.
That definitely helped him find Gifford.
You betcha. But I'll have to solicit her help another time - getting my gear together to go get my practice in at Target........Quote:
Originally Posted by coyotes_geek
I dunno.....I think I've used the term enemy when playing nerf darts or paintball.Quote:
Originally Posted by TeyshaBlue
I suddenly feel like taking up archery and taking back my government.Quote:
Originally Posted by jack sommerset
Great, now they will want to ban bows and arrows.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stringer_Bell
read he was ticked at her because she refused to answer his question at a meeting once
but lets blame palin
...yeah, he was stalking her...this was personal...the fact she was a Congresswoman, a pro-immigrant Congresswoman at that, had nothing to do with this...she was merely at the wrong place at the wrong time...she ignored him 7 years ago!Quote:
Originally Posted by ducks
See how stupid you sound?
That's pretty much what his friends are saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nbadan
It was 2007 and there was probably no rational answer he would have accepted to the insane question he asked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nbadan
Here, let me remove the quote code...
See how stupid you sound?
Hell, politics is full of martial terms. We have campaigns and the candidates vie for "battleground States."Quote:
Originally Posted by Blake
This whole narrative is fucked up from the get go. Thank God most Americans are seeing through it this time. I just hope this has eroded liberal capital that much more.
Maybe we'll have another shellacking in 2012.
Not to mention the transit and theodolite.Quote:
Originally Posted by jack sommerset
You can bet one thing, for sure. Every time Obama uses a martial term; "bringing a gun to a knife fight," "enemy," "hit back twice as hard," (after which SEIU goons almost beat Ken Gladney to death); or, the next time Rahm Emmanuel repeated jabs a steak knife into a table screaming opponents' names followed by "Dead!, Dead!, Dead!" or send paper-wrapped fished to people who have irked him, there will be a conservative right-wing blogger recording it and biding the time for when it is need to counter this silliness.
Yea, shellacking in 2012...because empty promises of fiscal responsbility in 2010 expanded conservative capital so much, right? Americans aren't seeing through anything, not because they are dumb, but because they are too apathetic to look into the cesspool of government and political rhetortic. It's a mess and this country is low on heroes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
I think Sarah Palin is as dumb as the next guy and I don't like her, but this has gone completely over the edge. That campaign map "targeting districts" has been ALL OVER CNN and MSNBC lately.
I mean really? That's supposed to be some kind of proof of anything? Watching the talking heads on MSNBC the last few days has been surreal.
Nobody is saying the map is making wingnuts shoot congresspersons, you retards. They are saying it's irresponsible words and imagery.
Sarah Palin is just really stupid. She is dangerous because she is stupid and powerful (popular amongst the ever growing throng of mental handicapped Americans).
Do you realize how stupid and afraid and paranoid you sound? "They're gon' take my guns! My freedom! Make me abort ma babies! Make me worship Allah!" Do ever wonder why people think you are all a bunch of nuts?
Some people did say that.Quote:
Originally Posted by ohmwrecker
http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/201...gislation.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by ohmwrecker
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Originally Posted by ohmwrecker
http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/news/...b-sites-bannedQuote:
"This is not a knee jerk reaction, Brady said. "This legislation makes it illegal to place crosshairs on a Congressman's district."
Do you ever pop off about stuff you don't know very much about?Quote:
Originally Posted by ohmwrecker
:lol A Republican supporting gun control. That's funny. Saving face tbh. Also, New York is a big gun control state and this proposal is far from restricting citizens from owning guns and using them properly and legally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winehole23
Sounds like a good idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winehole23
Occasionally . . . but you have proven nothing here. Also, why are you offended by what I said? Do you think you're nuts?Quote:
Originally Posted by Winehole23
I'm not offended. Your comment was obtuse, is all.
How so? Sarcastic, maybe . . . not obtuse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winehole23
You think need we government to police "extreme" political speech. Obviously.Quote:
Originally Posted by ohmwrcker
Both your main points were mistaken. People do blame Sarah Palin for influencing the shooter, and the fear of congressional overreaction seems to be well founded.Quote:
Originally Posted by ohmwrecker
I wouldn't go that far, honestly, but it is getting out of control considering the instability of the audience. Public officials and those running for public office should be held accountable for their irresponsibility.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winehole23
I there is a misunderstanding in context. I haven't seen anyone directly blame Palin for the shooting and I wouldn't condone that. She should be held accountable for putting forth an irresponsible campaign though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winehole23
Afraid of free speech? Grow a set or call 911.Quote:
Originally Posted by ohmwrecker
Held accountable how?Quote:
Originally Posted by ohmwrecker
Social disapprobation is one thing, strengthening the hand of government to quash political speech is another.
Grow a set? Grow up. It's not a free speech issue. I'm talking about inciting unstable people and doing it knowingly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winehole23
Campaign funding restrictions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winehole23
If restraining speech that "might incite unstable people" isn't a free speech issue, I don't know what is.Quote:
Originally Posted by ohmwrecker
Relates to this topic how?Quote:
Originally Posted by ohmwrecker
What doesn't incite unstable people?
One wonders.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlairForceDejuan
ohmwrecker: do you get MSNBC? they've been ready to string up Palin for days...right out of the gate. Straight up, directly, laying blame for this at her feet. Beck, Limbaugh too. it's been rediculous.
That doesn't mean people who know better should do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlairForceDejuan
To use the old example:
If someone shouts "Fire!" in a crowded theatre . . . the unstable will panic and knock people over to get out. A reasonable person will look for calmly, but quickly look for evidence of an actual fire and strategize the fastest, safest way out after establishing that there is indeed a fire.
I read. I don't watch TV news.Quote:
Originally Posted by BradLohaus
As a suitable form of making public servants more responsible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winehole23
So any speech a mentally unstable person might foreseeably take amiss, should be proscribed?Quote:
Originally Posted by ohmwrecker
How does it relate to speech that irresponsibly "incites" the mentally ill? It's not intuitively clear to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by ohmwrecker
Don't the voters sort this one out at the ballot box? Why do we need a federal remedy for loose cannons?
When you, as a speaker, are looking out onto a throng of rabid, hateful people holding signs depicting our president with a target on his head or a Hitler mustache scrawled on his upper lip with misspelled accusations of conflicting political ideologies on homemade signs . . . it might not be responsible to tell these people that the "other guy" wants to take away their guns and then draw them a map with target points on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winehole23
Is that clear enough?
You're inciting violence!:ihitQuote:
Originally Posted by Blake
signs didn't treat bush very well, either.
but then again, he manufactured reasons for war.
Well it's simple. Target the signs!:toastQuote:
Originally Posted by clambake
I don't recall any politicians subtly suggesting that Bush should be assassinated.Quote:
Originally Posted by clambake
what politicians have subtly suggested that obama be assassinated?Quote:
Originally Posted by ohmwrecker