i agree, but regardless of the subject matter, you know there's a debate every time they circle the wagons.Quote:
Originally Posted by TeyshaBlue
circle the wagons. (threw that in there for you texas folk)
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i agree, but regardless of the subject matter, you know there's a debate every time they circle the wagons.Quote:
Originally Posted by TeyshaBlue
circle the wagons. (threw that in there for you texas folk)
Aww shucks.:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by clambake
It takes 2 to debate. Whose the other player?
darrinQuote:
Originally Posted by TeyshaBlue
Simple.Quote:
Originally Posted by ducks
It's always someone else's fault with the lefties.
As opposed to the "righties" who do what exactly???Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
The dems wheels fell of over a year ago. Some will grasp at anything to make the repugs look like, well Jared Lee Loughner. It's pathetic. I hope Barry stays true to himself and points even the slightest little finger in the repugs general direction that repugs or the tea party had anything to do what so ever with the shootings in his little speech tomorrow.
what will you do if he does? go cruising?Quote:
Originally Posted by jack sommerset
I am surprised at the rush to politicize what happaned in Arizona. It seemed to start as soon as the news broke Saturday.
I am a "lefty",and I am shocked at how fast pundits (on both sides) went right to who to blame. How does that help the situation? they got the guy who pulled the trigger. there is no evidance...NONE, that he was influeinced by Sara Palin (or anyone else in the media).
He is a nut job. His ramblings on you tube and things he said to his friends prove at least that much. People made up fake facebook pages to try to link him to Obama, the right wing pundits went into damage control mode, Sara Palins people took down the map with the crosshairs. Why? You did nothing wrong by voicing your opinions, and expressing your views. Stand by your message. Freedom of speech means just that, freedom of speech...I don't have to like it or agree with it, but it is your right to say it. I heard no one said "Hey Jared, go shoot the congressman" Even so, most adults can think for themselves. Dont blame a single lunatics actions on a party, group or polotician. It just makes you look foolish.
If there is a silver lining in this it is that both may sides may look for better ways to express their views. Tone down the rhetoric, so people don't take it so personally, and civil political discusions can begin once again.
But that doesn't mean that Sara Palin, or the "right" is to blame for this, hard for me to say, since I hate Sara Palin!! However, what has been done to her here has been unfair.
what has been done to her?
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Originally Posted by clambake
The media placed the blame at her feet, bloggers have said that she has blood on her hands. I disagree with that. She is a mother, and to blame her for actions of someone that resulted in the death of a child is unfair to her. To blame her for a political assasination attempt, because she uses sometimes irresponsible words is unfair to her.
Especially since all she does is read the scripts that are given to her.
Absolutely nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by clambake
That was my point in my earlier post. Sarah Palin is in no way a victim here, but Glenn Beck et.al. try to deflect the conversation away from their own rhetoric to claim that one of theirs is being 'victimized' by those who say that there is a correlation between violent rhetoric and what happened in Ariz.
Sarah Palin has played the victim card more frequently than most politicians not named Jesse Jackson.
And now she's getting Beck to do her whining for her.
There has been no proof that the rhetoric had anything to do with this attack. show me proof and maybe I will adjust my position
Yes the language from the right is inflamitory, beck and palin are guilty of that surely, but they did not put the gun in this kids hands, they did not send him to Rep Giffords event. I am sure Palin, Bck, Hannity, and Rush will play the victim card. They are on the defensive, the media is pointing a finger right at them, how would you react?
Zing!Quote:
Originally Posted by EVAY
http://www.playboy.com/articles/jess...son-interview/Quote:
The very next day, at a Chicago City Council meeting, Mayor Richard Daley read a eulogy that pledged a "commitment to the goals for which Dr. King stood." The Reverend Jackson had flown in from Memphis without sleep to attend the ceremony; he stood up in a sweater stained with Dr. King's blood and shouted to the assembled Chicago political establishment, "His blood is on the hands of you who would not have welcomed him here yesterday."
who cares if you adjust your position. you went on and on about free speech.Quote:
Originally Posted by jn77
damn bitch, pick a lane.
wow, picka lane, ok...
No proof she did anything wrong. respect her right to free speech, even if you don't like it.
If the evidance shows that he had her books, had an obsession with her, followed her on twitter and made statements mirroring Palins...I will probably merge into the other lane, where you are blaming her.
For now, bitch, I cannot place blame on her because I don't like what she says.
who gives a fuck.
If you don't give a fuck, don't join the discussion. Seems pretty simple to me.
true to himself jack? What in the hell are you talking about this time? I know jack you hate liars, blah,blah,blah..how did you feel when the GOP broke a promise already?:lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by jack sommerset
dumbass
Yes, true to himself. Never let a crisis go to waste, never stop blaming the the repugs for everything. You should know this by now but you are a giggly little faggot so it does not surprise me.Quote:
Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro
using targets in a targeting strategy is apparently poor strategyQuote:
Originally Posted by jack sommerset