how can they blame the az shooting on palin

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

How does it relate to speech that irresponsibly "incites" the mentally ill? It's not intuitively clear to me.

Don't the voters sort this one out at the ballot box? Why do we need a federal remedy for loose cannons?

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You are missing the point here. I'm talking about holding politicians accountable. There's nothing that can be done about crazy people, but they shouldn't be encouraged.

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When you, as a speaker, are looking out onto a throng of rabid, hateful people holding signs depicting our president with a target on his head or a Hitler mustache scrawled on his upper lip with misspelled accusations of conflicting political ideologies on homemade signs . . . it might not be responsible to tell these people that the "other guy" wants to take away their guns and then draw them a map with target points on it.

Is that clear enough?

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Yes it is. The constitution protects speech of that sort.

What isn't clear about that?

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You are missing the point here. I'm talking about holding politicians accountable.

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For what crazy people do.

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I read. I don't watch TV news.

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:rolleyes

yeah we all read here I'm sure. But how else will you know what the masses are eating?

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Originally Posted by clambake

what politicians have subtly suggested that obama be assassinated?

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Do I have to go over this again?

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

For what crazy people do.

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No. For what they say. Now who's being obtuse?

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Originally Posted by BradLohaus

:rolleyes

yeah we all read here I'm sure. But how else will you know what the masses are eating?

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I read. I don't watch TV news.

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Do I have to go over this again?

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sorry if i missed the names of these politicians.

anyone else want to reveal their names?

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No. For what they say. Now who's being obtuse?

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Peas in a pod.

Absent violent conduct by the mentally insane, who's to determine which political speech is irresponsible and how?

Ohmwrecker makes me remember why I stopped posting regularly. Have fun getting owned by WH.

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Originally Posted by BradLohaus

Ohmwrecker makes me remember why I stopped posting regularly. Have fun getting owned by WH.

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I guess if by " getting owned" means arguing with someone who refuses to argue the point, then . . . guilty.

I am refusing to argue what, please?

(btw, you dodged a few questions yourself)

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

I am refusing to argue what, please?

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I'm talking about holding public servants accountable by restricting what they are concerned with (money & power) and you are talking about legislating insanity.

It's pretty pointless to continue.

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

I am refusing to argue what, please?

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OK. I'll play along . . . shoot.

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I'm talking about holding public servants accountable by restricting what they are concerned with (money & power) and you are talking about legislating insanity.

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You are talking about electoral reform.

Bullshit. You are talking about strengthening the hand of government to quash political speech based on your fear of what crazy people might do because of it.

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It's pretty pointless to continue.

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Wise decision.

Changing the subject obviously didn't work for you, and continuing the conversation would only expose more of your hare-brained thinking on the topic.

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

You are talking about electoral reform.

Bullshit. You are talking about strengthening the hand of government to quash political speech based on your fear of what crazy people might do because of it.

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I'm not afraid. Crazy people are going to do crazy things. That's obvious. Politicians should not be matching them card for card.

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Wise decision.

Changing the subject obviously didn't work for you, and continuing the conversation would only expose more of your hare-brained thinking on the topic.

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I changed the subject? You responded to me, bubba. I think I know what the subject is.

The subject is your sidebar on election reform?

lol

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The subject is your sidebar on election reform?

lol

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That was an answer to a non-topic related question that you asked.

The subject is:

(Are you ready?)

Should politicians and public servants be held accountable for irresponsible rhetoric and speech?

They are already held accountable by voters at the ballot box. Next.

Go ahead, why don't you tell us how politicians should be held responsible for incendiary political speech since that's what we're supposedly talking about now.

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They are already held accountable by voters at the ballot box. Next.

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Avoidance. Popularity contests and corporate sponsored campaigns is not the concern.

It's a simple question.

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Go ahead, why don't you tell us how politicians should be held responsible for incendiary political speech since that's what we're supposedly talking about now.

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Have you read the thread title?

^^^more dodging and weaving. I'm not surprised.

Im still waiting on a concrete premise from Ohmwrecker. This is turning Parkeresque.