There are those who claim political rhetoric is to blame for the despicable act of this deranged, apparently apolitical criminal. And they claim political debate has somehow gotten more heated just recently. But when was it less heated? Back in those “calm days” when political figures literally settled their differences with dueling pistols?
01-12-2011
ploto
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The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
01-12-2011
ploto
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Originally Posted by rjv
the tea party rhetoric, the reference to reagan, the over the top and misplaced religious tone....all suggest her hand at the pen to me.
You left out 911.
01-12-2011
LnGrrrR
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I actually thought it was pretty decent. The only tin-eared part was when she quoted Reagan. Sure, it was in context and all, but aren't Republicans aware that Reagan wasn't the only Republican president?
01-12-2011
rjv
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I actually thought it was pretty decent. The only tin-eared part was when she quoted Reagan. Sure, it was in context and all, but aren't Republicans aware that Reagan wasn't the only Republican president?
as in overall, pretty good ? while there were some obvious points here and there that were obviously on target did you think that the overall content and tone of the statement were decent as well ? that is, atypically palin ?
01-12-2011
BlairForceDejuan
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Having a person such as the lovely Sarah Palin making a public statement amidst a Presidential backdrop setting is very awkward, yet the news playing it on loop for the next 48 hours justifies it :lmao
01-12-2011
MannyIsGod
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Too stupid to write that, huh?
She's a public figure who relies on good PR. She would be stupid to write something like that herself. I don't think she's smart by any means, but I also don't think writing a letter like that takes more than a few brain cells. Thats not the point.
01-12-2011
ohmwrecker
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Originally Posted by ploto
You left out 911.
That was extremely manipulative in this context.
01-12-2011
Trainwreck2100
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Originally Posted by MannyIsGod
She's a public figure who relies on good PR. She would be stupid to write something like that herself. I don't think she's smart by any means, but I also don't think writing a letter like that takes more than a few brain cells. Thats not the point.
not to mention its been like 70+ hours since it happened, how many rewrites would there have been.
01-12-2011
Spurminator
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i absolutely think that she wrote it. it smacks of palinisms all over. the tea party rhetoric, the reference to reagan, the over the top and misplaced religious tone....all suggest her hand at the pen to me.
Palinisms are a creation of Palin's writers. She's been reading a script for the last two and a half years.
01-12-2011
boutons_deux
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Jewish Groups: ‘We Are Deeply Disturbed’ By Palin’s Use Of Anti-Semitic Term ‘Blood Libel,’ She Should Apologize
Instead of dialing down the rhetoric at this difficult moment, Sarah Palin chose to accuse others trying to sort out the meaning of this tragedy of somehow engaging in a “blood libel” against her and others. This is of course a particularly heinous term for American Jews, given that the repeated fiction of blood libels are directly responsible for the murder of so many Jews across centuries — and given that blood libels are so directly intertwined with deeply ingrained anti-Semitism around the globe, even today. [...]
All we had asked following this weekend’s tragedy was for prayers for the dead and wounded, and for all of us to take a step back and look inward to see how we can improve the tenor of our coarsening public debate. Sarah Palin’s invocation of a “blood libel” charge against her perceived enemies is hardly a step in the right direction.
Let us honor those precious lives cut short in Tucson by praying for them and their families and by cherishing their memories. Let us pray for the full recovery of the wounded. And let us pray for our country. In times like this we need God’s guidance and the peace He provides.
America must be stronger than the evil we saw displayed last week. We will come out of this stronger and more united in our desire to peacefully engage in the great debates of our time, to respectfully embrace our differences in a positive manner, and to unite in the knowledge that, though our ideas may be different, we must all strive for a better future for our country. May God bless America.
That's all she needed to say; and hopefully she'll take her own advice.
01-12-2011
Nbadan
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She's like Osama Bin Laden......
01-12-2011
Nbadan
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The Palin apology in context..
01-12-2011
Nbadan
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Palin logic..
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While lashing out at the idea that her "lock and load" rhetoric could contribute to any act of violence, Palin decried "irresponsible statements" and insisted that "each individual is accountable for his actions." She characterized critics of her as guilty of "a blood libel that serves only to incite the very hatred and violence that they purport to condemn." Again, I'm a bit slow here. But let me see if I understand this. Palin's words are obviously just words and could never ever influence anyone's actions. But the words of her critics are irresponsibly provocative and have the power "to incite hatred and violence"?
Blah blah blah... all this whining and pointing fingers about who called who a murderer is stupid. We will be at war soon enough and then all this will be moot.
01-12-2011
LnGrrrR
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Originally Posted by rjv
as in overall, pretty good ? while there were some obvious points here and there that were obviously on target did you think that the overall content and tone of the statement were decent as well ? that is, atypically palin ?
It didn't make me grimace or guffaw, so yes, I'd say it's atypical Palin. :lol
Was it poetic, stirring, moving? Eh, not really. And I thnk she would have been much better served if, instead of just blaming it on the gunman, she could've spoke about the political atmosphere at large, maybe suggesting we reflect on the tone of our political discourse.
Instead, she hand-waved it away with a Reagan quote. But the two can both be true; the gunman could be totally responsible for our actions, but we could still tone down the violence in rhetoric.
She could've then countered with the whole "Don't criminalize speech" point, but it would've sounded better coming from a "We don't need to criminalize it, we just need to be more responsible, more thoughtful" etc etc angle.
But she did at least point out how America's differences make it great, and there wasn't too much bashing of the other side. So, pretty decent.
01-12-2011
DJ Mbenga
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this was so carefully written how did the idiot writers mess up on a term that is offenseive to jewish people. hello the congresswoman that was shot is jewish! its like sarah palin has lebron james' PR team.
01-12-2011
MannyIsGod
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this was so carefully written how did the idiot writers mess up on a term that is offenseive to jewish people. Hello the congresswoman that was shot is jewish! its like sarah palin has lebron james' pr team.
lol
01-12-2011
PublicOption
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Self serving bullshit.
01-12-2011
DarrinS
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Originally Posted by DJ Mbenga
this was so carefully written how did the idiot writers mess up on a term that is offenseive to jewish people. hello the congresswoman that was shot is jewish! its like sarah palin has lebron james' PR team.
Meh, not so much.
01-12-2011
BlairForceDejuan
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Originally Posted by boutons_deux
Jewish Groups: ‘We Are Deeply Disturbed’ By Palin’s Use Of Anti-Semitic Term ‘Blood Libel,’ She Should Apologize
Instead of dialing down the rhetoric at this difficult moment, Sarah Palin chose to accuse others trying to sort out the meaning of this tragedy of somehow engaging in a “blood libel” against her and others. This is of course a particularly heinous term for American Jews, given that the repeated fiction of blood libels are directly responsible for the murder of so many Jews across centuries — and given that blood libels are so directly intertwined with deeply ingrained anti-Semitism around the globe, even today. [...]
All we had asked following this weekend’s tragedy was for prayers for the dead and wounded, and for all of us to take a step back and look inward to see how we can improve the tenor of our coarsening public debate. Sarah Palin’s invocation of a “blood libel” charge against her perceived enemies is hardly a step in the right direction.