Matt Bonner won us a game...

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Originally Posted by DesignatedT

Once again so you can comprehend. I never said Bonner was a better player or talent than Mcdyess.

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If you're telling me that Duncan is the best big on this team, and that Bonner is the second, then you're telling me that Matty has been better than Dice this season. That's simply baloney.

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Originally Posted by DesignatedT

Bonner has played a bigger role and has played better for us so far this season up to this point. If you argue that it's obvious you are just a hater. He has by far been our best overall big man outside of Duncan so far this season. Not saying he is a better play than Dice.

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No way. I guess I'm a hater.

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Originally Posted by DesignatedT

When I say crashing the boards, I mean I'm seeing him get into the paint and into the mix a lot more than I remember him doing. He is putting a body on someone and trying to get a rebound (crashing the boards) a lot harder. Obviously his rebounding #'s are about the same as they have always been but that effort alone causes a lot more 50/50 balls and team rebounds which the Spurs seem to get a lot of.

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I watch the same games and I see him fumbling balls and getting outrebounded by guards because he forgot to box out. Basically, the same as always (which coincidentally is reflected on the numbers).
I guess we get different broadcasts.

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Originally Posted by Mugen

i'm glad Matt is giving maximum effort even though opposing players are still routinely lighting him up on the defensive end.

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Red herrings aside, plenty of opponents have been lighting up all of the Spurs at the defensive end. That's why the scores are higher this year than in recent years past.

So here...

<((((((><

Here's your red herring back.

5 turnovers won us a game...

Spurs are 27-0 this season when their FG% is higher than their opponents.

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Originally Posted by Mugen

i'm glad Matt is giving maximum effort even though opposing players are still routinely lighting him up on the defensive end.

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That's not debatable. There's no questioning his drive and work rate.
He's just a limited player when it comes to defense.

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Originally Posted by ElNono

That's not debatable. There's no questioning his drive and work rate.
He's just a limited player when it comes to defense.

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my point exactly. he's a role player with an EXTREMELY limited skillset.

it's not his fault that his coach keeps trying to turn him into Robert Horry.

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Originally Posted by DMC

His number, or do you mean the jersey he personally owns, as in they are going to can his ass? LOL

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:lol


I meant his number and then enshrine the jersey of his very last game at the AT&T Center concourse. :king

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Originally Posted by ElNono

If you're telling me that Duncan is the best big on this team, and that Bonner is the second, then you're telling me that Matty has been better than Dice this season. That's simply baloney.

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Exactly what I am saying. It took you 5 times to figure it out. Bonner has been our 2nd best big man SO FAR this season.

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No way. I guess I'm a hater.

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We know.

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I watch the same games and I see him fumbling balls and getting outrebounded by guards because he forgot to box out. Basically, the same as always (which coincidentally is reflected on the numbers).
I guess we get different broadcasts.

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It's obvious Matt has put in work and effort into being a better defensive player and definitely a more conscious effort in hitting the glass.(Is he still an average defender? yes.) I'll call it blind hate with you. You just don't want to see it.

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Originally Posted by Mugen

Bonner was great tonight. But i'm pretty sure we'd have the same record without him.

I remember the Spurs being undefeated while he was out. Let's not overvalue his worth.

Props tho red rocket.

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:lol good one.
5-1 when the Bonbon was out.

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Originally Posted by EricB

So he gets 9 rebounds its no good cause the other guy had more?

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No. He was asking why I didn't say anything when he got 9 boards the other day. I didn't say anything because he got outscored and outrebounded by his matchup, which is par for the course for him.

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Originally Posted by Fabbs

:lol good one.
5-1 when the Bonbon was out.

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lol fuckin New Orleans.

Bonner would have certainly done an average job of defending David West once again leading us to victory.

this is what you get for starting a Bonner props thread, ElNono.

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Originally Posted by Mugen

lol fuckin New Orleans.

Bonner would have certainly done an average job of defending David West once again leading us to victory.

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I meant to add how Bonbon would have shut down West (In TParkles mind).

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Originally Posted by DesignatedT

Exactly what I am saying. It took you 5 times to figure it out. Bonner has been our 2nd best big man SO FAR this season.

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I figured you out the first time. I just thought you were kidding/trolling.
I can't take you seriously when you say something like that.

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Originally Posted by DesignatedT

It's obvious Matt has put in work and effort into being a better defensive player and definitely a more conscious effort in hitting the glass.(Is he still an average defender? yes.) I'll call it blind hate with you. You just don't want to see it.

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A lot of players put work and effort. That doesn't automatically make you a different/better player.

I don't hate Matty, BTW. I already had this back and forth with other people even in previous seasons (hello Mel!), and just like you, they thought I was hating, but I don't see that at all.

I simply understand that he's a very limited player and accept him like that. He's a hard working kid, not doubt.

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Originally Posted by Mugen

this is what you get for starting a Bonner props thread, ElNono.

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It's fine. Matty deserved it tonight.
It reminded me of his game against Boston last season.

With the emergence of Bonner, I just don't know how the Spurs got six losses.
Maybe stupid Pop didn't play him enough.

King Bonner! :king

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Originally Posted by ajballer4

His post-game interview was freaking hilarious

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Malik saying he ran down the court "gingerly" and not even knowing the pun, haha great stuff. Matt got it though.

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Originally Posted by yavozerb

Hate to break it to you, but bonner has won a mutiple games this season with his offense..

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Yeah, I was thinking that what he did tonight wasn't much different from last night.

1/11 16 pts 5-11 FGS 3-7 3GS 4rebs
1/12 17 pts 7-12 FGS 3-5 3GS 1 reb

Bonner was straight up ballin' tonight and even defending pretty well out there too. Props to him...:tu Now keep it up for the rest of the year....

:lol

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Originally Posted by DesignatedT

He's been the best big on this team besides Duncan. Hands down.

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This is pops thinking, this is why we will lose playoff time with him getting tons of mins and missing shots then.... He won't keep it up, come on man you know it! If he does I will cry! :lol

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Originally Posted by crc21209

Bonner was straight up ballin' tonight and even defending pretty well out there too. Props to him...:tu Now keep it up for the rest of the year....

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Come on, he won't later in the year and you know it! He will fade again, he will get minss still but suck when it really counts it's been proven. He is a spot player, he got mins tonight and he does this from time to time but sometimes he is just horrible on O and D.

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Originally Posted by Sean Cagney

:lol

This is pops thinking, this is why we will lose playoff time with him getting tons of mins and missing shots then.... He won't keep it up, come on man you know it! If he does I will cry! :lol

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Whether he keeps it up or not is a different question but for right now that's the case. We're not even half way through the season so plenty of time for him to falter.. if that ends up being the case.

Bonner's done this quite a few times before. People are very selective in their memory of his success. He's a guy who'll give you a double-figure scoring game out of every 4 or 5 games.

The next step for the Red Rocket is to come up big in some playoff games, and to show some consistent shooting and effort in the playoffs. To me, he looks a more confident player this year than last, and he's sure to play in the playoffs, so I'm really hoping he can hit some big shots, make some nice hustle plays, and give a big :flipoff to all the Spurs fans who hate him.

Didn't catch tonight's game but here are some thoughts. Bonner's has been relatively consistent all season. He plays the 2nd most minutes out of our big men so in a sense - he better be fucking be playing well. He's definitely shot the ball well and contributed to quite a few of our victories. It's great that Bonner is playing so well and it shows in our record. But... many are concerned with defense and fluke wins... I don't disagree with that notion. Bonner playing the 2nd most minutes out of all our bigs and are defense being shaky share a common ground.

The great thing about Bonner yesterday is He played a great 2nd half after playing horrible in the 1st.
And Dice is playing a very solid season. His J isn’t falling the last 3 or 4 games but his D and rebound has been outstanding the whole season

I'm pretty sure occasional regular season outbursts do not equate to retired jerseys. Maybe in Toronto and Dallas though... or Phoenix.