Malik said about Bonner after a three make "That's all he can do... I mean, he's working on other things, but that's all he can do is shoot the three". (paraphrasing)
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Malik said about Bonner after a three make "That's all he can do... I mean, he's working on other things, but that's all he can do is shoot the three". (paraphrasing)
yeah, I heard that. Malik is such a homer. :)
I wonder what Bonner's +/- stats would look like if the same calculation premise were done for rebounding....
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Originally Posted by DMC
Which is a bigger skill set than what Malik had.
Malik should in the mirror before saying other people were limited.
Bonner is our most valuable player behind the big 3.
Timmy's averaging career lows in several major statistics, Dyess MPG is low and we're 33-6. That tells me (and anyone objective) Bonner has had his fair share of game changing plays.
Bonner is better than Bogut...
They're about the same, tbh. Malik at his peak (02-03) gave us 10 and 6, while Matty's best (08/09) has been 8 and 5 (both in about 24 mins).Quote:
Originally Posted by EricB
Obviously, playoffs are a different story.
fify :kingQuote:
Originally Posted by Trill Clinton
Bogut, most definitelyQuote:
Originally Posted by FilSpursFan
Pau Gasol, you bet your ass :king
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Originally Posted by FilSpursFan
What a load of BULLSHIT. Bogut shits on Bonner.
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Originally Posted by ElNono
Bonner is a little more skilled basketball player on offense and basketball wise. Malik was a tweener who busted his ass and had great athleticism. Too bad Malik didn't have Matt's IQ, he would've been a damn good player longer.
How many 3s has Bogut hit this year? I rest my case.
I'm actually starting to like Bonner as a player.
I could see him contributing in the playoffs.
This is a cry for help. Please, somebody stop me . . .
It's not a linear ranking. Hill, Bonner, McDyess, and Neal all bring different capabilities to the table. Together they make a really good bench. And Popovich is really good about mixing and matching the combinations to match the game situation and the way each player is going that evening.
Specifically re the Bonner/McDyess comparisons: you really can't compare them, they are so different. Bonner is young, great 3 pt shooter from the kickout or spot-up, has a dribble drive, plays position/team defense and rebounding, and participates in the offense when they run the big man at the top of the key with either a pass to the wing or a dribble hand off (don't know what they call that series), and by stretching the floor by hanging out at the 3pt line. McDyess is old, is a pick&pop shooter, has no dribble drive at all, plays good individual defense, can block shots and sky for rebounds, and participates in the offense from a lower position. Both are valuable but in very different ways. Did you see at the end of the Milwaukee game how Pop subbed them offense/defense? That is the way to use them.
Bonner added some damn good moves to the 3 pointer. He now pump fakes and drives, hits floaters. If he could rebound better on D, he would be a great player.
Sometimes it is painful to watch his boxout.
It is interesting to see the improvement of Bonner honestly on both sides of the ball - he is still a limited player but is not as bad as many make him out to be.
An well written article suggesting Bonner's worth is at:
http://www.48minutesofhell.com/matt-...za-line-bonner
Even if it’s just for the regular season, Matt Bonner has the shooting touch to absorb minutes (an underrated skill) and the size to offer some resistance to power forwards. But expecting Bonner to guard the opposing team’s best big man or finding an offensive rhythm while the other team stays at home on shooters for extended minutes, as the San Antonio Spurs have had to do because of injuries and/or personnel deficiencies, is a recipe for failure.
Read more: http://www.48minutesofhell.com/matt-...#ixzz1B1fBO52R
The following is another pretty honest article
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/playe...?playerId=1996
Bonner is more useful than most pure specialists for a couple of reasons. First, he's not awful defensively. Bonner is 6-10 with a wide frame, and his rates of blocks, steals and fouls averaged near the norms for his position. Second, while he'll never be mistaken for Curly Neal, he makes quick decisions with the ball and rarely gives it up. Bonner landed among the top 10 power forwards in both assist ratio and turnover ratio.
Finally, the Red Rocket quietly has developed one of the most effective floaters in the game. That gives him a show-and-go option to complement his 3-pointer -- since there's no way this guy is getting all the way to the rim from the 3-point line -- and allows him to score at a higher rate than most 3-point specialists.
Obviously, the 40.5 percent career mark on 3s is the key to his game, and if he starts missing those shots, the rest of it will crumble pretty quickly. But as long as he hits 3s, he does enough other positive things to be a key rotation player on a good team. NOTE his TS % is a career high at 64.2%!
This is an interesting, albeit somewhat dated, pretty accurate assessment and as long as he is hitting his threes and Pop does not play him more than 22 MPG - it does seem he is out there more recently? It should be all right!
Below is his page at basketballreference.com
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...bonnema01.html
the following is hilarious - first poster wants to get rid of Bonner than an LAL fan wants to get rid of Kobe Bryant?
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...0144418AAZTo65
It wasn't even the first game Bonner's won for the Spurs this season either, his game @ OKC where he went 7/7 from the arc was pretty crazy. He's made some notable improvements over the years and as long as he's not a starter he's a decent option to have on this team. He used to just camp at the 3 point line, now he's got some handles, a floater, hook shots, and improved footwork. Just as long as he doesn't pass up wide open 3's its all good :hat
LOL I feel ya bro! I've been bitching about Bonner for years and it's always the same thing, regular season heroics and post season absence. I was disheartened to learn that Bonner was back this year. He's the very definition of "role player". If that weren't true, opponents wouldn't run out at him and over defend. If that weren't true, we wouldn't do a double take any time Bonner puts the ball on the floor and doesn't turn it over. Sure players pick up skills along the way, and I am sure Matt is as hard a worker as there is in the league, and you cannot argue with his success, but goddamn it's a harrowing experience to watch him pass up a wide open look to drive right into the paint. I always say "shoot the goddamn dude!" but nope, there he goes again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ