We wouldn't be in this mess...

and oil platforms take 5 to 10 years to start producing.

the entire planet is screwed, since it's addicted to (cheap) oil, and there is no alternative energy that scales up as a fuel to replace oil for transport. eg, there's not enough lithium on the planet to convert all cars to full electric and there's not enough uranium to power McLiar's 100-nukelar plant fantasy. More immediately, the financial sector won't finance power plants because they get higher, quicker returns in their rigged/secret casino markets.

Repent, The End Is Near(er than the gutless, lying politicans tell us).

RG claims the world will run out of oil when his granddaughter turns 16. Nuff said.

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You pretend there aren't a half dozen countries already out there drilling.

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Weak straw man attempt.

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Originally Posted by Bartleby

Weak straw man attempt.

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Why? There are several countries already drilling in the very same Gulf of Mexico.

are those non-US Gulf of MX drillers actually producing oil?

we wouldn't be in this mess if we didn't start an unecessary war

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we wouldn't be in this mess if we didn't start an unecessary war

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:lmao

What a fucking idiot.

OPEC has been manipulating oil prices long before Iraq and Afghanistan...

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we wouldn't be in this mess if we didn't start an unecessary war

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Knee meet jerk. Pavlov meet dog.

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Good, and no one claimed to know the exact amount of prices resulting in allowing offshore drilling.

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You claimed it would definitely go down. I said it could conceivably go up. Yours was a lazy argument that was easily picked apart, mainly because you don't know what you're talking about.

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You seem to take it real personally when your own medicine is applied to yourself.

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You seem to take it real personally when you are shown to be less intelligent and knowledgeable than you think you are.

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Why? There are several countries already drilling in the very same Gulf of Mexico.

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Where did I imply that there aren't?

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Where did I imply that there aren't?

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Then why is pointing out that drilling is already taking place in the Gulf a straw man to your assertion the Gulf business and tourist industries would be more affected by our resuming Gulf oil exploration?

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Then why is pointing out that drilling is already taking place in the Gulf a straw man to your assertion the Gulf business and tourist industries would be more affected by our resuming Gulf oil exploration?

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because I was responding to the claim originally posted by Ignignokt that "if you removed regulations and law banning offshore drilling, it would be feasible and we could have more jobs."

I'm not asserting that other countries don't already drill there, but that weaker regulations will result in a greater chance of more oil spills (whether other countries are drilling there or not).

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RG claims the world will run out of oil when his granddaughter turns 16. Nuff said.

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No. There is a massive amount of oil out there. There will be oil still in the ground when my grandkids are bouncing *their* grandkids on their knees.

What will change in my lifetime and make my grandchildren's lives much different is that long before we run out that oil remains will become less and less economical, relative to alternatives, to extract and utilize.

Declining supply coupled with increased demand = higher price point. Nothing earth-shattering about that.

Again, for the umpteenth time, this isn't some civilization "death spiral" that a lot of the hand-wavers push, this is simply a re-alignment, driven by pure market forces. We will still get energy, just shift to different sources.

Energy is energy. Oil is just ONE form of it that we can tap into.

All the drilling offshore of the US will STILL not be enough to make more than a small dent in either oil or gasoline prices.

Deal with that reality.

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because I was responding to the claim originally posted by Ignignokt that "if you removed regulations and law banning offshore drilling, it would be feasible and we could have more jobs."

I'm not asserting that other countries don't already drill there, but that weaker regulations will result in a greater chance of more oil spills (whether other countries are drilling there or not).

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The ironic thing is that by unrestricted drilling, we are choosing some types of jobs over others.

This is ironic, because the OP probably is one of those "government shouldn't choose winners and loser" types.

Unrestricted drilling means choosing oil jobs over fishing/tourism/green jobs.

An uncomfortable thing for such ideologues to accept. This is why they very loudly deny it or try to spin it differently.

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The ironic thing is that by unrestricted drilling, we are choosing some types of jobs over others.

This is ironic, because the OP probably is one of those "government shouldn't choose winners and loser" types.

Unrestricted drilling means choosing oil jobs over fishing/tourism/green jobs.

An uncomfortable thing for such ideologues to accept. This is why they very loudly deny it or try to spin it differently.

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Why? Both coexist fine...with the occasional bump in the road.

Would the fishing/tourism/green jobs be less impacted if a Mexican well blew out?

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What a fucking idiot.

OPEC has been manipulating oil prices long before Iraq and Afghanistan...

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the other messes dumbass.. budget, deficit, etc..

I think the oil left in north america can run my car for about a week.


stfu. yawnivore.