Re: Tiago Splitter: 15 minutes and...
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Originally Posted by
ShoogarBear
The success rate of big men "lottery talent" over the years isn't overwhelming, so saying that Splitter belongs in that group is still a correct statement.
Exactly. Teams in the Lottery are usually looking for a player they can hit it out of the ballpark with but rarely does that wind up being the case. So if you can get a big that's about as close to a "sure thing" as you'll find -- a legit rotation player that can fill a need to be a piece of the big picture puzzle -- it's a much safer and smarter bet to select him than gamble on some upside that may or may not be there.
Re: Tiago Splitter: 15 minutes and...
Pop hasn't decided this year isn't for Tiago, Tiago has. You say he's mailing it in and then proceed to blame Pop? Gary Neal is getting playing time. James Anderson was getting playing time. Pop has been playing the youth, but Tiago has just sucked.
He has potential, but right now the guy simply isn't that good. Thats pretty much the bottom line.
Re: Tiago Splitter: 15 minutes and...
Wow, first of all I'm honored to be among the greatest coaches here on ST. Second of all, we don't know what Pop's instructions were. He could've told the second unit to run set plays. Like someone pointed out, it depends on the PG. Tony goes out and Tiago doesn't get the ball anymore. Geeeshh... :rolleyes
Re: Tiago Splitter: 15 minutes and...
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Originally Posted by
ploto
Antonio McDyess says hello.
Dice is without doubt the most over-rated Spur on this forum. That's not to say he's a positive asset, but at his age he's not the super-sub some are making him out to be.
What we need is a squad of serviceable bigs, not the slim hope that Dice can overcome father time in the playoffs.
Re: Tiago Splitter: 15 minutes and...
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Originally Posted by
Capt Bringdown
Dice is without doubt the most over-rated Spur on this forum. That's not to say he's a positive asset, but at his age he's not the super-sub some are making him out to be.
What we need is a squad of serviceable bigs, not the slim hope that Dice can overcome father time in the playoffs.
So you would prefer to hope the squad of "serviceable bigs" could overcome mediocrity instead? I will take Dice over these "serviceable bigs" you mention. What the hell is that anyhow?
Re: Tiago Splitter: 15 minutes and...
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Originally Posted by
Brazil
I'm french, I have no agenda, look at the flag. I'm just living in Brazil, if not for the spurs I wouldn't give a damn about if Splitter is good or not.
Didn't I say that? I guess I wasn't creative enough with my English to impress upon you my intent.
Re: Tiago Splitter: 15 minutes and...
Isn't Tiago like, newly wed? He probably isn't used to spending too much energy on bed then on court....
Re: Tiago Splitter: 15 minutes and...
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Originally Posted by
MannyIsGod
Pop hasn't decided this year isn't for Tiago, Tiago has. You say he's mailing it in and then proceed to blame Pop? Gary Neal is getting playing time. James Anderson was getting playing time. Pop has been playing the youth, but Tiago has just sucked.
He has potential, but right now the guy simply isn't that good. Thats pretty much the bottom line.
When did I blame Pop? Not agreeing with him is one thing, blaming's another.
The team's 34-6 ... not sure what I could be blaming him for.
Tiago played well when he first started getting minutes and has regressed pretty much ever since. Which leads me to believe, in combination with his body language and urgency of play, that he's fighting an unwinnable battle for minutes in his view.
One other thing that has to be considered is how much Chip and Co. have been working on his shot and game. He may not be sulking as much as all of the retooling has him thinking out there more than reacting, which could very well be the case -- just got done listening to Tiago talk about how they've been working on his shot.
But regardless, the guy doesn't suck. This is a proven player. He's not some future star or anything but given the opportunity to play minutes, get a rhythm and learn his teammates (namely the Big 3), we'll all begin to see the player he truly is and what he's capable of bringing to a contender.
Pop doesn't believe Splitter's upside and potential this year is that of someone who gives them a better chance at long-term success than Blair or Bonner. That's what I've comes to believe, anyway. I disagree -- I believe the Spurs are going to need Splitter and the only way he'll be what they need him to be is to have him get his reps, take his lumps and figure out his role out by the time the postseason rolls around.
Re: Tiago Splitter: 15 minutes and...
Tonight vs. Denver in 8.06 min 3 pts/2 boards/and a hell of a block and Spurs made a run with him in there and he intimitated on a few other shots.
Just let him play and he will produce and it is nice to see a true legit big out there when TD is not.
Re: Tiago Splitter: 15 minutes and...
Tonight vs. Denver first half: in 8.06 min 3 pts/2 boards/and a hell of a block and Spurs made a run with him in there and he intimitated on a few other shots.
http://www.nba.com/games/20110116/DE...#nbaGIboxscore
Just let him play and he will produce and it is nice to see a true legit big out there when TD is not.
Re: Tiago Splitter: 15 minutes and...
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Originally Posted by
Rummpd
Tonight vs. Denver first half: in 8.06 min 3 pts/2 boards/and a hell of a block and Spurs made a run with him in there and he intimitated on a few other shots.
http://www.nba.com/games/20110116/DE...#nbaGIboxscore
Just let him play and he will produce and it is nice to see a true legit big out there when TD is not.
He's minus 3, so was obviously NOT in there for the big run.
He's been OK tonight. LOVED to see him challenge and erase JR Smith's shot at the rim. Frankly, though, if I'm the opposition, I'd just foul him any time he got close enough for a layup. He's horrible at the line. Any further out, and I'd take any little flip shot he throws up in stride.
Re: Tiago Splitter: 15 minutes and...
He bridged the part where Denver created its lead and the Spurs did make a major move up and by the time Duncan came back in the Spurs were near or at the lead. Splitter did have a ball swiped from him and missed a close in shot but otherwise he did better and again it shows: 1) Pop has at least some faith in him; 2) he is not worthless as some recently have suggested but has the potential to be a big to fill a key need at the right time for the Spurs going forward.
Re: Tiago Splitter: 15 minutes and...
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Originally Posted by
MannyIsGod
Pop hasn't decided this year isn't for Tiago, Tiago has. You say he's mailing it in and then proceed to blame Pop? Gary Neal is getting playing time. James Anderson was getting playing time. Pop has been playing the youth, but Tiago has just sucked.
He has potential, but right now the guy simply isn't that good. Thats pretty much the bottom line.
Pop's had no choice but to play them, considering the fact that they're the only backup wings on the team. Granted, Hill plays almost half of his minutes at the two, but still. There is no Blair, Bonner or McDyess on the wings to play ahead of them.
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Re: Tiago Splitter: 15 minutes and...
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Originally Posted by
ChuckD
He's minus 3, so was obviously NOT in there for the big run.
He's been OK tonight. LOVED to see him challenge and erase JR Smith's shot at the rim. Frankly, though, if I'm the opposition, I'd just foul him any time he got close enough for a layup. He's horrible at the line. Any further out, and I'd take any little flip shot he throws up in stride.
He was minus 3 on account of Harrington hitting a decently contested 3-ball. When he came in they were down one, when the first quarter ended they were down 4.
But I assume Rummpd was speaking to the 11-1 run Splitter was apart of to finish his second stint. That run allowed the Spurs to tread water and play the Nuggets even during the second quarter and wound up being the setup for the big run of 19-0 a minute and a half later.
Re: Tiago Splitter: 15 minutes and...
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Originally Posted by
Blackjack
When did I blame Pop? Not agreeing with him is one thing, blaming's another.
The team's 34-6 ... not sure what I could be blaming him for.
Tiago played well when he first started getting minutes and has regressed pretty much ever since. Which leads me to believe, in combination with his body language and urgency of play, that he's fighting an unwinnable battle for minutes in his view.
One other thing that has to be considered is how much Chip and Co. have been working on his shot and game. He may not be sulking as much as all of the retooling has him thinking out there more than reacting, which could very well be the case -- just got done listening to Tiago talk about how they've been working on his shot.
But regardless, the guy doesn't suck. This is a proven player. He's not some future star or anything but given the opportunity to play minutes, get a rhythm and learn his teammates (namely the Big 3), we'll all begin to see the player he truly is and what he's capable of bringing to a contender.
Pop doesn't believe Splitter's upside and potential this year is that of someone who gives them a better chance at long-term success than Blair or Bonner. That's what I've comes to believe, anyway. I disagree -- I believe the Spurs are going to need Splitter and the only way he'll be what they need him to be is to have him get his reps, take his lumps and figure out his role out by the time the postseason rolls around.
Re: Tiago Splitter: 15 minutes and...
Anybody still comparing Tiago to Oberto needs a smack upside the head.. Oberto was a GOOD player, Tiago sucks. Don't insult Oberto by comparing him to Splitter.