i only hope the worst for the mavs and their fans, nothing bad like injuries or death, but so far so good!
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i only hope the worst for the mavs and their fans, nothing bad like injuries or death, but so far so good!
and they play the lakers then chicago at chicago, I hope for them chandler will be back for the lakersQuote:
Originally Posted by Mel_13
The local word on the street is that if te Mavs do "pull the trigger on a trade", it will be for Stephen Jackson. They are desparate to fill the scoring hole left by Caron Butler's injury.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phila_Chamberlain
Short memory - while the Spurs have been extremely blessed regarding injuries this year, they've had to play more than a few games over the past 3-4 years without various members of the Big 3. On all those occasions, they have managed to keep their head above water (and sometimes even better).Quote:
Originally Posted by Phila_Chamberlain
Hell, last year the Spurs beat a healthy Mavs team without Tim AND Tony early in the season.
Mavs have been lucky, they've been healthy for years. The Lakers as well, Bynum not-withstanding.
And let's not forget the Mavs notched the most recent first round playoff series victory in 2008 (their only one in the past 5 years), it came courtesy of the Manu injury and a hobbled Duncan.Quote:
Originally Posted by K-State Spur
it's not like the mavs were gona win anything anyway.
Meltdown in Januar vs. meltdown in April
You and me both! We need more separation from the Lakers, we have a good gap between us and Dallas.Quote:
Originally Posted by honestfool84
He also picked the Suns over LA last year. That was homerism, not hard to understand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phila_Chamberlain
The Mavs were doing pretty well when Charles made those remarks.
If not Jackson, Corey Maggette and Tayshun Prince has also been mentioned as possible targets. Of course, Maggette has an absolute killer contract. It just proves once again that desparate buyers must take big risks. ANd the Mavs are rapidly reaching that threshold of a desparate buyer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phila_Chamberlain
He was BIG TIME on the Spurs bandwagon pretty much ever year from '03-'06. I think losing the '06 Mavs series turned him away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phila_Chamberlain
If you're rooting against the Mavs, Maggette is the deal you want them to make. Would use up an expiring without making their team much better than it is as of today.Quote:
Originally Posted by SenorSpur
I don't think any of the rumored names can be plugged in halfway through the season and (re)make them a title contender - but some options are better than others.
Barkley also picked suns over spurs last year.
Cool story broQuote:
Originally Posted by Cessation
Yeah, I've thought for a while that they'd get desperate and pull the trigger on a Jackson deal. He's good enough to stem the tide some, but not nearly good enough to make them a legit contender (which, even when healthy, they never were).Quote:
Originally Posted by SenorSpur
They're old, slow, overrated defensively and lack anything resembling explosive offense. In fact, their offense is so poor that they're relying on Nowitzki's jumper continuing to fall at a rate it's never even come close to falling at just to resemble that of a competent offense. They remind me somewhat of the 07-08 Spurs, in that their margin for error is slim.
Because Nowitzki's their all-time guy and they just re-signed him for four seasons and he took less than he could have received, they feel like they owe it to him to continue to try to win now. I get that. But if they were being honest with themselves, they'd realize it's time to re-build.
Beaubois is a piece. Chandler is no longer up and coming, but still young enough to be a piece going forward. Jones is a maybe and Mahinmi and Ajinca are question marks, but the rest they either need to move on from or look to move. It'll take a lot of shrewd front office work and some good fortune, but they may be able to turn it around in two seasons if everything goes right. Because they have one, not three, major piece to build around and because they have veterans with bloated, long term contracts, such as Haywood and Marion, it would be an even greater undertaking than what the Spurs set out to do after the 07-08 season.
But I still think it's worth a shot, even though it sounds bleak at this juncture of re-loading on the fly while Nowitzki is still near the top of his game (his game should continue to age well, though). Because the truth is, short of acquiring the future Hall-of-Fame, at or near the top of his game perimeter player that they need (and are not going to be able to acquire, both because none are available and even if one were, they lack the pieces to acquire them) and that could mask some of their other deficiencies, they're not going to have a realistic chance of winning a championship in the Nowitzki era. That was cemented after the 06-07 season.
They should have pulled the trigger on SJax when Butler went down. Now Charlotte knows they're desperate and will probably want to dump a couple of more contracts in such a trade.
The Bobcats might be stupid enough to take on Haywood if the Mavs take Diop off their hands. Haywood is 31, but would give them a starting center for the foreseeable future, considering the fact that he's got five more seasons after this left on his contract (final one is a team option). The Bobcats do have a gaping hole in the middle, plus he played his college ball at nearby North Carolina. Not that that should matter or he'd be a draw, but they seem to value that their.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
Diop has two seasons left on his contract after this (final one is a player option and there's no way he'll decline it), so this would be a real coup for the Mavs, to be able to rid themselves of Haywood's contract. At the same time, they could increase Chandler's minutes and find out what they have in Mahinmi.
Butler, Haywood and Jones or a 1st for Jackson, Diop and Najera works financially and is a trade that I wouldn't be surprised to see.
The Bobcats get a big expiring contract, a starting center for the foreseeable future and a decent, young, inexpensive asset and the Mavs get something resembling a go-to perimeter scorer/shot creator, a less burdensome contract to backup Chandler and an upgrade over Cardinal to backup Nowitzki (which isn't saying much).
haha diop back on the mavs would be awesome! and najera would be the cherry on top... hahahaha!
so, what you're saying is.... 2009 & a 1st round exit all over again? yes, do it cuban!
The Mavericks deserve every misfortune and loss because of it. I fart in their general direction. Cubans Mother was a hamster, and his father smelt of elderberries. When the Mavs and Spurs play again, I will taunt them a second time-uh. "I'm French! Where do you think I get this OUTRAGEOUS accent from?!"Quote:
Originally Posted by tdunk21
:pimpslap :deadhorse
:lol "Title contenders"
And now that Charlotte is playing better ball under Silas, theres even less of a chance the Bobcats trade him...Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
It will be 8 straight loss. They will play against Lakers at home and at Bulls in back to back.