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Come playoff time (if our teams meet), the backcourt will have a couple good games then the Lakers will pack the paint like we've seen countless times in the playoffs. Tim is good, but not dominant on the block anymore so the Lakers won't have to double as much--meaning better perimeter D.Quote:
Originally Posted by jestersmash
You mean like an Antonio McDyess, whos got a damn good jump shot and is good defensively?Quote:
Originally Posted by DeadlyDynasty
I love how everyone around Laker to Spur fan shits on Antonio McDyess.
The guy plays damn good defense has a very reliable jump shot 15 and out, his defense in the playoffs gets better (ask Dirk Nowitzki)
I just find it hilarious that he's grouped with Matt Bonner and DeJuan Blair as these bigs who "Can't possibly guard the opposing big"
Funny thing is, you only see mirages when you are going crazy, or severely dehydrated.
Probably drank too much of the Lakers combined nut juice.
Echoing my frontcourt sentiments earlier, points in the paint is a pretty good indicator of playoff success as well. LAL lead the league last year in PIP, and they are #1 this year w/ a PIP differential of +14--surprising, since Kobe is in "fuck the triangle, just chuck it" mode. If they're already that good in the paint while playing uninspired, lord knows how they'll do in the playoffs.
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Tim is good, but not dominant on the block anymore so the Lakers won't have to double as much--meaning better perimeter D.
Yeah, you bank on that and see what happens.
It'll be interesting to see how the Fisher vs Parker matchup goes and how it affects each team. I think that's one matchup that's too often overlooked by many Lakers fans, and things might get even more interesting if Parker ever truly develops his 3 point shot which he's been trying to do as of recent.
The keys will be, If Duncan and McDyess can play good D on their bigs, if Jefferson can hit his shots, Gary Neal same, George Hill same and Parker hits his mid range shots as well.
It's overlooked b/c it's pretty much a given that the opposing teams' PG's usually go off on Fish. Westbrook, Brooks, Parker, D-Will, Rondo (to an extent), and Nash have all feasted on LAL in the playoffs...but their production markedly decreases as the series goes on. Difference is the Lakers beat those teams up in the paint in all aspects.Quote:
Originally Posted by jestersmash
Duncan and Dice are solid, bonner and blair, are ok but inconsistent, and splitter is there to give 6 fouls. Lakers have only 3 bigs, I have no doubt spurs will hold their own against them. Other than kobe, what other quality guards do the lakers have? Spurs have more than enough. This years laker team looks the least impressive of the last 4 years, each championship run gets harder and harder, don't think they'll do it this year. Its bound to end sometime.
Well then, I guess it's settled. Congrats fellas.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cessation
I remember telling you before that the Spurs perimeter are not the same 1 dimensional players of Spurs teams past. Each one of the perimeter players in the rotation can do much more than just shoot 3 balls. They can all get in the paint, and score in the midrange.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeadlyDynasty
Everybody seems to misunderstand "speed" in basketball. It is not just the pace of the game. The perimeter of the Spurs is just physically faster than their Laker counterparts. They will get from point A to point B faster. It is a simple fact. Slowing the pace of the game doesn't make the players move slower. I personally think that having to chase these speedy guards all over the place, AND closeout on shooters, will make hauling all that size around very tiresome.
The Spurs in their meeting with LA, Phil did exactly what he always did defensively against the Spurs. PACK THE PAINT!!! The strategy clearly didn't work. It was also a terrible shooting night for the Spurs' marksmen. Their shots weren't falling so they switched to driving the lane and lo and behold, finding a wide open DEJUAN BLAIR!!! Try (if you can) to think if the Spurs shooters were actually hitting their average from deep. The loss would have been much much worse. Size can only get you so far if you do not have the footspeed to keep up.
Ali didn't have the most powerful punch in his era. He killed people with his speed. That is what made him great. Speed kills. If you do not think it matters, then why the hell does LA have so much trouble against fast point guards.... EVEN IN THE PLAYOFFS?
LA'S BIGGEST FOE IS athletic teams. The Spurs involving James Anderson hopefully become that much more athletic.
The Spurs now are more athletic on the perimeter which will help...
........... What is LA's weakness in a series though? Like Aaron Brooks? Guard play! Slashers who can kill Fishers old ass out there to the hoop! Spurs have just that so no mention of that there? Spurs hava LA's weakness too and quite a few of them! Hill, Gino and Parker will give them fits if they meet too, book it.Quote:
Originally Posted by SenorSpur
The Lakers have played speedier backcourts in the past (including a fresher Manu and Tony in 04--and 08 for Tony), and it hasn't really changed your fortunes.Quote:
Originally Posted by xellos88330
Speed kills. Good for you...at the end of the day they still have to make their shots. I'll take my teams' front court dominance over your teams' superior perimeter play any day of the week.
You clearly didn't read my post...every backcourt plays well against LAL in the playoffs, but none of them win...why is that do ya think? :bangQuote:
Originally Posted by xellos88330
key word.Quote:
Originally Posted by EricB
If it's such a weakness then why hasn't LA lost? I'm being patient here, sooner or later ya'll will understand the value of a frontcourt.
I pose this question to any Spurfan here: LA gets habitually raped by opposing backcourts in the playoffs, yet none of those teams win. Why is that?
In the regular season. In the playoffs, take a look at the teams that bludgeoned LA in the Finals. Versatile, tall, long and skilled. No athleticism gimmicksQuote:
Originally Posted by EricB
Yeah fisher is shit and he gets constantly raped, and Kobe occasionally gets raped by more athletic 2-guards too. But why are still the Lakers back to back champions?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean Cagney
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Originally Posted by DeadlyDynasty
Commissioner David Stern when asked what would be the ideal NBA Finals?
"The Los Angeles Lakers vs The Los Angeles Lakers" and the gift of Pau Gasol ,
Go fuck Dyan Cannon, it's your turn.
Laker fans, not enough of Mom's left tit or Dad's ballsack.
Spoken like a true spurfan...when you've lost the argument go cry Stern and collusion:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by JWest596
Maybe next time, junior
Did anyone catch that Lakers / Thunder game ? I checked in to see if the Lakers were starting to play better. They really aren't. The team that Lakers' fans should worry about is their own.
Kobe was hogging the ball and hoisting up terrible shots. They still don't have their act together. They came off a loss to the Clippers and were in jeopardy of losing another one.
Does anyone realize how tough it is to win 2 Championships in a row, much less 3 ? They may kick it up a notch when the playoffs start but it won't be enough. The Spurs can take them.
Because Gasol wasn't dead-legged and playing like a pussy like right now?Quote:
Originally Posted by DeadlyDynasty
It definitely had nothing to do with Bynum's 7/7 ecstasy.
Home court advantage has proven to play a huge role for the Lakers too.
And you'll have to excuse me, but Fisher hasn't looked this done since ever.
Just two double-digit games in 27 games against the easiest schedule in the league?
Those miles in those legs do add up. And at least as far as Kome and Gasol is concerned, they're not getting that much rest either, considering almost every team seems to be pushing the Lakers to the last minute of every game.
Did you watch the entire Lakers/Thunders game or did you just watch the highlights? It was a solid win by the Lakers, and Kobe notably did not go into his chucking mode, particularly during the 1st three quarters.
He's always had the green light to shoot whatever he wants 4th quarter (well, he has the green light to do whatever the fuck he wants, really), but most importantly his 4th quarter stats have always been solid so those shots aren't really ill-advised. His chucking ways become a problem when he wants to go 1 on 1 all the time during the 1st three quarters, and that certainly wasn't the case.
I really doubt you watched the game if you think Kobe was going into "chuck" mode last night.
Right now there are worries but the goal is to get to the postseason healthy and playing well.Quote:
Originally Posted by tmtcsc
Were you watching the wrong game? Kobe had 12 shots and 7 astQuote:
Originally Posted by tmtcsc
With the cast that we have, I'm sure they're ready to take on the challenges :tu :tu :tuQuote:
Originally Posted by tmtcsc