Spartan budget plan calls for broad cuts

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Originally Posted by johnsmith

Gosh, I hope my property taxes go up.

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Nah we all need more uneducated young folk running around with nothing to do... recipe for societal success..

They could also quit building $100 Million dollar palaces and $30 Million Dollar Sports Complexes.

The nicest, most modern buildings in my town, are city facilities and schools. My tax dollars at work.

Here's an idea...

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Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro

Nah we all need more uneducated young folk running around with nothing to do... recipe for societal success..

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I'm not really sure what you are implying by quoting me and following it up with this, but I agree, stupid young people is a bad idea.

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Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro

Nah we all need more uneducated young folk running around with nothing to do... recipe for societal success..

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As if the current education system with its bloated budgets isn't kicking them out in record numbers.

Money isn't the answer. Accountability is.

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Originally Posted by johnsmith

I'm not really sure what you are implying by quoting me and following it up with this, but I agree, stupid young people is a bad idea.

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I was responding to your post regarding your property taxes. Something has to give because either the state wants to have a literate work force or they don't. The cost of living is increasing yet TX wants to use 2008 dollars to fix 2011 problems.


I think more people are concerned about paying 100.00 extra a year in property taxes than the long term affects of under funding public education.

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

As if the current education system with its bloated budgets isn't kicking them out in record numbers.

Money isn't the answer. Accountability is.

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And you know this how? Specifically what do you base this statement on? Do you know any teachers?

Does the cost of living go up every year? So everyone needs more money to keep up.. including schools.

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Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro

I was responding to your post regarding your property taxes. Something has to give because either the state wants to have a literate work force or they don't. The cost of living is increasing yet TX wants to use 2008 dollars to fix 2011 problems.


I think more people are concerned about paying 100.00 extra a year in property taxes than the long term affects of under funding public education.

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So right away you think that raising property taxes should be the soluion to the budget cuts? I don't get it. Please explain.

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Originally Posted by johnsmith

So right away you think that raising property taxes should be the soluion to the budget cuts? I don't get it. Please explain.

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We need to fund public education.

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Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro

We need to fund public education.

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Fine. Books, buildings, and teachers can't cost as much as we're being charged in taxes.

How do I know. Because the private school to which I send my children are able to educate them -- and have a 99% graduation rate -- with books, teachers, and classrooms and for a hell of a lot less than the public school, per student, costs. There is a principal and an assistant principal - they share a secretary. Everyone else teaches...oh wait, the assistant principal teaches too.

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

Fine. Books, buildings, and teachers can't cost as much as we're being charged in taxes.

How do I know. Because the private school to which I send my children are able to educate them -- and have a 99% graduation rate -- with books, teachers, and classrooms and for a hell of a lot less than the public school, per student, costs. There is a principal and an assistant principal - they share a secretary. Everyone else teaches...oh wait, the assistant principal teaches too.

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So you don't know..

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Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro

We need to fund public education.

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And raising property taxes is your best solution?

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Originally Posted by johnsmith

And raising property taxes is your best solution?

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More revenue is the solution amd property tax is one a very ways of doing it in Texas.

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

Fine. Books, buildings, and teachers can't cost as much as we're being charged in taxes.

How do I know. Because the private school to which I send my children are able to educate them -- and have a 99% graduation rate -- with books, teachers, and classrooms and for a hell of a lot less than the public school, per student, costs. There is a principal and an assistant principal - they share a secretary. Everyone else teaches...oh wait, the assistant principal teaches too.

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Is everything the same at public and private schools? Do they serve the same amount of students and the same kind of students? If we closed public schools tomorrow would private school costs go up or stay the same and would they be able to handle all the students and comply with all applicable laws?

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Originally Posted by MannyIsGod

Is everything the same at public and private schools? Do they serve the same amount of students and the same kind of students? If we closed public schools tomorrow would private school costs go up or stay the same and would they be able to handle all the students and comply with all applicable laws?

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What? Yoni's explanation shows that public schools and private schools are exactly the same.. dealing with the same probelms. I assume that Yoni's private school has poor kids that go there. The one's who need the free lunch and breakfast programs. Yoni pays out of pockets for those costs.

it's exactly the same comparison

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Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro

More revenue is the solution amd property tax is one a very ways of doing it in Texas.

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What are the other ways of doing it?

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Originally Posted by johnsmith

What are the other ways of doing it?

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Legalize gambling.

^^^Well played Manny.

Also, how fucking cool would that be? I'd support the hell out of public education.

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Originally Posted by johnsmith

What are the other ways of doing it?

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increase state sales tax

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Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro

increase state sales tax

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That one I don't mind as much......but see, thinking outside the box, you are now putting the burden of responsibility on everyone, and I think that's a good thing.

Having said that, Manny's idea is way fucking better.

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Originally Posted by johnsmith

That one I don't mind as much......but see, thinking outside the box, you are now putting the burden of responsibility on everyone, and I think that's a good thing.

Having said that, Manny's idea is way fucking better.

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I worked in a couple of casinos back in the day... I love me some blackjack.. and watered down bloody marys at 4 am...:toast

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Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro

I worked in a couple of casinos back in the day... I love me some blackjack.. and watered down bloody marys at 4 am...:toast

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The bloody mary part just convinced me to do the following in order: Log off, shut down, leave office, go drinking, go watch UT whip some Aggie ass live and in person.


Good day.

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Originally Posted by Crookshanks

I think they should eliminate lots of school districts and consolidate them into bigger districts. For instance, divide San Antonio into 4 districts and use I-10 and 410 as the dividing lines. You could cut out lots of administration salaries and cut the costs of running all those offices. It would also help small, poor districts by consolidating them into a large district where the tax base is better.

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

They could also quit building $100 Million dollar palaces and $30 Million Dollar Sports Complexes.

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Originally Posted by MannyIsGod

Legalize gambling.

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Three very good ideas IMO.

legalize pot and gambling

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

'bout fucking time. In some districts, public schools spend 4 to 5 times as much, per student, as do private schools.

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