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Funny how they didn't touch the massive defense budget...
"defense": what an expensive lie that word is.
Good news. Thanks for the link.
It's a start. Not nearly enough though. That's $2.5T in spending cuts over 10 years. Last year's defecit was $1.5T. None of those cuts touch defense, SS or medicare either. Sooner or later someone is going to have to acknowledge that massive cuts are required in those 3 programs if we really want to be serious about getting our financial house in order.
Not gonna fly though. I assume choking funding for Obamacare is a non-starter. Hopefully they can sit down and compromise so at least there's some sort of cuts in place in other areas where's there more consensus.
Haha, no cut whatsoever to our massive corn and war subsidies? What a bunch of worthless cocksuckers.
Seems obvious...Quote:
Require collection of unpaid taxes by federal employees. $1 billion total savings.
Predictable.Quote:
Corporation for Public Broadcasting Subsidy. $445 million annual savings.
Holy shit our govenment pisses away a ton of money. You would think the GOP and DNC would agree to cut all that fat.
Just curious, what part of the Defense Budget needs to be cut? (Not saying I disagree, just playing a bit of Devil's Advocate.)Quote:
Originally Posted by coyotes_geek
So obvious I have to wonder why the hell we're not already doing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurminator
It's a start. They are going to have to do this and more, plus hit defense and homeland security hard too before they have a PRAYER of getting the public to support cutting entitlements like SS and Medicare. Everybody needs to hurt.
Cutting through attrition is the same as cutting jobs. The end result, it costs jobs.
Republicans want job killing legislation!
I'm certainly in the crowd that doesn't think we need to be the world's policeman, so a reduction in our overseas presence seems acceptable to me. TBH, I didn't have any specific defense cuts in mind, but know that defense, SS & M make up 2/3 of the budget. All three need to be touched to some extent if we're going to make this work.Quote:
Originally Posted by LnGrrrR
Only one candidate would have defunded the world police. You didn't vote for him. Why u mad?
Being world police is a joke. Bring what we can back to the states and throw them down on the border. That will keep them busy.
I couldn't tell you off the top of my head, but I have no doubt cuts can be made. Aren't there purchases of equipment that congress makes for the military, that the military doesn't want?Quote:
Originally Posted by LnGrrrR
No, attrition is a painless way of making cius, because it doesn't displace any of the workforce.Quote:
Originally Posted by DMX7
Big difference.
Do you feel your hair rustle when these things go over your head?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
No, just when you throw a basketball at my head, and you miss.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
What will the votes be in the senate....50-50?
It wouldn't surprise me if Wyden is a YES vote. He wants to exclude Oregon from the legislation after reading the bill.Quote:
Originally Posted by jack sommerset
They've got to get it past Reid first.
But, I hear there's a plan.
That thing is not getting to the floor without changes...Quote:
Originally Posted by jack sommerset
As it is, it's not getting past the Senate.
Hopefully the Dems jump in there and cut another couple of trillion dollars. Keep on keeping on.
I doubt it will get past senate as well. This is Barrys deal. We will need to vote him out to put this thing out of it's misery.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
Well, you could wait until 2012 and see what's up then, or you could do SOME cuts in areas where the Dems agree. I think the latter would be better than the former.Quote:
Originally Posted by jack sommerset
Any weapon systems contract that is designed to fight a European land war.Quote:
Originally Posted by LnGrrrR
Its is difficult to impossible to know US military projects because it is all classified. We still order planes that cost $100 million dollars, boats that cost even more and the like.
Gates canceling the F-22 is a start in the right direction.
The F-35, the P-8, the V-22, the Virginia class sub, Ford class carriers, DDG class destroyers etc.
How about we GTFO of Afghanistan and stop wasting lives and money there?
Shit, just keep some unmanned drones and a strict no-fly zone you can patrol, like Bush Sr did in Iraq.
Because that worked so well.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
It worked great for our deficit and spending. I still don't even know why Bush Jr invaded Iraq at all. At this point, Pakistan is probably a higher threat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
Yeah, that's obvious.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
Never ending wars worked well? What did we achieve with them?
It worked extremely well. Saddam couldn't and didn't do shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
Yeah right. The military would never say "No please this is enough money."Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
We got some cool military bases in exotic locations around the world...duh...Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
Actually I did vote for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlairForceDejuan
The Repugs are owned by MIC (among others), and are financed by the MIC which sucks down $100Bs tax dollar wealth every year. The Repugs are only protecting their own finances and financiersQuote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
And the Dems are no better, only less upfront about how owned they are.
Citizens' votes count for absolute zilch, perfectly disenfranchised, in the United Corporations of America.
There is no way to take UCA back from the kleptocratic oligarchy.
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Originally Posted by boutons_deux
Anyone want to vbookie that boutons refers to the United States as the "UCA" from here on out in every one of his posts?