http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_811223.html
This guy really gets it. :tu
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_811223.html
This guy really gets it. :tu
When the Chinese dictator was asked about human rights yesterday, Chinese TV screens went instantly blank
Man, huff-n-puff is on it, brah. Now that's some news.
Cool find, bro :tu
:lmao
Other than wanting to be a shit-head, why would you possibly defend the racist tirade of fat, influential, windbag, scat muncher?Quote:
Originally Posted by Viva Las Espuelas
I think now we are headed back to the times where we insulted the rest of the world and then complain when they don't play nice with us.. Those were the good old times "Old Europe", "Y'er either with us or against us" etc...
he should be careful on his next "special asian vacation."
Hell I'm interested what you would call Hu after reading what you labeled Rush. Well............ really not that interested.Quote:
Originally Posted by balli
If anybody were to mock the leader of a country where a worker(rat) works for $300 a month I would think it's a non-issue. When a "worthy" news organization reports on it, it's pretty fucking stupid. SNL makes fun of world leaders. Does HuffnPuff report on them every Sunday. Many comedians have mocked Chinese language in their stand up, no? Hell, I've done it and I know you have too and if you haven't then I'm sorry, O Righteous One.
Credit to baseline for posting this a few months back:Quote:
Originally Posted by Viva Las Espuelas
Seriously? Seriously? You really wanna go down the road of comparing a sketch comedy show or a comedian to a completely serious racist tirade from a political commentator? Just making sure that's the road you want to choose.Quote:
SNL makes fun of world leaders. Does HuffnPuff report on them every Sunday. Many comedians have mocked Chinese language in their stand up, no?
racist tirade from a political commentator? He's THE voice of the Republican party...Quote:
Originally Posted by balli
I can't comment on the vid cuz I can't see it on my phone. As far as this "road I choose/chose", I'm just following HuffnPuff's lead. You should maybe start arguing with them before you start your blathering to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by balli
What's the difference? They're all just entertainers.Quote:
Originally Posted by balli
No. SNL is a comedy show. They sometimes mocks politicians. They don't mock, in a directly hateful, non-comedic way, the essence of different cultures or languages.Quote:
Originally Posted by coyotes_geek
Maybe some shit comedian out there is getting laughs from redneck bubbas, by going up on stage and mocking Mandarin Chinese. No comedian who is taken even half seriously does that.
Rush Limbaugh, as GGA pointed out, is to an extent one of the most influential voices of the modern GOP (if not THE voice). He is not a shit comedian. He is not an entertainer. And he is not just a mouthpiece for the GOP's agenda. He creates and drives the ethic of the Republican party. And defending his being a flat out hateful racist, under the guise that 'it's just entertainment' is naive at best. More likely disingenuous; I question why.
[email protected]'s snide remark.
That was quite funny. I'll give him that.
After translating Rushs' Chinese..."My favorite donut is every donut...when I stand up...my chair smells like a cat shelter..."
Spare me. Political commentators are entertainers, nothing more.Quote:
Originally Posted by balli
You're wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by coyotes_geek
Even if you weren't and Rush were nothing more than an entertainer, he'd be the shittiest, most offensive one on earth.
The difference is rush is serious about his racism.
Not as good as the SNL skit that mocked the Chinese President, but still pretty funny.
http://www.hulu.com/watch/110317/sat...hina-cold-open
so you can look into his heart?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Gimme a break. Rush Limbaugh holds no more power than people are willing to give him.
That was hystericalQuote:
Originally Posted by DarrinS
I don't have to look into his heart; just have to listen to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by angrydude
Pointing out one's racist actions is not giving one power.Quote:
Gimme a break. Rush Limbaugh holds no more power than people are willing to give him.
I couldn't understand what Rush said, tbh.
Chinee can mean something a bit different in Trinidad, but it ain't PC nowise:
That's some funny stuff. Sucks for you not having a sense of humor.
You don't know anything about me, GaleForceGuano.
Chappelle does it. He is married to an Asian. Quit being a puss.Quote:
Originally Posted by balli
it's Ritalin time, Balli.
The difference between making light of our racial differences and actively attacking those differences with the intention of demeaning, or criticizing said group is apparently lost on you. It's quite literally the difference between making fond jabs at black people for stereotypically liking hip hop music, and running up to a black person and shouting at him with random Ebonics, using everything but the N word to ridicule him.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlairForceDejuan
I don't know why I should be surprised. Many Rush supporters showed that they abandoned all capacity for rational thought or critical thinking a long time ago.
It's just saddening to me that I live in a country where this kind of bigoted racism is actively defended and even promoted. That it still exists in such a virulent form in one of the most advanced countries in the world is just depressing.
Rush comports himself honorably, effectively, truthfully as the racist, xenophobic Repug party's leader, spokesman, thought dictator that no Repug would dare cross.
Sucks for you that you're a racist, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlairForceDejuan
Much ado about nothing. :lmao
feigned at its' finest. :tu
oh and still a cool story, brah :tu
Colbert translated for us. Google it if you're curious.Quote:
Originally Posted by jack sommerset
0:39 :toast
"feigned"
it's a cool story of your defending racist caricature.Quote:
Originally Posted by Viva Las Espuelas
Brah.
Among all the things he could mock about Hu, he chose Chinese language...
And of course his tone and voice is not charming at all because he doesn't need this to get the audience to "vote", but that's another subject.
Bill Hader and Rush Limbaugh; both entertainers, both "mock" Hu Jintao.
I don't see the difference.
Besides, Hu is tyrant who deserves mocking. Well, the entire PRC is a fucking tyrannical regime. Fuck'em...I hope he got his panties in a wad.
Well, yoni, you're an idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
And racist.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Tyrant defending lol
Feigned lol
It's going to be funny when the Chinese buy the media conglomerate that Rush shills for and fires his fat ass. :lol
Limbaugh didn't mock Hu Jintao. He mocked the Chinese language as a whole.
He mocked both.Quote:
Originally Posted by CuckingFunt
Point being that his actions can't really be compared to those of a comedian or a satirist (or anyone else) poking fun at a specific person's mannerisms.Quote:
Originally Posted by DMX7
Why can't Rush be compared to a comedian or an entertainer? He certainly isn't a journalist.Quote:
Originally Posted by CuckingFunt
Journalists have professional standards regarding what they say and how they say it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Winehole23
Rush limbaugh = zero standards
That was my point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winehole23
Yeah, well, that's his excuse.
Got to say one thing. Old Rushbo got your
attention, didn't he.
Of course most of you are a bunch of racist
anyhow. You hate White Conservative talk
show host, with 19 million viewers....
:lmao
Not so much anymore. It's kinda hokey.
The problem with the comparison lies not within what Rush is, but in what he did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winehole23
Mocking a specific person's mannerisms is very different than mocking an entire country's language, regardless who's doing the mocking. That's why I think something like an SNL sketch makes a bad comparison, not because I think (for a moment) that Rush is anything resembling a journalist.
They're pretty much both premeditated. No difference at all.
Gee, I guess comedians and other actors shouldn't impersonate or play any ethnicity outside of their own from now on so all this strife will subsided.
Oh, the pain. Oh, the agony. dribble dribble.
BUT, in the end, I............Quote:
Originally Posted by fraga
people with different opinions to your own.Quote:
Originally Posted by xrayzebra
/discussion
When they are racist, sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Viva Las Espuelas
Why does he need an excuse? I don't see SNL being dragged over the coals for mocking Hu and the Chinese language.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winehole23
I don't see Rush's being dragged over the coals either.
He's just a racist. No big deal for you.
Rush called Steinbrenner a cracker.
Will Ferrell in Elf called his dad(James Caan) a cotton-headed ninny muggins. Que lastima
Just to be clear: One of the leading voices of the Republican/conservative movement is equal to a poorly written satire show designed to be as stupid and moronic as possible to elicit laughter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yonivore
That comparison actually makes things a lot more transparent. Thanks for clearing that up for me. :tu
A leading voice of the Republican party with 19 million loyal listeners = Will Farrell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Viva Las Espuelas
:tu Fantastic.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cry Havoc
Quote:
Originally Posted by fraga
feigned
Presumably because the one skewers ignorant mockery, while the other one just sounds funny. There's not a real bright line there IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by CuckingFunt
kinda like when you say "and don't take offense" right before you say something offensive. Or "offensive". either way, it's stupid to start a thread and let people add to the stupidity beyond starting it in the first place.
I thought that was the reason for starting it. So that people can add to the stupidity. What is this forum for?
talking about the spurs and such.
This forum? You gotta be kidding, VLE. This is the one forum where the Spurs get no play at all.
I was thinking of the royal "we"
in the parlance of our times.
WTF are you talking about, VLE? What royal we?
Too generous by half. Rush is neither as funny nor as entertaining as SNL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cry Havoc
(Cute and funny always count. If you make people laugh, they might be inclined to overlook the indiscretions that caused them to laugh in the first place.)
As thrashed out in this thread so far the main difference seems to be aesthetic: who was entertained (or not), and by whom.
Racists love Rush's racist caricatures.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winehole23
While SNL is axiomatically immune from charges of racism, even when milking it for a cheap laugh.
If Rush marketed himself as a "late night comedy skit show" I'm pretty sure he would get away with a lot more. Look at Howard Stern -- he's specifically an entertainer, and basically does what he wants on air. But even HE gets criticized at times, and he's far less of a "serious political commentator" than Rush.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winehole23
Alternatively, if people looked to SNL for real political dialogue, I'm almost certain they would be lambasted whenever they trotted out stereotypes.
Rush is a decidedly unserious political commentator. Influential, yes.
He's considered one of the leading voices of the Republican party, or at the very least the conservative movement, is he not? His supporters in this forum like to repeatedly state how many people listen to him as a reflection of his influence. He was also the keynote speaker at the 2009 Conservative Political Action Conference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winehole23
He's a very influential broadcaster. Your point?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cry Havoc
Wonder if he'll go this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cry Havoc
My point is that when the Democrats start looking to SNL as a leading voice of their party, then it can be readily attacked for making light of race in the same manner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winehole23
Until then, it's a comedy show (a fairly tasteless one at that), and Rush is a serious social commentator.
Would it be acceptable for Rachel Maddow to go on air and start talking in a completely nonsensical redneck voice to mock people from the south? I personally don't feel that having your own talk show is valid pretext to say anything you want under the guise of entertainment. Would it be acceptable for someone like Jon Stewart to go on his show and call for Rush Limbaugh's execution? I mean, after all, he's an "entertainer"... does that give him a free pass to say what he likes with no expectation of reprisal?
What Rush did seems very filthy and xenophobic to me, and his listeners could be influenced by such statements. He has a right to say whatever he wants as per Amendment #1, but I think he should be duly criticized whenever he says something like this. Do you disagree?
Norms of behavior vary between fora. Cable TV abides by its code of politeness because it is dependent on national advertising dollars that don't want their brands besmirched by controversy, and because boorish behavior might impede shows' access to celebrity guests.
Talk radio, on the other hand, attracts small-fry national and regional advertising and celebrity guests of a comparable scale, thus it needn't mind its manners as much.
Does Rush deserve censure? On a daily basis, probably. But does his audience care if he's a bigoted prick? Quite the contrary. So I guess I struggle to see the point of belaboring the issue of his bigotry until he starts exhorting his zombie army to murder Jews or something. It's not like the Chinese Premier gives a shit -- he has the satisfaction of knowing he owns all of us.
So you see Rush as providing an opening to smear Republicans generally. Interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cry Havoc
Saying so over and over again might not be the most persuasive tack. I'm still pretty unsure what you think it accomplishes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cry Havoc
I thought free speech meant that you didn't need any pretext at all to say whatever you want, in whatever guise. Silly me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cry Havoc
Why not? Satire, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cry Havoc
Just like everyone else Jon Stewart has a free pass to say whatever jackassed thing it pleases him to say, but the audience at large can respond however it wants.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cry Havoc
Filthy? In what respect?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cry Havoc
Absolutely not. Act the jackass, suffer the flames.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cry Havoc
Megadittoes!Quote:
Originally Posted by admiralsnackbar
In my younger years it was considered comedy,Quote:
Originally Posted by Viva Las Espuelas
and many actors or entertainers were noted for
their acts.
Of course that was in the days that we all
considered ourselves as Americans and didn't
worry about hyphenated whatever.
But what do I know. I just try to live here in
peace and harmony while others want to be
offended. I am old, Irish (I guess), proud to
be a native Texan, and think those that want
to be whatever (hyphenated) should return
to you homeland and let the rest of us live in
peace.
And those of you who don't enjoy an ethenic
joke and profess offense at such jokes.....you
are liars. Each and everyone of you.
Do you have some kind of problem with your tab button or are you purposefully making your shit look like stanzas? :wowQuote:
Originally Posted by xrayzebra
All due respect, but just because you can't conceive of something as being true doesn't make it false. You should tell my ex wife a racist joke sometime if you need empirical evidence.Quote:
Originally Posted by xrayzebra
Also, there has never been a time when Americans haven't segregated themselves (or been segregated) according to their ethnic/national origins. As a descendant of Irish immigrants who weren't allowed to forget their provenance for a minute (until the swarthier, less-anglophone Italians came along), you should know that.
Oh, my. My what. What are you doing in myQuote:
Originally Posted by Stringer_Bell
toilet bowl.
Now I will have to flush twice just to get rid of
of the waste.
:lmao
He's a douchebag. What the fuck is that all about. Hilarious thing about it is if someone from another country did that to Americans, he'd go off on a patriotic rant about it
I thought that is what I just said. Oh, well. And whyQuote:
All due respect, but just because you can't conceive of something as being true doesn't make it false.
should I tell you ex anything. Obviously you tried and
failed......LOL
TMI.Quote:
Originally Posted by xrayzebra
I have detected no flush mechanism here, and I believe you were already familiar with the hazards when you dipped down into the thread yourself. :rollin
It would seem so. The sentimental appeal to the frank bigotry of simpler times is undeniably there. Stuff like Rush's impression of Hu Jintao is practically a dog whistle for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
I believe you owe Rush a thank you note for giving us all a concrete demonstration of the social respectability and esteem ignorant prejudice still claims in the USA, CH.
Why sugarcoat it?
You must be drunk. It happens :toastQuote:
Originally Posted by xrayzebra
If you were offended with that ^^^ then please don't click this link. Oh heavens no.
http://www.southparkstudios.com/full...ned-fetus-lady
BTW, what do you guys think of this?
Quote:
WH Says Anti-American Song Played During State Dinner Was Not an Insult
Ivories that were tickled last Wednesday night at the White House are, to some conservative media, no laughing matter. At the White House State Dinner for Chinese President Hu Jintao, pianist Lang Lang played, among other ditties, the song “My Motherland.” My Motherland was written for the 1956 Chinese war film “Battle on Shangganling Mountain,” about the Korean War, in which the People’s Republic of China soldiers are the heroes and the bad guys are Americans…White House spokesman Tommy Vietor told ABC News that “any suggestion that this was an insult to the United States is just flat wrong. As Lang Lang has stated before, he plays this song regularly because it is one of his favorite Chinese melodies, which is very widely known and popular in China for its melody. Lang Lang played the song without lyrics or reference to any political themes during the entertainment portion of the State Dinner. He simply stated the song’s title and noted it was well known in China.”
http://nation.foxnews.com/china-stat...was-not-insult