Suicide bomber kills 35+, wounds 130+ in Russian airport

Slomo is right: "terrorism" can be extremely effective at increasing costs.
To the point when the gross part of the GDP that goes into maintaining a largely useless security apparatus is simply unbearable.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by xrayzebra

I am just so worried about the people behind this act.
Will the get their civil rights in Russia.

boutons, can you please advise us on this.....

---

boutons response would most likely consist of "civil rights? YOU LIE! repugs are propping up the russian govt for pitbull bitch's run at the presidency of this morally bankrupt country, i laugh at you and spit on your graves."

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by temujin

I suggest the senitive, curious and intelligent among you -there might be some-
to watch
Nikita Mikhalkov's movie

12 (The jury).

Thereater, you can judge, perhaps.


Incidentally, the "knife dance" scene is one of my favoured movies scenes of all time.

For all the others, war on terrorism etch is just fine.

---

Looked it up and am interested. 12 angry men was a pretty influential film for me when I was a teenager so I'd like to see what this directors take on it is.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Cry Havoc

How many countries in the world don't have similar blood on their hands?

---

There are plenty of us, thank you very much.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Cry Havoc

How many countries in the world don't have similar blood on their hands?

---

They all do it. You really went there. :lol

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Cry Havoc

Seriously, if terrorists were to target every country who had questionable dealing, bombs would explode in every country on Earth on a daily basis.

---

Given the regrettably flawed character of all countries, the relative infrequency of terrorist acts should be considered a clue as to the true scale of the problem. It's been tragically overblown.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Cry Havoc

It's ridiculous to say that, "Well, there have been questionable/bad decisions made by country X, so that's why..."

---

It's ridiculous to suggest terroristic violence targets unpopular or controversial policies? Really?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Cry Havoc

Every country, if held to standards of, "You aren't allowed to fuck up or kill people ever" would fail and fail miserably. Every. Single. Nation.

---

Thank God it is not so. All that Manny suggested, I believe, is that policy can have unintended consequences.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Cry Havoc

That does not excuse what Russia has been doing, it is merely a fact that humanity is deeply flawed, and most governments are unfit to govern from such a perspective, because they will always start wars, kill people, etc.

---

Seems like you're trying to the make the perfect the enemy of the good. If a government of men predictably falls short of perfection, that is no good reason to be lax about accountability, whether moral, legal or political.

While it is probably true that terrorism inhabits a moral vacuum, it does take place in a political universe, in some determinate political context.

Historical context and specificity do not justify terrorism, but they do condition the act and its interpretation. Context and history have explanatory mojo.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Cry Havoc

What are you saying, boutons? Don't ask questions in response, it's passive-aggressive. Be a man. Say what you mean.

---

So I really gotta spell it out?

dubya, dickhead, and their neo-con mob lied the US into Iraq to grab the oil. Several 100K people are dead as a direct result, and are still dying. Murdering (civilian) people for economic gain is as terrorizing as is murdering people for political/religious reasons.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by boutons_deux

So I really gotta spell it out?

---

Tone deaf. CH was being facetious.

BTW, when do we grab the Iraqi oil? The pesky Iraqis keep giving the big development contracts to other countries.

"when do we grab the Iraqi oil"

incompetence and impotence were two of the many Enduring Signatures of the Repugs' Reign of Error.

So they should have grabbed the oil?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by boutons_deux

"when do we grab the Iraqi oil"

incompetence and impotence were two of the many Enduring Signatures of the Repugs' Reign of Error.

---

Impotence? IIRC they had no problem fucking this country.

bullies are dickless

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by boutons_deux

bullies are dickless

---

no, heifers are dickless.

If bomber turns out to be Muslim, it is pure coincidence.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by DarrinS

If bomber turns out to be Muslim, it is pure coincidence.

---

:lmao

Darrin's been waiting on the edge of his seat for the name "al-Muhammed" to appear as the attacker's name, and he couldn't wait any longer.

Nice give-up. Bigot.

.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Spurminator

:lmao

Darrin's been waiting on the edge of his seat for the name "al-Muhammed" to appear as the attacker's name, and he couldn't wait any longer.

Nice give-up. Bigot.

---

You expect his name to be John Smith? Quit lying to yourself.

^^^ your fantasy, funboy. Hope it was fun!




(For me it was totally obtuse, in an almost humorous way)

How does John Smith enter into it? I didn't get that. I still don't get that.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Winehole23

How does John Smith enter into it? I didn't get that. I still don't get that.

---

I think he meant that you shouldn't expect the terrorist to have a "white", "Christian" name.




Cause we all know that the only person on this board that supports terrorism is boutons.

let me get this straight- russian civilians are killed by chechnyan terrorists and its russia's fault for "mishandling" chechnya (which is at least part of their own country), but American civilians are killed by saudi terrorists and its iraq and radical islam's fault for having WMD and hate for freedom loving westerners. gotcha. (I know not everyone thinks like this, but this thread has posts that smell of it)



and no, not EVERY. SINGLE. COUNTRY. is guilty of state violence. AFAIK New Zealand or Singapore havent bombed other countries/their own people, then have to deal with terrorist retribution. maybe every world/regional power, but not every country / government needs to kill people domestic or foreign in order to grow.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by johnsmith

I think he meant that you shouldn't expect the terrorist to have a "white", "Christian" name.

---

I don't expect that. If the attack was related to the Chechen conflict, there's a high probability the attacker was Muslim. That doesn't mean I'm going to take alternate routes to work to avoid passing by a mosque.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by johnsmith

I think he meant that you shouldn't expect the terrorist to have a "white", "Christian" name.

---

OIC. Thanks, johnsmith.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by diego

let me get this straight- russian civilians are killed by chechnyan terrorists

---

Speculated, not established. Preliminary info does not implicate Chechens.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by diego

and its russia's fault for "mishandling" chechnya (which is at least part of their own country), but American civilians are killed by saudi terrorists and its iraq and radical islam's fault for having WMD and hate for freedom loving westerners. gotcha.

---

Is there something wrong with having things both ways? It's commonly done in this forum. :hat