Reminder: Rick Perry wants to keep government out of your medical affairs.........

........unless of course you want to have a legal abortion in which case Perry wants the government to get involved in your medical affairs.



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Receiving the day's loudest and longest applause from thousands rallying against abortion, Gov. Rick Perry announced Saturday that he will designate as emergency legislation a bill requiring women seeking an abortion to first receive a sonogram of the fetus.

Viewing an image from the womb and listening to the sound of the heartbeat — also required under the legislation — would ensure that each woman "understands the full impact of her decision, a decision that can scar her" physically and emotionally, Perry said.

"When someone has all the information, the right choice will be made — the choice for life," Perry told the crowd outside the Capitol.

Saturday's Texas Rally for Life began with a downtown march — chanting, praying, singing and sign-toting protesters stretched more than seven blocks on streets closed to traffic — and ended at the Capitol's south steps, where Department of Public Safety troopers said they were told to expect a crowd of 4,000 to 5,000.

Bishop Joe Vasquez, head of the Austin Catholic Diocese, launched the rally with a prayer, saying, "We recommit ourselves in our efforts to change the law and provide protection for the most vulnerable ... the unborn."

Perry grew emotional recalling the impact of Roe v. Wade, the U.S. Supreme Court decision on abortion on Jan. 22, 1973.

"Since then, 50 million children have lost their chances," Perry said. "That is a catastrophic number, twice the population of this entire state."

The sonogram issue joins four other priorities Perry has designated for fast-track approval in the legislative session that began Jan. 11 — all dear to the Republican base and tea party members.

Perry also has called for a crackdown on so-called sanctuary cities for illegal immigrants, legislation to strengthen property-owner rights, tougher voter identification requirements at the polls and a resolution telling Congress to pass a balanced-budget amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

Democrats say Perry is using the issues as a distraction from news that Texas is $27 billion short of the money needed to continue current government services over the next two years. Bracing for budget cuts, public schools across the state are poised to lay off thousands of employees and close campuses, while doctors warn that proposed cuts could cause many physicians to stop seeing patients who are on Medicaid.

But on Saturday, Perry said the sonogram bill and other state efforts to limit access to abortion are essential to help women "before they make the biggest mistake of their lives."

Legislators cannot vote on bills during the first 60 days of a session unless they are declared an emergency by the governor.

Similar bills, introduced by Sen. Dan Patrick, R-Houston , passed the Senate in 2007 and 2009 but died in the House. With the emergency designation, Patrick predicted that his sonogram bill will become law this year.

"This is not a partisan issue. Protecting the lives of the unborn is a God issue," Patrick told the rally.

Sara Cleveland, executive director of NARAL Pro-Choice Texas , criticized Perry for attempting to interfere in doctor-patient relationships.

"It never ceases to amaze me what an unprincipled political opportunist our governor is. He's spent the past year decrying government interference in health care, but when it comes to interfering in women's health care, suddenly it's an emergency," Cleveland said.

"The government has no place in a doctor's office," she added.

Patrick's Senate Bill 16, and identical House legislation by Rep. Geanie Morrison, R-Victoria , would require pregnant women to receive a sonogram at least two hours before an abortion.

A doctor would have to explain the picture, pointing out internal organs, extremities and cardiac activity. If audible, the sound of the heartbeat also would have to be played.

Before receiving an abortion, the woman would have to sign a document acknowledging that she received the sonogram information and "understands the nature and consequences of an abortion," according to the bills.

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Additional material from staff writer Jason Embry.

http://www.statesman.com/news/texas-...n-1203152.html

I hope that fucker runs for senate. He'd be obliterated and we'd finally rid ourselves of that buffoon.

We should put abortion up for a vote. Let the people decide if they want to kill unborn children!

JK, abortion is protected, still not sure why there's such a debate over it. I don't agree with it, you shouldn't fuck anything you aren't 100% into having a child with even if its on accident. Yet all the same, it's a woman's right to choose and the hypocrisy put forth by these politicians is fucking ridiculous.

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I hope that fucker runs for senate. He'd be obliterated and we'd finally rid ourselves of that buffoon.

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sad thing is he probably has a better shot at eventually running for POTUS

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Originally Posted by Blake

sad thing is he probably has a better shot at eventually running for POTUS

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I dunno. I figure Bush poisoned the electorate for several decades. It'll be awhile before another Tx. Gov. gets elected.:lol

I think we should have Rick Perry personally have a conversation with every death row inmate that is killed on his watch.

What a fucking asshole.

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Originally Posted by Stringer_Bell

We should put abortion up for a vote. Let the people decide if they want to kill unborn children!

JK, abortion is protected, still not sure why there's such a debate over it. I don't agree with it, you shouldn't fuck anything you aren't 100% into having a child with even if its on accident. Yet all the same, it's a woman's right to choose and the hypocrisy put forth by these politicians is fucking ridiculous.

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Agreed. I'll never be a party to an abortion, but that's my choice. Regardless of whether or not you believe it should be legal, it is. If you want to change the law, that's one thing. Go ahead and try. But getting the government involved in trying to talk people out of doing something that's completely legal is nothing more than a waste of resources during a time when resources are hard to come by.

You know, if this was a matter of requiring that clinics give the woman the OPTION of seeing the sonogram first (which they probably have anyway), I wouldn't have as much of a problem with it. "You have to right to view a sonogram in preparation for this decision." No big deal there.

But you're seriously going to mandate that the woman be forced to see the sonogram, even if she doesn't want to, before she exercises her right to an abortion?

That's pretty fucked up.

P.S. Thread prediction: 11 pages.

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I dunno. I figure Bush poisoned the electorate for several decades. It'll be awhile before another Tx. Gov. gets elected.:lol

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I can't see Perry winning a presidential election, but I can see him winning a republican primary.

Perry just doing his best to make situations like this dont' go anywhere:

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=170743

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Perry just doing his best to make situations like this dont' go anywhere:

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=170743

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Holy fuck.

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P.S. Thread prediction: 11 pages.

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I think that's a generous prediction. No one is stupid enough to side with Perry once this gets to 5 pages.

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I think that's a generous prediction. No one is stupid enough to side with Perry once this gets to 5 pages.

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Oh I don't know. We'll see how quickly Crookshanks can get here. I promise you she agrees with this action by Perry.

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Perry just doing his best to make situations like this dont' go anywhere:

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=170743

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I'll side with Perry on that one. What a sick fuck.

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I'll side with Perry on that one. What a sick fuck.

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Huh? I'm pretty sure everyone thinks that guy is a sick fuck but the ultimate result of making legal abortions harder is a rise in illegal abortions.

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I think that's a generous prediction. No one is stupid enough to side with Perry once this gets to 5 pages.

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Yonivore hasn't started posting yet.

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Huh? I'm pretty sure everyone thinks that guy is a sick fuck but the ultimate result of making legal abortions harder is a rise in illegal abortions.

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My bad. Misunderstood your point. I agree with you.

The Federal govt has already "taken over health care" with Medicare, Medicaid, and Tristar/VA all of which get much higher marks for satisfaction than for-profit health insurers that charge the highest price for the shittiest product (health care).

Perry is just doing the usual pandering ignorant TX bubbas, many of whom already have had the rural telephone service, and sometime electricity service, subsidized socialistically for decades by the Feds and urbanites.

As Perry Bashed Recovery Act, Texas Relied Most Heavily On Recovery Act Funds To Fill Budget Hole

Turns out Texas was the state that depended the most on those very stimulus funds to plug nearly 97% of its shortfall for fiscal 2010, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. Texas, which crafts a budget every two years, was facing a $6.6 billion shortfall for its 2010-2011 fiscal years. It plugged nearly all of that deficit with $6.4 billion in Recovery Act money, allowing it to leave its $9.1 billion rainy day fund untouched.

http://thinkprogress.org/2011/01/24/perry-arra-97/

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I think we should have Rick Perry personally have a conversation with every death row inmate that is killed on his watch.

What a fucking asshole.

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I will volunteer to fill in for him. You wanna
go with me and tell them how we have screwed
over the poor guy being given the needle.

And then afterwords we will have coffee with the
victims family.

Okay!

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Originally Posted by Stringer_Bell

We should put abortion up for a vote. Let the people decide if they want to kill unborn children!

JK, abortion is protected, still not sure why there's such a debate over it. I don't agree with it, you shouldn't fuck anything you aren't 100% into having a child with even if its on accident. Yet all the same, it's a woman's right to choose and the hypocrisy put forth by these politicians is fucking ridiculous.

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Agreed, the vote is already out there in the form of the person choosing to have the abortion or not. The rest is pandering to the crowd.

This is truly an area where the government should stay out of the equation.

Abortion? I'm glad I never had to face the question.

But do think I should make the decision for someone else? NO WAY!!

I have never understood how people who claim to be in favor of 'less government' are in fact in favor of government deciding what women should do with their own bodies.

Never could understand that.

Are you in favor of limited government or not? That is the issue.

This is one of the issues that make me give up on Republicans.

Once you say that government should decide things like this, you say that governmnet can decide anything, so don't pretend to be against big government.

Oppose abortion all you want.

Oppose it with reason or faith.

Just don't oppose it with politics.