Hawaii Governor Admits No Birth Record Exists For Obama In Hawaii

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

This shit just won't go away, will it? Now, there are 10 states considering proof of eligibility legislation - that will be in place by 2012.

And, according to the Constitution, it's the States that select the electors based on whatever method they deem appropriate. Should be an interesting election cycle.

:lmao

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That would be a good change. However, we cannot impose "ex post facto" laws. Now if they pass such a law before the filing deadline for the 2012 elections... That could be interesting!

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Originally Posted by lazerelmo

Yes. He did. :stirpot:

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No, that was hearsay.

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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra

That would be a good change. However, we cannot impose "ex post facto" laws. Now if they pass such a law before the filing deadline for the 2012 elections... That could be interesting!

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Alrighty then.

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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra

No shit, one of the few things we seem to agree on.

Guys...

I really wish we could show he wasn't a US born citizen, but we can't. There is no evidence any more credible than those used by conspiracy theorists. Honestly... I wish we could make most or all legislation, signed into law by him, null and void.

There is an interesting theory out there that they are purposely withholding proof of his citizenship just because of the "birthers." The more you guys talk and get sidetracked over an issue you can never win, the more they blindside us with other stuff.

Think about it.

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I don't even fucking care. I just hope it keeps somebody in this administration dancing as fast as they can...

And, if it ends up causing Obama heartburn, more the better.

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

It won't go away because, it's still in the news and seems to be gaining steam..with this bumbling Hawaii Governor and the states that seem to be contemplating making future candidates pony up the proof.

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What news is this still in?
What bumbling Hawaii Governor? Do you have a direct quote from him? Let's see it.

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

And, to whom does he "show proof of eligibility before running?"

Just curious.

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The Federal Election Commission. Where all candidates have to register in order to run for federal elections?

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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra

No shit, one of the few things we seem to agree on.

Guys...

I really wish we could show he wasn't a US born citizen, but we can't. There is no evidence any more credible than those used by conspiracy theorists. Honestly... I wish we could make most or all legislation, signed into law by him, null and void.

There is an interesting theory out there that they are purposely withholding proof of his citizenship just because of the "birthers." The more you guys talk and get sidetracked over an issue you can never win, the more they blindside us with other stuff.

Think about it.

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Congress makes laws, not the executive. Unless it's the TARP we're talking about...

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

I don't even fucking care. I just hope it keeps somebody in this administration dancing as fast as they can...

And, if it ends up causing Obama heartburn, more the better.

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Why would he have any heartburn since he's an American citizen?
More like giving him a good laugh.

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Originally Posted by ElNono

Why would he have any heartburn since he's an American citizen?
More like giving him a good laugh.

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Okay.

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Originally Posted by ElNono

Congress makes laws, not the executive. Unless it's the TARP we're talking about...

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It's still not law until signed by the president. If he was a false president, what would that mean?

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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra

It's still not law until signed by the president. If he was a false president, what would that mean?

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But he isn't a false president, so why would that matter?

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Originally Posted by ElNono

But he isn't a false president, so why would that matter?

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Do you know what "IF" means?

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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra

It's still not law until signed by the president. If he was a false president, what would that mean?

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Biden would sign it?

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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra

Do you know what "IF" means?

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There's no IF. He was eligible. Again, you don't just run by announcing it on a newspaper. You have to register and provide documentation to federal authorities before you can actually be a candidate.

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Originally Posted by ElNono

There's no IF. He was eligible. Again, you don't just run by announcing it on a newspaper. You have to register and provide documentation to federal authorities before you can actually be a candidate.

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To which federal authorities does one provide this documentation and what documentation do these federal authorities require?

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

To which federal authorities does one provide this documentation and what documentation do these federal authorities require?

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Here, all you need to know about federal candidate registration:
http://www.fec.gov/ans/answers_candidate.shtml#register

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Originally Posted by ElNono

Here, all you need to know about federal candidate registration:
http://www.fec.gov/ans/answers_candidate.shtml#register

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Not readily apparent, in the few forms I reviewed, that a candidate has to prove eligibility for anything more than receiving federal funds to campaign.

You're the expert, what does a candidate have to provide the FEC in order to prove eligibility for the office President?

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

Not readily apparent, in the few forms I reviewed, that a candidate has to prove eligibility for anything more than receiving federal funds to campaign.

You're the expert, what does a candidate have to provide the FEC in order to prove eligibility for the office President?

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Where did I claim to be an expert, Yoni?

I claimed candidates need to register with the FEC and provide documentation. That's factually accurate.

Challenges to his eligibility have been filed in different lawsuits and dismissed. What else you need to know? I'm still waiting for the direct quote from the Hawaii Governor...

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Originally Posted by ElNono

There's no IF. He was eligible. Again, you don't just run by announcing it on a newspaper. You have to register and provide documentation to federal authorities before you can actually be a candidate.

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Is it eligibility documentation?

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

Is it eligibility documentation?

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According to rulings on the subject, eligibility verification can only be requested by Congress (per the 12th amendment). That's the reason lawsuits by individuals have no standing.

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

I don't even fucking care. I just hope it keeps somebody in this administration dancing as fast as they can...

And, if it ends up causing Obama heartburn, more the better.

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I just palmed my face completely off.:depressed

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

I don't even fucking care. I just hope it keeps somebody in this administration dancing as fast as they can...

And, if it ends up causing Obama heartburn, more the better.

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I don't even fucking care. I hope this retarded issue keeps getting attached to the right wing in this country, so they have to continually admit they have some real retards in their midst.

and, if it ends up causing you to look more like one of those idiots attempting to push this issue, more the better.

on top of everything, yoni is a birther. lol

It must be big news if it's on patroitupdate.com!!!

Hawaii Gov. Abercrombie's Health Director Quits

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/...n7288553.shtml


Smart move. he knew way to much.

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Originally Posted by lazerelmo

Smart move. he knew way to much.

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Did you miss this:

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Palafox, 58, said he was surprised when he heard TV news reports citing anonymous sources claiming he was under investigation for medical billing fraud.

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