Bill O'Reilly gives his "premium" members an insightful treat!

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Originally Posted by LnGrrrR

So you're telling me that we went from nothing to Windows 7? That software programmer must've been pretty smart to not reference any previous forms of OS.

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God's work shouldn't be considered as anything more than Windows 95A tbh.

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Originally Posted by LnGrrrR

So you're telling me that we went from nothing to Windows 7? That software programmer must've been pretty smart to not reference any previous forms of OS.

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LOL...

Wouldn't that be called "Intelligent design?"

Though...

I seldom refer to engineers as intelligent. They fuck up so many things, unless they were first a technician.

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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra

LOL...

Wouldn't that be called "Intelligent design?"

Though...

I seldom refer to engineers as intelligent. They fuck up so many things, unless they were first a technician.

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I was just making a joke on DarrinS analogy.

It's possible to have "order" without it being designed by someone. Look at the way molecules form. They all have specific structures, by all means looking very "ordered". But that's due to the way the atoms interlock. There are other exampes of order, like crystal lattices. But that doesn't mean that someone "designs" those things by hand.

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Originally Posted by LnGrrrR

I was just making a joke on DarrinS analogy.

It's possible to have "order" without it being designed by someone. Look at the way molecules form. They all have specific structures, by all means looking very "ordered". But that's due to the way the atoms interlock. There are other exampes of order, like crystal lattices. But that doesn't mean that someone "designs" those things by hand.

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I could go so far as to think that the "rules of the game" are determined by some design. If one structures a deck of cards the way they are now, a royal flush, although highly improbable for any ONE given hand, is a certainty given enough time.

I suppose it is possible some creator structured the rules of the physical universe such that life, although highly improbable for any given star/planet, is a certainty given enough time. I can't discount that.

In that, I would almost agree with Mr. O'Reilly. Where did those rules come from?

If they had not come out that way, we would not be here to discuss it.

Even then it appears as if those rules were themselves randomly determined, and that there might exist other universes with different rules, and consequently, no life as we know it.

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Originally Posted by RandomGuy

In that, I would almost agree with Mr. O'Reilly. Where did those rules come from?

If they had not come out that way, we would not be here to discuss it.

Even then it appears as if those rules were themselves randomly determined, and that there might exist other universes with different rules, and consequently, no life as we know it.

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Why must the rules be structured and planned out?

What if the universe just ended up this way, "that's just how the marbles fell"....?

you said it yourself. if there is another universe, the rules could all be different and it's just a matter of elements positioning themselves and things happening in a certain way through chance...

it's really fucking lazy to start crediting shit to some fairy tale.

Science does NOT acknowledge ANYTHING that cannot be proven or observed and tested/confirmed. In this way, Science and religion can NEVER co-exist and the very idea of a "Christian Scientist" reminds me of someone who wears a helmet on the bus to school.

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Originally Posted by DarrinS

Didn't say it did.


I find both extremes of this debate (non-theistic evotionists and young Earth creationists) intellectually lazy.

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Are you joking?

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Originally Posted by MiamiHeat

Why must the rules be structured and planned out?

What if the universe just ended up this way, "that's just how the marbles fell"....?

you said it yourself. if there is another universe, the rules could all be different and it's just a matter of elements positioning themselves and things happening in a certain way through chance...

it's really fucking lazy to start crediting shit to some fairy tale.

Science does NOT acknowledge ANYTHING that cannot be proven or observed and tested/confirmed. In this way, Science and religion can NEVER co-exist and the very idea of a "Christian Scientist" reminds me of someone who wears a helmet on the bus to school.

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As I said, I don't know, nor would I bother speculating how the laws of physics for our universe determined.

Random (HA!) determination is as supported by the evidence available as anything else, to my understanding.

Ah Atheism.....being pissed for some reason I'll never understand for years and years to come.

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Originally Posted by johnsmith

Ah Atheism.....being pissed for some reason I'll never understand for years and years to come.

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Not quite sure what you're trying to say. Do you think all atheists are pissed?

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Originally Posted by LnGrrrR

Not quite sure what you're trying to say. Do you think all atheists are pissed?

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