Have you noticed your dishes aren't as clean?

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

More wrong or more paranoid? Hard to tell.

Hell, some detergent companies even brag about being environmentally conscious right on the bottle. It's an effing selling point.

:rollin

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It's only a selling point to greentards.

Environmental interests? More like complying with the law...

Sixteen states have enacted a law that requires phosphorus-free household detergents starting July 1, 2010, including: Illinois, Indiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Montana, New Hampshire, Ohio, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington (State), Wisconsin.

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Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant

So there's a readily available product that will address the change in the primary product brought about by the change in regulation of phosphate.

Yes, of all the activities of the warfare/welfare state to complain about, this is weak sauce, especially with the market already offering a solution at hand.

This thread, however, speaks to some significant matters in American society. The first is the lure of mass consumerism, and its attendant lulling of Americans into a state of perpetual adolescence. A response I can see is that after busting your ass for 60+ hours a week to pay for all this shit, you want your fing dishwasher that you paid for to work. Still, the things you used to take care of yourself you now expect to expend little effort or thought handling. Instead of figuring out how to fix something, you buy another one or you hire someone to fix it for you. Convenient, of course. But something is lost in the process. Perhaps it is self-respect. Maybe it's just the satisfaction that comes from figuring out how something works. We live in the wealthiest nation on Earth, with the store of human knowledge at our fingertips and...we don't know how to do shit for ourselves. Don't you feel a little fucking stupid when you have to hire someone to come check your A/C unit instead of being able to take care of it yourself? After all, you probably could if you bothered to do so. Anyways.

The second is the absolute politicization of American life, coupled with hyperbolic ideological purity. I'll leave it at that.

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Actually, no. It's a matter of what your time is worth. For example, almost everyone knows how to change their oil, but I'll bet you that most people pay someone else to do it.

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Originally Posted by DarrinS

It's only a selling point to greentards.

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The ones you blame your dirty dishes on. You mentioned them earlier. Is there something else you'd like to say about them?

darrins should have his thread starting ability suspended..he's reaching yonivore status when it comes to starting irrelevent threads...

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darrins should have his thread starting ability suspended..he's reaching yonivore status when it comes to starting irrelevent threads...

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oh, I don't know. I'm glad this thread is here, because I had no idea why my glasses were super filmy all of a sudden. It never clicked that it must have been the new Cascade I bought.
Now due to this thread, I know why my dishes are dirty, and I have to buy second product (lemi-shine) to clean my dishes, since the main product (cascade) doesn't work any more.

I learn something every day on ST. I'm not wasting my time, no...

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

The ones you blame your dirty dishes on. You mentioned them earlier. Is there something else you'd like to say about them?

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Was there another reason to take out the ingredient that makes detergent work?

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Originally Posted by Bender

oh, I don't know. I'm glad this thread is here, because I had no idea why my glasses were super filmy all of a sudden. It never clicked that it must have been the new Cascade I bought.

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I didn't know, either. It's actually quite a relief to know the cause.

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Originally Posted by GGA

darrins should have his thread starting ability suspended..

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And miss out on all the laffs? Crazy talk!

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Originally Posted by DarrinS

Was there another reason to take out the ingredient that makes detergent work?

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I have a suggestion..try a different detergent

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Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro

I have a suggestion..try a different detergent

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Gee, thanks Captain Obvious.

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Originally Posted by DarrinS

Was there another reason to take out the ingredient that makes detergent work?

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Dunno. Was there?

(besides the ones already mentioned upstream, of course)

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Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro

I have a suggestion..try a different detergent

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Or for about $3 he could buy a pound of TSP (trisodium phosphate) and just use around a 1/4 teaspoon of it along with his detergent.

I use plastic plates, and cups that way I don't have to worry about my dish soap harming the environment.

:stirpot:

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

I've got three dishwashers in my house. Used to have four but, one of them is serving in the military and no longer available at meal time.

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Nice one. :lol What branch?

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Originally Posted by Bender

I thought something was wrong with my d/w a while back. all of a sudden, bad film all over everything. Had to start using that Lemi-Shine stuff in addition to cascade (stuff works great).

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I've been using this stuff since they came out with it, and yes, it makes a big difference! I also put a little bit of Magic Shine in the bottom of the dishwasher as it helps also with hard water build up.

However, even with all this, sometimes my dishes don't come out as clean as they used to.