Michele Bachman believes Glenn Beck can solve the debt crisis...

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Originally Posted by LnGrrrR

Maybe you wrote the above wrong, but you made it sound like problems caused by Bush were allegations, but problems caused by Clinton were actual problems.

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Well, I can't recall blaming anything on Clinton for some time but, yeah, all this gnashing of teeth over "inherited problems" form Bush is just a bunch of nonsense. Exactly what did Obama "inherit" that he hasn't completed fucked up?

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

Well, I can't recall blaming anything on Clinton for some time but, yeah, all this gnashing of teeth over "inherited problems" form Bush is just a bunch of nonsense. Exactly what did Obama "inherit" that he hasn't completed fucked up?

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Eh, I'm not going to get involved in that argument. Bush has some responsibility for problems that are occuring now, and Obama has some responsibility. Obama has some responsibility for new problems, as well.

It was great when the Republicans fixed everything in 2001-2007.

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Originally Posted by LnGrrrR

Eh, I'm not going to get involved in that argument. Bush has some responsibility for problems that are occuring now, and Obama has some responsibility. Obama has some responsibility for new problems, as well.

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I believe he also voted for the TARP bailout...in fact, I seem to recall he was lobbying then President Bush for it. Not that that relieves Bush of his responsibility for signing that piece of crap but, the Democrats were partners -- Obama lead among them.

Obama Asks Bush to Seek TARP Funds From Congress

He inherited his own problem...and, then, he made it worse.

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

I believe he also voted for the TARP bailout...in fact, I seem to recall he was lobbying then President Bush for it. Not that that relieves Bush of his responsibility for signing that piece of crap but, the Democrats were partners -- Obama lead among them.

Obama Asks Bush to Seek TARP Funds From Congress

He inherited his own problem...and, then, he made it worse.

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I remember a majority of Republicans in both houses voting for TARP too....Obama voted against it...

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Originally Posted by Nbadan

I remember a majority of Republicans in both houses voting for TARP too....Obama voted against it...

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That's right, he voted for the $700 Billion Wall Street bailout. He only asked for the TARP money to be waiting for him when he took office...

yoni, do you ever know what you are talking about?

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

Not many bought the "it's Bush's fault" meme, early on. Now, I think it's down to just a few pricks in the media and on Spurstalk.com.

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Yep, there are a few really dumb pricks here.

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Originally Posted by Nbadan

I remember a majority of Republicans in both houses voting for TARP too....Obama voted against it...

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I don't remember if he voted against it or not, but the final vote was after an amendment that said that paid back money could only be used to pay the debt back down. If Obama could have had the money to spend when paid back, then I'll bet a majority of republicans would have voted NO, and Obama would have voted YES.