Religion of Peace attempts...

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

Hey there Mr. Vice President!

Yeah, I'm the bigot.

The fact there have been numerous incidents involving Islamic Extremist terrorists, in the United States, since that 1999 statement -- Congressional testimony, actually -- tends to support there is source for this extremism in our country.

Continue to live in denial. They want to kill you too.

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Being afraid that brown people with beards want to blow you up is like being black man who is afraid that the manager at American Eagle is going to put him to work on the cotton farm. It's irrational. Terrorists aren't caught by average citizens that walk around fearing the threat of extremism will engulf their country, their malls, and their homes...these terrorists are stupid and ineffectual.

Think of all the shit you can't stand, the shit that upsets you and frustrates you into believing the world is terrible place...you can't raise your fist to it, put a bomb on it, and its the same with the vast majority of people with intellectually motivated Anti-American sentiments. They ain't doing shit even though they're saying shit. The crazy ones, on the other hand, will be caught - are being caught, because they aren't operating within normal ranges of behavior and give themselves away or are too fucking stupid to do anything right. Jihad is not "Holy War," it's not the in Worship. Murdering is not Islam and you are not observant. And you are not a Muslim.

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

Never said that.

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

It's not like they wear name tags.

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

Yes, that's occurred to me. Can you point to an instance when this has occurred?

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I don't think police reveals the identity of who gives them tips. That obviously doesn't automatically mean it doesn't happen.

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

Nothing. This Lubbock Jihadi apparently fit right in. Hassan was getting his extremism fed to him over the internet. The 19 hijackers of 9-11 spent a great deal of time trying to blend in before the act.

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Exactly. So we can't really tell them apart at first sight. Should we fear them all then?

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

Your initial response is to dismiss the concern as some type of Right wing phobia. It's obvious, the threat is real. It's just as obvious there doesn't seem to be a concerted effort on the part of our government or the moderate Muslim community to even acknowledge the danger -- much less do anything about it, except criticize those who express the concern as Islamophobes.

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My initial response was tongue-in-cheek. I think the irrational fear of anything Muslim goes far beyond the left or right.
We started this back and forth after pointing out that the thread title seemed to engulf all Muslims, not just the extremist.

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

Where did I suggest all Muslims are extremists?

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The thread title? Now, relabeled as sarcasm...

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

Denial seems to work for you just fine.

Thank God there are law enforcement elements who aren't in denial and are willing to sift through the mountains of leads that allow them to stop Jihadis such as the one they caught today.

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I commend the work LE has done to identify and stop these people. Then again, that's their job, right?

Feel free to call it denial or whatever you want. I simply call it not to being scared.

I guess we'll agree to disagree on this one.

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

Where did I suggest all Muslims are extremists?

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Thread title, you fucking idiot.

Wait, what religion is the religion of peace again? Is that the one that talks about bombing whatever middle eastern country doesn't agree with us?

Forgive me, being an atheist, I get these religions mixed up from time to time.

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

Do you reject the premise there are Islamic Extremists actively seeking to perpetrate terrorist acts, large or small, on targets within the United States?

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Yoni, do you affirm or reject the premise that there are Christian extremists actively seeking to perpetrate terrorist acts, large or small, on targets within the United States?

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

A California Imam testified, in 1999, that 80% of American Mosques were radicalized.

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Ppffft you know those Imams. They'll say anything to get on the news. They're kinda like Lt Colonels in that way.

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

It wouldn't hurt for the moderate Muslims to expose the radical, extremists Mosques and Imams. That would probably differentiate the two groups with a fairly bright line.

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Maybe those moderate Muslims should do something to reach out to the community. Maybe they should build a mosque or something... perhaps in NYC? I seem to remember hearing something about that... :lol

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

Not the point.

Your attitude suggests the concerns over Islamic extremists are unfounded. Does the country have to be completely destroyed before you would change that view?

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My attitude is that this is not anything close to the seriousness of the Cold War, all of your fear mongering to the contrary.

And your attitude has done plenty to destroy the country already.

The real risk seems to be what we can do to ourselves when we jump at every single possible threat. you can't eliminate them all.

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That seems to be your absolutist view. Do you reject the premise there are Islamic Extremists actively seeking to perpetrate terrorist acts, large or small, on targets within the United States?

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I reject the premise that I should give a damn.

There Yoni goes again, slandering an entire religion because one 20-year-old kid was gonna WMD on the entire USA.

I can play that game: Congress should have hearings on restraining UCA Christianity, aka The Religion of Christ (that only follows the OLD Testament), because Westboro Baptist Church absolutely typifies all Christians.

scared-shitless dickless Yoni, his anus letting go because of a 20-year old kid.

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Originally Posted by boutons_deux

There Yoni goes again, slandering an entire religion because one 20-year-old kid was gonna WMD on the entire USA.

I can play that game: Congress should have hearings on restraining UCA Christianity, aka The Religion of Christ (that only follows the Christless OLD Testament), because Westboro Baptist Church absolutely typifies all Christians.

scared-shitless dickless Yoni, his anus letting go because of a 20-year old kid.

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great thread yoni.. now we know there are muslim exremists that want to kill us... a few may be in the US..shocking revelation..:rolleyes

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Thread title, you fucking idiot.

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Wait! That's satire!





....for now.

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Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant

Living in Lubbock probably made him nuts.

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+1 My exact reaction when I read about this guy.

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

It would not surprise me if this Jihadi become some cause celeb, of the left, down the road somewhere.

There, I didn't disappoint you, did I?

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I'm sure leftist trial lawyers will be lining up to be the man that got him off. To find a man not guilty who planed to kill a president.

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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra

I'm sure leftist trial lawyers will be lining up to be the man that got him off. To find a man not guilty who planed to kill a president.

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as oppsed to right wing defense attorneys?

One wonders how this thread would have progressed had the accused been kinda WASPy and the president, the current one.

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Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant

My attitude is that this is not anything close to the seriousness of the Cold War, all of your fear mongering to the contrary.

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I don't recall the Communists reducing 2, 110 story buildings to rubble or killing thousands of Americans on our homeland.

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Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant

I reject the premise that I should give a damn.

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Then don't; I suspect you'd be pretty useless anyway.

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Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant

One wonders how this thread would have progressed had the accused been kinda WASPy and the president, the current one.

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If he were a Jihadi, about the same, I suspect.

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

I don't recall the Communists reducing 2, 110 story buildings to rubble or killing thousands of Americans on our homeland.

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It's 9/11 every day. Rejoice!

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Then don't; I suspect you'd be pretty useless anyway.

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This nihilist terrorist threat must be defeated.

a religion, not a 20 year-old douche, planned several attacks across the u.s. btw, kudos to the fbi for catching this idiot. and by idiot I mean Arabs.