Unemployment improved a bit last month but it is still nearly nine percent and the trouble is job creation is so slow, it will be years before we get back the seven and a half million jobs lost in the Great Recession. American families have been falling out of the middle class in record numbers. The combination of lost jobs and millions of foreclosures means a lot of folks are homeless and hungry for the first time in their lives.
One of the consequences of the recession that you don't hear a lot about is the record number of children descending into poverty.
The government considers a family of four to be impoverished if they take in less than $22,000 a year. Based on that standard, and government projections of unemployment, it is estimated the poverty rate for kids in this country will soon hit 25 percent. Those children would be the largest American generation to be raised in hard times since the Great Depression.
In Seminole County, near Orlando, Fla., so many kids have lost their homes that school busses now stop at dozens of cheap motels where families crowd into rooms, living week to week.
They probably trade their food stamps for drugs and the services of prostitutes.
03-08-2011
Wild Cobra
Re: Hard Times Generation - 60 Minutes
Why are their mothers selling their food stamps?
03-08-2011
boutons_deux
Re: Hard Times Generation - 60 Minutes
"Why are their mothers selling their food stamps"
Link? If this exists, how widespread is it? 25% 50% 75% 1%
Or is this yet another LIE from the right-wing, as in all people on unemployment and govt assistance are St Ronnie's welfare queens driving Cadillacs?
03-08-2011
DarrinS
Re: Hard Times Generation - 60 Minutes
Either this group will decide that govt is my nanny and become a loyal Democrat voting block or they will pull themselves up by their bootstraps and become conservatives. The latter is better for our society.
03-08-2011
George Gervin's Afro
Re: Hard Times Generation - 60 Minutes
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Originally Posted by DarrinS
Either this group will decide that govt is my nanny and become a loyal Democrat voting block or they will pull themselves up by their bootstraps and become conservatives. The latter is better for our society.
hey dumbass poor people don't vote.. Jesus Christ you guys are stupid!
03-08-2011
ManuBalboa
Re: Hard Times Generation - 60 Minutes
If you are poor, don't have kids. If you are poor, don't have two kids. If you are poor, don't have three kids. If you are poor, don't have four kids.
03-08-2011
Drachen
Re: Hard Times Generation - 60 Minutes
Manu, agreed, but what if they are upper middle class (family of four and ~80-90k) then both parents lose their jobs?
03-08-2011
Wild Cobra
Re: Hard Times Generation - 60 Minutes
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Originally Posted by boutons_deux
"Why are their mothers selling their food stamps"
Link? If this exists, how widespread is it? 25% 50% 75% 1%
Or is this yet another LIE from the right-wing, as in all people on unemployment and govt assistance are St Ronnie's welfare queens driving Cadillacs?
Just an obvious conclusion.
Mothers get enough food stamps to feed their children. If children are going hungry, they must be selling them for drugs or something.
Remember, my reply was referring to children in the USA going hungry.
03-08-2011
George Gervin's Afro
Re: Hard Times Generation - 60 Minutes
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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
Just an obvious conclusion.
Mothers get enough food stamps to feed their children. If children are going hungry, they must be selling them for drugs or something.
Remember, my reply was referring to children in the USA going hungry.
they probably sell them to buy detergent, clothes, and other things food stamps don't cover.
drugs? of course you'd assume that.
03-08-2011
Marcus Bryant
Re: Hard Times Generation - 60 Minutes
The problem, of course, is that anything resembling a cohesive family structure, or at least a group of adults who can handle the welfare for an extended family including these children is tattered, at best. In the zealous push to maximize individual liberty in this country, the bonds of family and community have been largely destroyed. Whereas once upon a time large swaths of the population could grow up in poverty, but then leave it in a generation (in no small part due to growing up in a tight family), never to return, now we have successive generations mired in it, dependent upon public assistance. Progress.
03-08-2011
Marcus Bryant
Re: Hard Times Generation - 60 Minutes
And this disease does not just affect the poor. We have created virtues out of helplessness, selfishness, and irresponsibility which, imo, are rampant from the top to the bottom of our society.
03-08-2011
Marcus Bryant
Re: Hard Times Generation - 60 Minutes
The destruction of the family was orchestrated to liberate the individual. You have before you the results.
03-08-2011
phxspurfan
Re: Hard Times Generation - 60 Minutes
Isn't living in motels really expensive? I never understood that week-to-week housing and even car payment thing. Who can afford to pay a payment every week?
03-08-2011
boutons_deux
Re: Hard Times Generation - 60 Minutes
"destruction of the family was orchestrated"
... by whom?
... and how would the destroyers benefit?
03-08-2011
DMX7
Re: Hard Times Generation - 60 Minutes
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Originally Posted by boutons_deux
"destruction of the family was orchestrated"
.... by whom?
Don't ask questions. They only get in the way of his delusions.
03-08-2011
Nbadan
Re: Hard Times Generation - 60 Minutes
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Originally Posted by Drachen
Manu, agreed, but what if they are upper middle class (family of four and ~80-90k) then both parents lose their jobs?
If your a family of four making $80- $90k and only one parent loses his/her job...your in trouble...all of the sudden your income is cut in half....the home loan company won't take just half your mortgage....it doesn't take half as much to pay the water, electricity, and car payment.....
....its pretty clear that the wing-nuts have no sympathy for the poor, but now for the middle class tooo
03-08-2011
Nbadan
Re: Hard Times Generation - 60 Minutes
Sam Seder on hard-times generation...
Quote:
Taking a closer look at Florida in particular, the segment focuses on several families who never thought they would be homeless, and the children who perhaps suffer the greatest burden, growing up without a stable dwelling and sometimes going hungry.
Several children are interviewed. Two of the kids describe sneaking into a Wal-Mart bathroom to use the sinks and to clean up before school. One child says she feels that her family's poverty is her fault because her parents have to support her.
Some kids are living with neighbors, some in cars and vans, others in motels. Near Orlando, on the road to Disney World, there are 67 motels that house about 500 homeless kids.
According to CBS and the U.S. Census, 14 million children throughout the nation lived in poverty before the recession hit, and now that number is 16 million -- a 2-million person rise in two years. via twitter
-- Lori Kozlowski L.A. Times
03-09-2011
Capt Bringdown
Re: Hard Times Generation - 60 Minutes
By god, it's all a huge conspiracy. Evil doers plotting against the family structure, turning us all into welfare queens.
If only we all had the good sense to submit to traditional family hierarchies and eternal values, it would all go away!
03-09-2011
Winehole23
Re: Hard Times Generation - 60 Minutes
If that's meant as a lampoon of Marcus, you have a tin ear.
03-09-2011
Marcus Bryant
Re: Hard Times Generation - 60 Minutes
Quote:
Originally Posted by boutons_deux
"destruction of the family was orchestrated"
... by whom?
... and how would the destroyers benefit?
We are.
03-09-2011
TeyshaBlue
Re: Hard Times Generation - 60 Minutes
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Originally Posted by DMX7
Don't ask questions. They only get in the way of his delusions.
Dude, if you ever had a complete, cogent post, it likely died of loneliness years ago.:sleep
03-09-2011
boutons_deux
Re: Hard Times Generation - 60 Minutes
The VRWC is organized, focused, relentless, multi-decade logistics to pile up ungodly wealth and power, to turn the USA into the UCA, to return to the unregulated 1920s where Robber Barons and banks could execute their predataions and exploitation of people and environment without interference.
The intentions, victims, benefits, and (successful) effects are clear.
You have not proved that anyone had a plan or intention to destroy family life.
The loss of family life is a unintentional result of moving from an tribal, agricultural society to an urban, industrial, services, information economy, aided by cheap transportation, mass media, mass communications.
03-09-2011
Capt Bringdown
Re: Hard Times Generation - 60 Minutes
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Originally Posted by Winehole23
If that's meant as a lampoon of Marcus, you have a tin ear.
Oh really, and how did you reach this conclusion if I was so off the mark?