Richard Jefferson month-by-month

of course rj is not gonna get rebounds as a 3. if pop goes small, and he gets to be the 4 then he's gonna be near the paint and get the rebounds. he's out guarding the 3 on the perimeter most of the time.

watch Miami tomorrow. his assignment is gonna be 'Bron. i think he'll at the very least give the brick a hard time.

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Originally Posted by ThePop

WTF happened to those RJ alley oops we used to see in every game?

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teams have scouted and adjusted to prevent that play...they have tired it but the teams big usually rotates and denies the pass.

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Originally Posted by ThePop

WTF happened to those RJ alley oops we used to see in every game?

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pop stopped running that to save it for the playoffs:greedy

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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis

Just for reference... Manu:

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Oct        2        2        34.5        0.424        0.350        1.000        0.5        2.0        2.5        5.0        2.0        0.5        22.5
Nov        15        15        33.0        0.490        0.414        0.899        0.6        3.3        3.9        4.9        2.0        0.4        21.8
Dec        15        15        30.3        0.401        0.337        0.808        0.7        2.9        3.5        4.6        1.4        0.5        15.7
Jan          15          15          30.9          0.415          0.347          0.889          0.9          3.3          4.2          5.1          1.9          0.3          18.4
Feb          12          11          30.1          0.377          0.246          0.855          0.2          3.8          4.0          5.4          1.2          0.3          15.8
Mar        7        7        28.0        0.458        0.324        0.808        0.6        2.4        3.0        5.4        1.4        0.1        15.4

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Oct        2        2        32.5        0.500        0.000        1.000        0.5        3.0        3.5        6.5        1.5        0.0        16.5
Nov        15        15        34.6        0.514        0.444        0.776        0.5        3.1        3.5        7.4        1.8        0.0        17.7
Dec        15        15        32.2        0.516        0.250        0.683        0.3        2.6        2.9        6.7        1.0        0.1        18.1
Jan          15          15          31.6          0.547          0.385          0.877          0.5          2.6          3.1          6.6          1.3          0.0          16.9
Feb        12        12        30.8        0.497        0.375        0.761        0.2        2.7        2.9        5.5        0.8        0.1        15.7
Mar        5        5        30.4        0.547        0.667        0.778        0.2        1.2        1.4        6.0        1.6        0.0        20.0

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Oct        2        2        30.0        0.545        0.000        0.667        1.5        8.0        9.5        2.0        2.0        2.0        15.0
Nov        15        15        29.5        0.475        0.000        0.684        2.9        6.8        9.7        3.4        0.6        1.8        13.9
Dec        15        15        28.3        0.497        0.000        0.789        2.6        6.5        9.1        3.1        0.7        2.0        12.5
Jan          15          15          30.0          0.470          0.000          0.755          2.1          7.3          9.4          2.8          0.7          2.1          14.1
Feb        12        12        27.5        0.511        0.000        0.615        1.9        6.2        8.1        2.0        0.5        2.3        13.2
Mar        7        7        26.3        0.477        0.000        0.739        1.7        7.1        8.9        2.0        0.7        1.1        11.3

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Manu and RJ have had the most dramatic dropoffs from the beginning of the year. I don't know how the Spurs survived with Manu's shooting in Dec/Jan/Feb. Hopefully they all can get revved back up as we head into the homestretch.

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BECAUSE THIS TEAM IS NOT MANUS TEAM:nope:nope:nope:nope:nope

RJ's ability to get to the line has not been utilized nearly enough in his time as a Spur. granted, the Spurs' offense looks pretty this year, but i think come playoff time, when the defenses get better, the Spurs are going to regret to a degree not integrating RJ better offensively. he's a spot up shooter essentially when he has more ability that that.

what i'm concerned about with this team though is defense. the offense is fine as it is with some of its minor flaws. Spurs aren't going to win a championship if they can't play defense at a high level. they don't neccessarily have to play elite defense, but they have to be able to win games in the 90s and i'm not sure this team can do that on a consistent enoug basis.

since it has been made known that Tiago won't be playing a role for us this year, i'm hoping that the shortened rotation in the playoffs will be conducive to high level defense. more Dice/TD frontcourt and way less Bonner and Blair.

Shitting on RJ thread!



These adequately replace the Shitting on Brent Barry threads, the Shitting on Findog threads and the Shitting on Rasho/Nazr/Oberto/every other 4th/5th option threads. gg

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Originally Posted by mingus

RJ's ability to get to the line has not been utilized nearly enough in his time as a Spur. granted, the Spurs' offense looks pretty this year, but i think come playoff time, when the defenses get better, the Spurs are going to regret to a degree not integrating RJ better offensively. he's a spot up shooter essentially when he has more ability that that.

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100% agree.

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Originally Posted by TD 21

They're good or better in every major statistical category except defending the three. But even in that, they've steadily progressed as the season has gone on.

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That's just stupid. Parker's the only one that's better in March.

You have yet to make a single valid point. I don't give a shit about what other teams do, and never bought the "bored" excuse from Lakerfans. I never said the Spurs need to play "balls to the wall". What they need to do is take care of their business when they're on the floor by focusing on defense and rebounding.

Everyone keeps talking about how the Spurs want to rest their best players once they've locked up the number one seed. Well Duncan and Manu are playing the most minutes against teams like Houston, Sacramento, Memphis, New Jersey and Philly because they can't beat them or can't put them away. They're 10-4 over their last 14 and, while pretty good in the first and fourth quarters, have been letting some pretty bad teams back into games. If they're going to be doing that the rest of the year then there won't be any time to rest.

Look at the schedule.

There are seven loseable games coming up in the next nine, more than enough for this gigantic cushion you guys keep pointing at to disintegrate. At what point is it acceptable to you for us to to suggest that they focus while on the floor and put good wins together so they can be able to wrap up home-court, get some rest, and actually start to get ready for the playoffs?

Seriously, folks The Spurs either need to be playing well when they're on the floor or they need to be resting. Playing halfassed basketball and then having to bust your ass and play 35 minutes to beat a bad team accomplishes almost nothing.

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Originally Posted by mingus

RJ's ability to get to the line has not been utilized nearly enough in his time as a Spur. granted, the Spurs' offense looks pretty this year, but i think come playoff time, when the defenses get better, the Spurs are going to regret to a degree not integrating RJ better offensively. he's a spot up shooter essentially when he has more ability that that.

what i'm concerned about with this team though is defense. the offense is fine as it is with some of its minor flaws. Spurs aren't going to win a championship if they can't play defense at a high level. they don't neccessarily have to play elite defense, but they have to be able to win games in the 90s and i'm not sure this team can do that on a consistent enoug basis.

since it has been made known that Tiago won't be playing a role for us this year, i'm hoping that the shortened rotation in the playoffs will be conducive to high level defense. more Dice/TD frontcourt and way less Bonner and Blair.

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RJ was great at getting to the line earlier in the season, so we know he can do it. In some other threads, it's been discussed that perhaps he's being asked not to beat himself up. I'm a little dubious about the idea of the Spurs as a team just suddenly turning it on, but I don't think I'll be surprised to see RJ do exactly that some time in the next week or so.

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Originally Posted by MannyIsGod

Look at Neals and Blairs numbers compared to his and I think you'll see where the production has gone.

I honestly think RJ does fine. He spreads the floor but really he's probably just in the right spot as far as order of production goes.

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This is exactly correct. Neal is now getting his shots and I am okay with that.

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Originally Posted by Obstructed_View

Everyone keeps talking about how the Spurs want to rest their best players once they've locked up the number one seed. Well Duncan and Manu are playing the most minutes against teams like Houston, Sacramento, Memphis, New Jersey and Philly because they can't beat them or can't put them away. They're 10-4 over their last 14 and, while pretty good in the first and fourth quarters, have been letting some pretty bad teams back into games. If they're going to be doing that the rest of the year then there won't be any time to rest.

Look at the schedule.

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They are 10-4 with losses against 2 elite teams and 2 playoffs teams... No reason to panic.
If that is our slump then that team is really good.

And I don't get you point about resting our best players.

- Duncan averaged 27 minutes in february and 26 in March
- Ginobili 30 and 28
- Parker 30 and 30.
How could they play less? What did you expect?

Actually it is amazing we don't lose games against mediocre team with our big 3 playing so few minutes.

We may not blow out bad teams has we should... but are 29-1 against losing teams, have the 2nd point differential (Miami +6.86 Spurs +6.79). That with Parker playing the most minutes... 32 mpg (72nd in the league)... Are you kidding me?


Now, winning the 5th will not be easy. There are legit concerns about our defense or how we will match against the biggest frontcourts.
But I don't see how we could have had a better playing time management for Duncan, Ginobili and even Parker.

We should involve him more on the ofense.

well he did state around February that he was bored and just could not wait till the playoffs start.

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Originally Posted by MannyIsGod

Look at Neals and Blairs numbers compared to his and I think you'll see where the production has gone.

I honestly think RJ does fine. He spreads the floor but really he's probably just in the right spot as far as order of production goes.

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Fine? We're not paying him $12 million this year to go for 7 and 2 a game. Gimme a break.

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Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan

Fine? We're not paying him $12 million this year to go for 7 and 2 a game. Gimme a break.

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What we are paying him is irrelevant right now. For the most part, he's performed when he's needed to. If Pop is running more plays for Neal or Blair, fine. As long as it translates to more wins. I also agree with the poster earlier and that we may see more RJ in the playoffs when needed.
The 12 million can be bitched about after the season.

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Originally Posted by ShoogarBear

Not including last night's game:

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Month        MPG        FGP        FGA/36        PPG        RPG        APG
October                27.5        0.647        11.1        17.0        3.0        2.5
November        32.6        0.486        10.7        14.7        3.6        1.3
December        32.0        0.455        10.9        12.0        5.5        1.5
January                29.7        0.461        9.3        9.6        4.0        1.3
February                    31.1        0.500        7.5        9.4        2.8        1.4
March                26.2        0.565        6.3        7.6        2.6        0.6

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some things to really look at is that Oct or March are only using a few games and those numbers cant be relied on for stats purposes.

Numbers that jumped out at me were FGA in nov 10.7 to 7.5 in Feb and currently 6.3 in March thus far. Were talking 30-40% decline in numbers of attempts. ID really like to see the stats of all the players per month for an accurate accessment here.

On a slightly unrelated note, has Jefferson become scared to dunk the ball (or perhaps was told by Pop not to?) It seems like he missed a couple dunks in one game not too long ago, and after that it seems like he always is going to the "dunk lay-in" whenever he's on a breakaway or going up.

I agree with those that realize that Jefferson fits better this season and that Gary neal as taken away his touches. I'm fine with that, but pick it up on Defense RJ.

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Originally Posted by mathbzh

They are 10-4 with losses against 2 elite teams and 2 playoffs teams... No reason to panic.
If that is our slump then that team is really good.

And I don't get you point about resting our best players.

- Duncan averaged 27 minutes in february and 26 in March
- Ginobili 30 and 28
- Parker 30 and 30.
How could they play less? What did you expect?

Actually it is amazing we don't lose games against mediocre team with our big 3 playing so few minutes.

We may not blow out bad teams has we should... but are 29-1 against losing teams, have the 2nd point differential (Miami +6.86 Spurs +6.79). That with Parker playing the most minutes... 32 mpg (72nd in the league)... Are you kidding me?


Now, winning the 5th will not be easy. There are legit concerns about our defense or how we will match against the biggest frontcourts.
But I don't see how we could have had a better playing time management for Duncan, Ginobili and even Parker.

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Yeah, you're right. The Spurs should just rest on their bloated numbers from this season and not worry about, I don't know, being ready to play good teams in the playoffs, or working on defense, or working on rebounding (or even playing 48 minutes). People should just ignore the games I pointed out where the Spurs are having to play more minutes to beat mediocre teams. We wouldn't want someone accusing them of panicking by suggesting they start playing better. I'm sure Pop's decision to make Dice a starter has nothing to do with getting ready for the postseason.

54 wins, motherfuckers!

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Originally Posted by Obstructed_View

Yeah, you're right. The Spurs should just rest on their bloated numbers from this season and not worry about, I don't know, being ready to play good teams in the playoffs, or working on defense, or working on rebounding (or even playing 48 minutes). People should just ignore the games I pointed out where the Spurs are having to play more minutes to beat mediocre teams. We wouldn't want someone accusing them of panicking by suggesting they start playing better. I'm sure Pop's decision to make Dice a starter has nothing to do with getting ready for the postseason.

54 wins, motherfuckers!

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My point is not that we should not worry. It is just to state the obvious. When your best players play barely 30 mpg you can't really complain about them playing too much.

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Originally Posted by mingus

RJ's ability to get to the line has not been utilized nearly enough in his time as a Spur. granted, the Spurs' offense looks pretty this year, but i think come playoff time, when the defenses get better, the Spurs are going to regret to a degree not integrating RJ better offensively. he's a spot up shooter essentially when he has more ability that that.

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Agree 100%.

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Originally Posted by mathbzh

My point is not that we should not worry. It is just to state the obvious. When your best players play barely 30 mpg you can't really complain about them playing too much.

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Trouble is, I didn't complain about them playing too much, except in the specific games I cited, where they're playing more minutes because the team is playing lazy ball and the starters have to come in for the fourth quarter to put away a mediocre opponent. You retorted with their minutes over the entire season, just as you pointed the scoring margin over the entire season.

Your point seems to be that we shouldn't even discuss it.

Discuss what you want. No one is going or is even trying to stop you. Just don't get ass hurt when people look at the overall picture and shake their heads at your discussion.

RJ is saving his aggressiveness for the playoffs.

RJ is still as aggressive as we need him. As long as he's pulling the trigger on the 3 and as long as its going in thats pretty much all you need out of him on the offensive end. I'd rather have those touches on drives come from Neal or Hill any day.