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right because I never said I would take Ben over Hakeem in the general sense you are throwing out here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg Oden
Why are you being a dumbfuck? :lol
Is it because of tonight's disappointing performance by a top 3 clutch player?
saying he was a better defensive player because he he has more DPOY awards (:lol) than Hakeem is retarded.
Is Camby a better defender than Duncan?
Right now, yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg Oden
cool maybe Blake meant Ben Wallace was a better defender present day as well!
Hakeem is on the Mt. Rushmore of bigmen, offensively and defensively...anybody taking Ben Wallace over him is a fucktard
Ben has 4 DPOYs in a 5 year span.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg Oden
I give the nod to Ben having the better defensive career than Hakeem.
saying simply that I would "take Ben over Hakeem" when I didnt is more retarded.
Camby's had one incredibly great defensive year in 07 where he won the award.Quote:
Is Camby a better defender than Duncan?
For his size, he's been a very good rebounder, but Duncan has been better, averaging a full rebound and a half more over the course of their careers.
Blocked shots: Camby 2.6 Duncan 2.3
Aside from his one DPOY, he's been a defensive first teamer twice and a second teamer twice.
Duncan has been a first teamer 8 times and a second teamer 5 times.
Nod goes to Duncan because he has more than 3 times as many total defensive team selections, imo.
any more? or is this about the time you just throw out an lol wallace?
retarded zingQuote:
Originally Posted by Greg Oden
by your very own criteria, Camby > Duncan, defensively speaking.
this doesn't need to be hashed out any more. Taking Ben Wallace over Hakeem in any aspect of the game is bad enough.
Winning an award means a lot by my creteria, but I've never said it was the only creteria.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg Oden
Again, why are you being such a dumbfuck tonight?
Was it really because of the way the Spurs came into Dallas and manhandled the Mavs?
The only other player to have 4 DPOYs is Dikembe. Nobody else has 3.Quote:
this doesn't need to be hashed out any more. Taking Ben Wallace over Hakeem in any aspect of the game is bad enough.
I'm still good with saying Ben had the better defensive career even if you're still stuck on tonight's crushing loss.
:lol I'm not the one making retarded statements like Ben Wallace is a better defender than Hakeem based on DPOY (:lol)
Ive never seen you take a mavs loss this hard before. :depressedQuote:
Originally Posted by Greg Oden
It'll be better when I chow down some McDonald's breakfast in the morning.
In the general sense of the word, Ben is a great defensive player. But Hakeem was a superstar.
I think we will see at least another 2 years at this level from Dirk.Quote:
Originally Posted by Calispursfan11
Very reasonable prediction IMO, although I've also noticed that his rebounding has dropped off quite a bit this season. This may be a prelude to a significant dip in production even sooner. Part of this might be the addition of chandler, however, who eats glass very well thereby reducing the need for Dirk to board.Quote:
Originally Posted by Agloco
The Mavericks don't really have a number #2 option because I don't consider Terry a legitimate option (he is a clown).
A ton of pressure has been on Dirk since Nash and Finley left Dallas. He has done a really good offensive job and while he is not a fearsome defender - I would put the poor team defense at the front of the line for blame there.
Once again, not providing adequate help for Dirk falls at the feet of Mavericks "Management". The place where nothing gets managed and deck chairs get moved around.
Donnie Nelson, the Mavericks GM (in name only) spends a bunch of his time in Frisco with the Texas Legends D-League team. He glad hands with fans and dances on the sideline during breaks. We know where the buck stops in Dallas.