Great fucking +/- :cry
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Great fucking +/- :cry
OP is a fucking retard.
Bonner is garbage.
our biggest point swings is when Bonner misses a few 3s and on defensive ends gets pummeled.
retard ass chazley.
Matt Bonner is a beast...stats don't lie. His presence on not only the offensive--but the DEFENSIVE end will prove to be the difference in the playoffs.
Stats might not lie, but unfortunately Bonner gets caught with his stats down a little too often in the playoffs.Quote:
Originally Posted by DesignatedT
I agree, chazley is a bonner defender, therefore, a retard by definition. If he's so effective, why does he choke so bad in the playoffs? You're only as good as your competition.
Darn these idiots!!!
all this thread tells me is bonner seems to play alot
So much fail in this post.Quote:
Originally Posted by nkdlunch
Bonner is the best 3-pt shooter in the league, and you indicate him shooting threes is a bad thing? Rofl.
Obviously you didn't read the part where I gave stats showing he is a good defender.
False, most of the stats are adjusted for playing time.Quote:
Originally Posted by thOOdee
Sample size. You gonna go off of a 11-game sample from last year? I could go on and on and on about STARS who have struggled early in their playoff careers, only to blossom in the end.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cessation
Like what? What did I say that weren't backed up by these stats?Quote:
Originally Posted by itzsoweezee
Yea, no good player in NBA history has ever had a bad game, let alone a bad END OF A QUARTER, therefore Bonner must suck.Quote:
Originally Posted by itzsoweezee
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Originally Posted by HighLowLobForBig-50
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Originally Posted by HighLowLobForBig-50
You take dumbass to another level.Quote:
Originally Posted by HighLowLobForBig-50
Stats never tell the whole story
Trying to be Hollinger?
Do you know how stupid that guy really is?
Stats>average Spur fan's opinionQuote:
Originally Posted by jdiggy0424
No, I'm not trying to be him. However, most top contenders in the NBA have guys just like Hollinger working behind the scenes to give them advanced basketball metrics that they then use to put a better team on the court.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sense
Also, you might disagree with John Hollinger, but to call him stupid is, well, stupid.
How does one watch a game with blinkers on?
Does one have to be in a car?
Ok I haven't posted in months, but this time I gotta. I watch with my eyes and it's plain to see Bonner is very mediocre on D. These sort of stats don't always tell the truth. If you were talking blocked shots and rebounds then yes obviously. When I see Bonner blocking other bigs shots, altering shots or fighting like mad on the boards, I'll be a believer. But we all know those things aren't going to happen. Bonner's value is hitting 3's and his other shots he mixes in, but I'd trade that any day for a true big. You know the kind you can depend on to come through and get key stops. BTW Manu is no lock down defender, he's crafty and smart but Bowen like.. no.
Your post is the shared sentiment of about 80% of this board. MY OP's purpose was to prove that just because Bonner has the ugliest game on our team, doesn't mean he isn't effective and our team isn't much better defensively and offensively when he's on the court. All I can do is to point to stats and facts to back me up, because there's very few knowledgeable people here... but that's fun for me. Bonner averages about one steal/block per 48 minutes, that's fine for me for our PF on defense. Bonner is more of a mobile defender anyways, he's not a rim protector. His defensive fundamentals are top notch, and while he's prone to getting burned at times by very athletic PF's (which we don't need to worry about), he has excellent footwork and rarely fouls. On offense, he is amazingly efficient... he rarely turns it over (1 TO/48 min) and his effective FG% (0.687) is through the roof, among the best in the league.Quote:
Originally Posted by all_heart
Fun fact: Bonner has been CLUTCH this season, with an eFG% of 83.3% when the situation is 4th quarter or overtime, less than 5 minutes left,
neither team ahead by more than 5 points.
By the way, LOCKDOWN defender might have been a slight stretch when describing Manu as a defender, because Bruce was the epitomy of lockdown and Manu isn't on that level, but he is closer than anyone gives him credit for. I have read multiple articles (I know one was on 48MoH) that gave advanced stats showing just how good Manu was on defense.
Keep the rebuttals coming boys.
Bonner is more of a mobile defender anyways, he's not a rim protector. His defensive fundamentals are top notch, and while he's prone to getting burned at times by very athletic PF's (which we don't need to worry about), he has excellent footwork and rarely fouls.
Fun fact: Bonner has been CLUTCH this season, with an eFG% of 83.3% when the situation is 4th quarter or overtime, less than 5 minutes left,
neither team ahead by more than 5 points.
Huh.. the defending champs have LO and Gasol.. OKC is all athletic..
Having Bonner on the floor in critical moments or against athletic bigs means team D needs to be superb and leaves little room for error. Extremely hard to do against elite teams. BTW when Bonner gets dunked on it gives a lot of confidence to the opposing team.. not good.
I want Bonner to be clutch in the post season.. there where it matters the most. He has to prove himself he can come through..
Was he wrong?Quote:
Originally Posted by chazley
lol GNSF
lol stupid Nuggets fan. What are you, like 5th in the West? Get that weak stuff outta hereQuote:
Originally Posted by Kyle Orton
Sup Wilford