G. Hill Thread

I know some of you Spurs forum members like him and think that he has pretty high potential. I on the other hand do not like him as a player on the spurs team.

Hill is a PG/SG

Breakdown

As a SG

Undersized
Not such a good shooter

As a PG

Can't dribble
Can't pass

On top of all of this it appears pressure gets to him on the court and often plays scared. I would also like to add that I think he is an overrated defender.

I say we need to ship the guy in the summer. What do you guys think? If you like the guy, please tell me why.

Disscuss.Rant. Or anything else related to g. hill

dude been sucking for about 10 games now

I agree with some of this, he seems unfocused quite a bit latelly, I think its mental with him.

He has been really bad, but so has RJ. Spurs need them both to really step up and I trust Hill more than RJ tbh...

Hill is good shooter?, and good defender, not a great defender but he does a solid job, and has solid speed for a guy his frame.

He needs to get pack to standing at those corner 3's, but he is not great and creating offense for others, but isn't a bad passer or dribbler for a guy who has never played pg his entire life.

neal>>>>>hill as a SG AND as a PG. neal also has 2 more balls.

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Originally Posted by spursrulez4ever

neal>>>>>hill as a sg and as a pg. Neal also has 2 more balls.

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+1

Looks like he is lacking a whole lot of confidence out there. Can't produce much offense if that's the case.

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Originally Posted by Nathan89

I know some of you Spurs forum members like him and think that he has pretty high potential. I on the other hand do not like him as a player on the spurs team.

Hill is a PG/SG

Breakdown

As a SG

Undersized
Not such a good shooter

As a PG

Can't dribble
Can't pass

On top of all of this it appears pressure gets to him on the court and often plays scared. I would also like to add that I think he is an overrated defender.

I say we need to ship the guy in the summer. What do you guys think? If you like the guy, please tell me why.

Disscuss.Rant. Or anything else related to g. hill

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You're probably right if he continues to plateau in terms of defensive potential, but I liked his defense on Terrry tonight and Terry usually does very well against the Spurs.
Jefferson's not playing very good defense right now, so it's been up to Hill to step it up on D and I agree he hasn't done that well as of late - not including tonight.

usually he goes off against mavs TONIGHT HE DID NOT

Well at least I noticed Hill was out there tonight a couple times. He was decent on D and had a couple buckets...

.. He needs to regain his confidence before the playoffs .. We will need him badly because he is one of our fineness defenders .. Hopefully he gets his game back on track soon ..

Hill is overrated as hell on this board. i'll admit, there was a time (early last season) when i thought he could be really, really, good, but i've gotten my head out my ass since then.

ship his ass out!

Hill has all the fundamentals, but one thing hes missing is natural instinct like manu has.

Wierd as it sounds, I like Hill when he's playing the 3.

he was ballin a lot better last year and earlier this season

now pop has a new favorite (dyess) and ghill has regressed :(

Call him a bad passer, but that through the legs pass ala Manu was sweeeeeet

I :lmao at the people who wanted this guy to replace Parker last season. Dude has been overrated and rather have Neal or Anderson get minutes over this guy. Too bad Quinn sucks so bad to even take G Hills spot at PG.

I trust Neal over Hill at this point. Hope is fading fast that Hill can return to form. Purely a subjective take, based on Hill's often frustrating timidity and hesitation. Neal ain't perfect, but he adds a level of confidence and composure that we need IMO.

His defense was there last night, but his confidence continues to look shaky. I still like the kid and expect his game to improve by the time the play offs arrive. Yes, Homer here.

There were times he was absolutely the worst player on the floor. It's encouraging that the Spurs were pretty good despite poor game from so many players due solely to their defense.

Yeah, he might have to go. His defense is aight. When he runs the offense he takes forever to call a play and he's shooting is inconsistent. At this point is better for him to go all balls out than to hold back.

I like hill but he's not going to be a superstar, or in perennial all star conversation, he's a 2 guard, that has limited range on his jump shot. He can play some time at point but is never going to be that comfortable in the role. Pop has apparently told him to be Mr. Defense and not worry about offense which I sort of disagree with, since he's a pretty good slasher and has a decent pull up. Overall borderline starter who gets you good defense 10 points 3 rebounds, 2 assists and a steal, while bothering the other teams best perimeter guy for 22 minutes per night. What more do you really want from a back-up combo guard?

Neal has the same problem, he's turning into a pretty good back-up 2 guard/ combo guard, but isn't exactly going to impress anyone on defense, though he's not a sieve either. You're looking at your number 6 and number 7 guys and wondering why they aren't superstars..... This is a league leading team everyone is up for them and watching the tapes. Its also a team with some weaknesses that can be exploited.

please delete the double post.

hes an alright role player, wish he was being more productive.

He's vastly overrated defensively but I love the spark he brings off the bench

He's playing terribly in the last 2 weeks or so. I main problem is his lack of confidence, when things stars to get wrong he can't recover. I also think he did a good job on Terry last night. I hope he can start built something thing out of it

In offense it looks like he lost confidence in his shots. His corner triple was money last season but in the last month he missing a lot of those and wide open. The other thing is he's a ball stopper. He dribbles too much and it often lead to bad shots at the end of the clock.

If he can play solid defense and make the open 3 I'll be happy. I just hope Pop doesn't put him at PG.

It's funny because I think Hill and RJ suffer from the same thing, except that Hill still puts in supreme effort defensively when his shot doesn't fall.

Both Hill and RJ really suffer when they lack aggression. When they play aggressive, they do well more often than not. When they float on offense and just look to be ball movers, they bring very little to the table.

Both players need to step up the aggression. Both have the tools to drive more and get to the line. Both can shoot, but they need to get the other parts of their game going before the shot will fall.

With the exception of Neal, all the role players (along with RJ) have been pretty disappointing lately. Fortunately the Big 3 all showed up last night.

I think he has the skills to be very effective. However, I think he is weak mentally. This will hurt us in the playoffs.. I would play gary neal over him in the playoffs, and use him to play situational D.

I'm am really not worried about Hill. I trust him to do something when it matters. He is not a superstar, so he can't be expected to dominate every game. Spurs just need a few solid games out of him.

It's tough to make your mark when Manu and Tony light it up. I like Georgie and if the Spurs give him a decent second contract I think he can be a good SG starter or sixth man for a lot of years.

If one of the starters got hurt for an extended period, George would do what he did last year and early this year, get in a groove and roll.

When you pick as low as the Spurs always do, I think if you get a pretty darn good rotation player, part time starter, and someone who will eventually play 8-10 years in the NBA, you are doing all right.

The "Hit" versus "Miss" stats on SAS top picks is very much to the positive.

He did get a few key rebounds in the second half..Those usual long rebounds we did not get against the lakers because a lack of hustle.

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

It's funny because I think Hill and RJ suffer from the same thing, except that Hill still puts in supreme effort defensively when his shot doesn't fall.

Both Hill and RJ really suffer when they lack aggression. When they play aggressive, they do well more often than not. When they float on offense and just look to be ball movers, they bring very little to the table.

Both players need to step up the aggression. Both have the tools to drive more and get to the line. Both can shoot, but they need to get the other parts of their game going before the shot will fall.

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+1 I wish someone would just tell Hill and Jefferson that they have to take it into the paint at least five times a game or they won't get playing time. The opposite of Bonner who if doesn't shoot the open three he gets taken out.

gary neal is outplaying these 2 clowns...

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Originally Posted by Gagnrath

please delete the double post.

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Delete it yourself. Edit the post and at the top is an option to delete it.

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Originally Posted by Chachachango

Yeah, he might have to go.

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Uh, no. Unless the Spurs want to trade him for a big defender, in which case Pop wouldn't do it because he doesn't like big defenders. What the Spurs need is a backup point guard and let Hill be the sixth man who can score and defend.

He's playing bad right now, but that doesn't mean he's a bad player. Once he and RJ get their groove back, the Spurs are going to be scary good for the playoffs.

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Originally Posted by Obstructed_View

Uh, no. Unless the Spurs want to trade him for a big defender, in which case Pop wouldn't do it because he doesn't like big defenders. What the Spurs need is a backup point guard and let Hill be the sixth man who can score and defend.

He's playing bad right now, but that doesn't mean he's a bad player. Once he and RJ get their groove back, the Spurs are going to be scary good for the playoffs.

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If it comes back, then yes, I agree. The Spurs can't win without that happening. If it does, look out.

They're working on defense and communicating. They've got four weeks to get it back, so I'm not terribly worried. Prior to last night there was no sense of urgency at all, and that was worrying.

I wonder if the Spurs coaching staff is content with the progress he has made....I still think there is a ton of upside to his game..It seems like they put his development on hold.

anyway, yea he seems like he has panic in his eye....other Spurs not so much.

He needs a big all around game tonight! let's go GH3.

IMO Hill/Jefferson/Blair/Bonner could be traded...not in the off-season tho.

George is a good solid role player for us, hard worker and gym rat, and good guy. We shouldn't be so hard on him because he's not (probably) going to bloom into an allstar.

As for the immediate past (i.e. recent slump) he'll get out of it. George is tougher than some of you think.

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George is a good solid role player for us, hard worker and gym rat, and good guy. We shouldn't be so hard on him because he's not (probably) going to bloom into an allstar.

As for the immediate past (i.e. recent slump) he'll get out of it. George is tougher than some of you think.

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I agree with that 100%. Expectations need to be tempered. Hill does more good than bad (not lately). He will have games where he looks like an All-Star and then stretches like this where he doesn't look like an NBA player.

All we need is some consistency from a habit stand point. Make or miss, mistakes or none, he needs to be aggressive. Make mistakes, but make them aggressive mistakes.

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Delete it yourself. Edit the post and at the top is an option to delete it.

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Done wasn't sure how thanks.