Bonner apologists, please explain

this piece of shit doesnt even deserve to be in the league.

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Originally Posted by TD 21

Let me explain to you how this works, retard. The guy is basically a 50% three-point shooter. 40% is excellent. 50% is insane. They have no choice but to respect his shot and if they don't, then he'll throw in 2-3 and make them respect his shot. Once they do that, it opens the middle up more for Parker and Ginobili.

Like I said, if he folds under the pressure of the playoffs again and can't do that, then bench him. But to not give him another chance because of a limited sample size is foolish.

You're a fucking idiot and you don't know shit about the game.

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I guess TD21 is the only sane person participating in this thread. Like the rest of the world, this forum is dominated by stupid people

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Originally Posted by Splitman4evah

I guess TD21 is the only sane person participating in this thread. Like the rest of the world, this forum is dominated by stupid people

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UR AN IDIOT, period........ Thats all. LOL read above, this is a joke and you guys are beyond fucking stupid if you think he will help us in the playoffs, when has he? You guys are in fantasy world, prove me wrong ? Show me stats in the playoffs bro? SHOW ME LATE YEAR STATS? I DARE EITHER ONE OF YOU TO DO THAT? YOU CAN NOT. PERIOD. He is a piece of shit.

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Originally Posted by Sean Cagney

Get real man, he has not proven it in three years in the playoffs and you shit on us? We are just seeing reality bro. LOL at shit on heads in the playoffs, since when has he done that :lol:lol Infact his slump has started right on que lately it seems! RIGHT ON IT! He has not proven us wrong, so why even start this here? What other team would play him so many mins? Just the Spurs it seems, get real that dude has no nuts at all, he is hot early but not Horry late, it's a reality and has been, argue that there.

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He is the best 3pt shooter in the league. Dispute that. People grow. Players grow. Teams grow. Bonner is the 8th man in a 9 man playoff rotation. He can win us a game here or there, but his play will not determine a series. Everyone has to step up and play well, including the Red Rocket. Don't hurt yourself while you shove your Splitter dildo in your ass tonight.

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Originally Posted by Splitman4evah

He is the best 3pt shooter in the league. Dispute that. People grow. Players grow. Teams grow. Bonner is the 8th man in a 9 man playoff rotation. He can win us a game here or there, but his play will not determine a series. Everyone has to step up and play well, including the Red Rocket. Don't hurt yourself while you shove your Splitter dildo in your ass tonight.

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:lol

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Originally Posted by Splitman4evah

Yeah, he's in a slump every season when he is leading the lead in 3pt accuracy this year. I can't wait till he shits on you in the playoffs.

On the other hand, Splitter is a tried and true commodity that is only shackled because Pop gives Bonner anal. Got it.

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I'll be happy if he shits on me but I doubt it so I'll be depressed until he actually does something in the playoffs

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Originally Posted by Splitman4evah

He is the best 3pt shooter in the league. Dispute that. People grow. Players grow. Teams grow. Bonner is the 8th man in a 9 man playoff rotation. He can win us a game here or there, but his play will not determine a series. Everyone has to step up and play well, including the Red Rocket. Don't hurt yourself while you shove your Splitter dildo in your ass tonight.

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OH WOW! FUCKING FERRY Was high in 01 too, what did he do when it counted? HAHAHAH NOTHING! He lead the league or near it that year too. He will not grow, he has not dick, he is soft as burger buns, show me a key playoff game he had and then I will talk to you again on this here? I know you can't! What is his stats lately as well may I ask? Tell me? It is late in the year so he chokes! He is shyt, he does not hit and is a black hole on D, he will do that again, prove me wrong? What playoff game you gonna point to? IS HE HORRY? LOL NO. I am done playing with clowns you like tonight, go fucking talk to your brother BONNER! It seems he is your family. He is shit

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Originally Posted by Sean Cagney

UR AN IDIOT, period........ Thats all. LOL read above, this is a joke and you guys are beyond fucking stupid if you think he will help us in the playoffs, when has he? You guys are in fantasy world, prove me wrong ? Show me stats in the playoffs bro? SHOW ME LATE YEAR STATS? I DARE EITHER ONE OF YOU TO DO THAT? YOU CAN NOT. PERIOD. He is a piece of shit.

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Since when is past playoff performance the sole and only indicator of future success? Are you declaring that LeBron will never win a chip because he has never won a chip? Knuckle-dragging neanderthal Manichean absolutists, such as yourself, are always wrong.

Bonner homers provide some of the best comedy on st, lol.

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Originally Posted by NRHector

I'll be happy if he shits on me but I doubt it so I'll be depressed until he actually does something in the playoffs

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He won't but dont' worry, next year you will hear the same shit after he fades in the playoffs again! He will do it again yes, but idiots next year will give him a pass for his HIGH % from three early on.

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Originally Posted by Splitman4evah

Since when is past playoff performance the sole and only indicator of future success? Are you declaring that LeBron will never win a chip because he has never won a chip? Knuckle-dragging neanderthal Manichean absolutists, such as yourself, are always wrong.

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Playoffs is where a man shows up, some show up all year but he is one when it is on the line he fades and turns pussy, prove me wrong or shut the fuck up now.. SHUT ME UP NOW THERE? YOU CAN NOT.......

I have a better shot at winning a million than this clown actually showing up int he playoffs when it counts, he has no heart.

With the way Bonner is shooting and given his confidence level this season, let's pray he doesn't venture onto ST.com from now until and during the playoffs.... NOT ONCE!!

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Originally Posted by Sean Cagney

UR AN IDIOT, period........ Thats all. LOL read above, this is a joke and you guys are beyond fucking stupid if you think he will help us in the playoffs, when has he? You guys are in fantasy world, prove me wrong ? Show me stats in the playoffs bro? SHOW ME LATE YEAR STATS? I DARE EITHER ONE OF YOU TO DO THAT? YOU CAN NOT. PERIOD. He is a piece of shit.

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If you don't agree, fine. If you want to take me to task, fine. But get what I said right. I never said there was anything statistically to suggest he'd turn it around in the playoffs. I just said the sample size isn't expansive enough to suggest unequivocally that he can't get it done in the playoffs and that, considering the alternative, he deserves another chance.

Inserting Splitter into the rotation is a no brainer (even though, barring injury, it isn't going to happen unless the Spurs play the Lakers and even then, it's not guaranteed). The real question is Bonner or Blair. I've already laid out my argument for why Bonner should get the first crack and I've repeatedly said, he should be on a short leash.

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Originally Posted by TD 21

If you don't agree, fine. If you want to take me to task, fine. But get what I said right. I never said there was anything statistically to suggest he'd turn it around in the playoffs. I just said the sample size isn't expansive and that he deserves another chance.

Inserting Splitter into the rotation is a no brainer (even though, barring injury, it isn't going to happen unless the Spurs play the Lakers and even then, it's not guaranteed). The real question is Bonner or Blair. I've already laid out my argument for why Bonner should get the first crack and I've repeatedly said, he should be on a short leash.

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I agree here with you! You are cool, that other dude though...... NO. YOu made a decent argument there, I agree with you but not him.

I do not like Bonner at all, thats just me and until he proves me wrong late I am rightfully so there.

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Originally Posted by Sean Cagney

Playoffs is where a man shows up, some show up all year but he is one when it is on the line he fades and turns pussy, prove me wrong or shut the fuck up now.. SHUT ME UP NOW THERE? YOU CAN NOT.......

I have a better shot at winning a million than this clown actually showing up int he playoffs when it counts, he has no heart.

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Yes, no heart.

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After signing with Sicilia Messina of the Italian league based in Messina, Sicily, 2003 proved to be a harrowing year for Bonner. Bonner survived a 104.5 degree Fahrenheit fever brought on by a bout of salmonella (treated by the team dentist) most likely caused by a lack of running hot water in his apartment. Sicilia had filed for bankruptcy in the middle of the season and had stopped paying its players. Bonner's heat and electricity were shut off and he was given two eviction notices. Despite half the team leaving, Bonner stuck it out and finished the year averaging 19.2 points and 9.3 rebounds.

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Did you also look into Vladimir Putin's soul and determine him to be good like your BFF Bush? Who granted you with heart-granting capabilities? All you are is a Splitter-asshole licker who has no idea what he is talking about. Which will be even clearer when Bonner shits on you and wins us a series.... as the 8th man on a 9 man rotation....

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Originally Posted by TD 21

There is no "figuring it out". Way to expose the fact that you're a novice fan. It's a pick your poison type scenario. Very few teams (maybe only the Lakers) are capable of guarding against Parker's/Ginobili's penetration and being able to close to the Spurs three-point shooters.

If Bonner doesn't play, then Blair-Splitter would be the backup big duo. This is problematic because neither has any range whatsoever, so teams can give more help to stop penetration.

As Harlem alluded to, Bonner deserves another chance, with the caveat that he get's the hook by no later than game four if he's shooting blanks in the first three two-three games. The sample size in the playoffs isn't significant enough to determine unequivocally that he can't shoot well in the playoffs.

The guy is the best spot up three-point shooter in the league. There is value in that, especially at his position, which is why every contender prioritizes having a stretch-four. It can be particularly valuable against a team like the Lakers (to pull some of their length away from the basket and open up more space for Parker/Ginobili).

I like his chances this time around, because he appears to be more confident this season.

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This sort of summarizes how I feel at the moment...as fans, we have to accept the status quo, nothing can be done now, Pop isn't changing his ways and Bonner isn't leaving any time soon. With the way he's shooting and with a much deeper bench in emerging Neal, Hill, and Anderson, more legitimate scoring threats off the bench and a confident and successful Bonner so far this season, he deserves...actually, hell, whether or not you agree that he deserves another chance, the fact is he's getting one, and this time around the variables are more so in his favor for the above reasons and also because it's yet another year with the team. More experience.


But if he completely shits the bed this year in the playoffs, I never want to see him in a Spurs uniform again.

Last night he missed 4 shots in a row and 2 where from the same spot and right there the Bobcats were making a come back thank God Pop brought back the starters and were able to get some points

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Originally Posted by ALVAREZ6

This sort of summarizes how I feel at the moment...as fans, we have to accept the status quo, nothing can be done now, Pop isn't changing his ways and Bonner isn't leaving any time soon. With the way he's shooting and with a much deeper bench in emerging Neal, Hill, and Anderson, more legitimate scoring threats off the bench and a confident and successful Bonner so far this season, he deserves...actually, hell, whether or not you agree that he deserves another chance, the fact is he's getting one, and this time around the variables are more so in his favor for the above reasons and also because it's yet another year with the team. More experience.


But if he completely shits the bed this year in the playoffs, I never want to see him in a Spurs uniform again.

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Yep, I give him one more year here to do it, if not I don't want to see his face again, FAIR BONNER FANS?

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This sort of summarizes how I feel at the moment...as fans, we have to accept the status quo, nothing can be done now, Pop isn't changing his ways and Bonner isn't leaving any time soon. With the way he's shooting and with a much deeper bench in emerging Neal, Hill, and Anderson, more legitimate scoring threats off the bench and a confident and successful Bonner so far this season, he deserves...actually, hell, whether or not you agree that he deserves another chance, the fact is he's getting one, and this time around the variables are more so in his favor for the above reasons and also because it's yet another year with the team. More experience.


But if he completely shits the bed this year in the playoffs, I never want to see him in a Spurs uniform again.

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Originally Posted by ALVAREZ6

With the way Bonner is shooting and given his confidence level this season, let's pray he doesn't venture onto ST.com from now until and during the playoffs.... NOT ONCE!!

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Given these posts...that his confidence is high, he's getting another chance regardless of what anyone thinks, and it's the last realistic chance for the Spurs to win a title for a long time....let's please bury these types of threads, because everything I know about Matt Bonner makes me believe he'd be the type of guy to immediately shoot 15% after reading a thread like this.

The Spurs need him to keep it up if they want to win it all. :flag:

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Originally Posted by Cessation

Bonner haters provide some of the best comedy on st, lol.

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Originally Posted by ALVAREZ6

Given these posts...that his confidence is high, he's getting another chance regardless of what anyone thinks, and it's the last realistic chance for the Spurs to win a title for a long time....let's please bury these types of threads, because everything I know about Matt Bonner makes me believe he'd be the type of guy to immediately shoot 15% after reading a thread like this.

The Spurs need him to keep it up if they want to win it all. :flag:

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:lol

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Originally Posted by Splitman4evah

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Are we wrong though in his late season efforts and playoffs from the past? I mean he can turn it around but will he? RIGHT NOW are we right about him late in the year? Just asking you to post something to prove us wrong.

I want him to be dared to shoot like AJ in 99 from midrange, I want him to hit 50% from the three to keep those honesty and say F U for doubting me, will he? Has he up till now? NO, no denying that.

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Originally Posted by Sean Cagney

Are we wrong though in his late season efforts and playoffs from the past? I mean he can turn it around but will he? RIGHT NOW are we right about him late in the year? Just asking you to post something to prove us wrong.

I want him to be dared to shoot like AJ in 99 from midrange, I want him to hit 50% from the three to keep those honesty and say F U for doubting me, will he? Has he up till now? NO, no denying that.

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By your argument, any player who set foot in a playoff game and didn't dominate is doomed to future failure. There is no denying Bonner has been lackluster in his playoff career. There is also no denying that playoff career is limited to a couple of games and a weak sample size. But you can't just discount the best long range shooter in the league as a complete and total playoff choke job based on that short history. The dude deserves another chance. Players grow and flourish in the Spurs system after they have a few years to get acclimated. And I expect Bonner to keep snapping the net at 50% in the playoffs, and hardnosed (yet underrated and underappreciated) defense.

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Originally Posted by Splitman4evah

By your argument, any player who set foot in a playoff game and didn't dominate is doomed to future failure. There is no denying Bonner has been lackluster in his playoff career. There is also no denying that playoff career is limited to a couple of games and a weak sample size. But you can't just discount the best long range shooter in the league as a complete and total playoff choke job based on that short history. The dude deserves another chance. Players grow and flourish in the Spurs system after they have a few years to get acclimated. And I expect Bonner to keep snapping the net at 50% in the playoffs, and hardnosed (yet underrated and underappreciated) defense.

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Ughhhhhh Defense has not been this thing here for him, but if he can hit at 50% in the playoffs I will be the first to shake his hand! I hope he can. I am saying some play good all year, but in crunch time they wilt and fold, Horry was not one of them for us or wherever he is playing, thats all I am saying. If he does good them cool, but the last two runs or so Bonner has been horrible and just bricked his open shots in the playoffs.

I hope you are right, I will watch with you and root for this team. BTW I am saying here and now if rely on him heavily for our run we are fucked, he should be a 18mpg guy and notta else, lets hope he delivers there but he is nto key to our run Manu, Tim, Tony, Hill, Neal and so on are for that, he is just a role player we hope does well so lets not make him a focal point by any means.

lol "snapping the net at 50% in the playoffs"
lol "bonner defence"