On a pure skillset and effort consideration, who would you rather have coming off the bench for the Spurs? Honestly...
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On a pure skillset and effort consideration, who would you rather have coming off the bench for the Spurs? Honestly...
Neal cause he can score in any quarter......oh and his pay to productivity ratio is outstanding..
Agreed, Neal makes barely 500k. Terry is 10 million plus. No comparison on pay/production ratio there.
In addition to the salary issue, Jason Terry is absolutely not clutch, he's known for playoff failures despite his bluster, he's seven years older than Gary Neal, and he's a thug. Apologies to the OP, but fail poll.
Obstructed, ouch. I agree it's Neal, but if you look at the overall stats, Terry is still an elite bench man. I don't agree that it's a hands down fail.Quote:
Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
Is this a real question? Not only does Neal currently provide exponentially more value/dollar than Terry, he is also objectively worth a higher salary than Terry because for the most part Terry is trash.
Jet 16.3 ppg, 2 RPG, 4.2 APG
Neal 9.5 ppg, RPG 2.5, APG 1.1
I wasn't considering punk attitude as part of the analysis here. Simply, who would you rather have off the bench on a skill/hustle level. Stats are in favor of Jet.
Nope, sorry. See the bold.Quote:
Originally Posted by Calispursfan11
If you aren't going to consider his punk attitude, then it's not realistic. Terry's a punk, and has been since he was in Atlanta. Shitload of talent? Yep. Hell of a shooter? Uh huh. Sixth man of the year? Absolutely. Would I trade them straight up even if Dallas paid his contract? Nope.
Did anyone checkout the on-ball defense Neal threw down on Barea in Friday's game?
Scoring
Defense
Mental toughness
Dribble penetration
Team Player
Non media whore
This isn't even close. Gotta Neal with it.
Taking away the personality issues, Terry also is often their second offensive option while Neal (even with Pop's blessing to shoot) is never more than 3rd or fourth depending on who is in the game. The question is could Neal be as productive as Terry in the number two role? Possibly, but probably not.
But in the big picture Neal is younger, a better fit and cheaper so its easily Neal.
But, if you were to wave the money side the question becomes more difficult.
That said, Terry is an ass and I wouldn't want him on my team.
Terry is the textbook case why barking and woofing doesn't mean shit. If they tracked clutch fail to trash talk ratio, Terry would lead the league annually.
Check per 36 minutes stats, they're pretty even :toastQuote:
Originally Posted by Calispursfan11
If Jason Terry existed with his stats, in a vacuum, I would say Terry. But alas, that is not the world we live in. In the real world, Terry has a horrible attitude and it shows in every facet of his being. His facial expressions, his consistantly dirty play, the way he runs his mouth in pre/post game interviews, etc. I wouldnt even have him on my bench.
One question: are you fucking serious?Quote:
Originally Posted by SenorSpur
But HEART in favor of Neal. I have always been a Spurs fan and always will be but if the Spurs EVER signed Terry I think I would have to consider turning around and walking away from my beloved team. Now Nowitski I would welcome into the Spurs organization! That would bring us 2 or 3 more championships before Duncan hangs 'em up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Calispursfan11
lol ratface on the spurs, i just threw up a little
Jason Terry has done a lot more for the underprivileged and homeless than Gary Neal has. He's also never raped someone. So much for character or attitude issues.
Says the troll with Odens pubes in his sig, lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg Oden
terry wouldn't fit our system, so neal
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Originally Posted by Cesspool
That has nothing to do with the topic, troll.
neal did not rape anyone the chargers were dropped
If you want to discuss the Chargers, there's an NFL forum here at Spurstalk.Quote:
Originally Posted by ducks
:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Greg Oden
In a street fight?
Terry, for his supreme nut punching abilities.
gr8 take broQuote:
Originally Posted by wunderkindepiphany
That's harshQuote:
Originally Posted by wunderkindepiphany
The charges were not dropped. He was sent to trial and was acquitted by a jury of his peers after the state prosecuted him. And he had a public defender. He didn't pay millions in hush money (i.e. Kobe), he was acquitted on the merits and put his life back together in a responsible way.Quote:
Originally Posted by ducks
Dog Shit > Terry's shot selection
Neal's game simply fits the Spurs better. The Spurs shoot the 3 point ball more than most teams. Neal is the the better 3 point shooter. Even though he has taken about half the total shots that Terry has this season--967 to 520--Neal has actually taken more 3's--293 to 257--and has hit a higher perctange as well. Neal is a slightly more effecient scorer, but that advantage would probably disappear if he increased his shot attempts.
I'm a huge fan of Neal, but come on guys. If we rule out their contracts and their ages, Terry selection is a no brainer. Neal is the most underpaid player of the league at the moment and that's why it's a confusing question when the salary parameter joins to comparision.
Would you surprise when Terry scores 30 in a play-off game? What about Neal? For this year, i would accept Terry; for future i wouldn't.
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Originally Posted by tuncaboylu
Reasonable analysis - I think if you put aside attitude, it may be close to a wash between Terry and Neal for this year. If you throw in potential, attitude, value for your money etc., then Neal is the clear choice. But if it came down to a playoff series, who would you want off the bench? It's not as clear cut. I think the poll results are reflecting a large amount of bias of Terry Haters.
Either that or it's reflecting Terry's track record in the playoffs.
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
I vote against terry, cause...ooooh wee.. he look like a rat
ThisQuote:
Originally Posted by SenorSpur
:lol I was waiting for thisQuote:
Originally Posted by Darkwaters
Leave it to Gregory to dumb down a thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg Oden
:lol
Neal because I am completely biased and Terry is a total douchebag.
lol spurfans shitting on Terry for his attitude even when comparing him to a rapist.
Classiest train ever imo.
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Originally Posted by Dex
Alright, im gonna admit, I cracked up when I saw this response. And I'm one of the proponents of doing away with "Neal Wit' It". Lol.
Jets better, Neal complements the team more. I'm surprised 11 people don't see this
:lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by Greg Oden
Then is it safe to assume that you voted for Terry?Quote:
Originally Posted by Manu_Forever
Good answer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dex
Love this! I think it's just that one picture everyone keeps posting when the Mavs lost by one to the nuggs. It will be forever ingrained in the minds of Spurs fans as the "Rat Pic".Quote:
Originally Posted by Cessation
Terry is very over-rated. Streaky but short and a lousy defender. Neal much more upside and unlike the pseudo jet will get a ring in his career.
JT PER 16.40 and 54% TS http://31 min and 16 ppg<br /> <br .../_/position/sg
Gary Neal PER 12.8 and about 10 points per game in only about 20 min per game (would be more if played more) and 57% TS
Neal bigger upside period!
LOL - I'll never forget Avery's comment at the press conference afterward while trying to defend Terry's actions. He said "Next time grab".Quote:
Originally Posted by Tigole Bitties
:lol
Would you rather have Terry now?
Not really. Neal saved won game 5 for us with his big shot. Besides that I think Neal can shoot just as well from anywhere on the court, plus he can dribble in and put up his floater. I still think Neal has the most pure shot from any Spurs player in the last decade.
brent barry says hiQuote:
Originally Posted by Nathan89
Jason Terry has about as much of a chance of becoming a Spurs as Mark Cuban has of having sex with a woman.