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Sean E11iot predicts 2 weeks for Duncan. We can live with that. We have the cushion, and the Spurs should be able to at least go .500 without Duncan.
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Sean E11iot predicts 2 weeks for Duncan. We can live with that. We have the cushion, and the Spurs should be able to at least go .500 without Duncan.
more rest right up to the playoffs
kind of a blessing
Sean was guessing. After the game, Pop said he didn't know because he hadn't even talked to Tim yet. My guess is that he misses the roadie, 3 games.
Yeah, but what does Pops two week timetable look like?
WTF is up with spam in my post? Has someone hacked this website?
Rest Timmy...we've got HCA pretty much locked up.
You spelled Elliott wrong. When you do, you get the luckthefakers crapQuote:
Originally Posted by Supergirl
I just corrected Elliott's name:king oh, the irony...
Maybe someone hacked your account.
what Spam?Quote:
Originally Posted by Supergirl
If they say 2 weeks, I'm expecting at least 3... Pop will be conservative with this and rightly so... As long as TD has a game or two to 'warm up' before the playoffs, he should be good to go...
She just deleted the spam. She had spelled Elliott wrong and then got the lakerspam.Quote:
Originally Posted by phyzik
I remember my first encounter with that.:lol
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Supergirl gets the GNSF treatment. :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Spursmania
Someone posted the fakers luck throughout her post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spursmania
That's odd since I spell Elliott's name the same way as the article spells it...I'm pretty sure it's got 2 L's.
you're right baseline.:toastQuote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
And apparently it only does it if I write Sean Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Lu ck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_? Not if I just do Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Lu ck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_?
No, its a long tradition here on Spurstalk, most people dont know that Elliott has 2 T's. Its a script run on the board that if you mispell his name, it automatically does that. :toastQuote:
Originally Posted by Hoops Czar
Oh it's the T's, not the L's.
You were missing a t.
From the recap.
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Spurs coach Gregg Popovich said Duncan would be out “a while” but didn’t have a timetable.
Im suprised Br isnt in the NBA forum ripping up Timmy!
This thread is more about Elliott than duncan. lol
I think it works either way. Not sure though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Supergirl
You know he'll be there soon talking smack about Tim.Quote:
Originally Posted by LakerHater
I'm just glad the injury isn't as bad as it looked.
I think there may be a silver lining here. This will give Splitter some serious playing time against some of the best teams. Let's see what he's got.
As long as Timmy is ready for the Playoffs, then everything is fine. In fact, this might be a blesing in disguise. Odds are, Pop is just going to rest Timmy in the Playoffs, which he should. Imagine Timmy having 3 and a half weeks of rest for his ankles and knees before the Playoffs? He's going to be refreshed. This is why we played so hard in the Season for folks, so we can have the luxury of resting our players will having the #1 Seed.
I would want Manu to rest right after March ends to be honest. This is just what I would do, because I would be as careful as possible, and give Manu two weeks of rest. Like I said, we shouldn't have to worry with twelve games left and a freaking seven game lead. And I can imagine Parker having a week off before the Playoffs start too.
Bottom line is that our star players need to be rested, and we're in perfect position to do that. Timmy's ankles will be fine. Besides, its the perfect opportunity to give Tiago some wear and tear and see what he can contribute if he's in the rotation in the Playoffs. So here we go.
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It is two T's, but you spelled his name with two 1'sQuote:
Originally Posted by Supergirl
Timmy rolled ankle over all the way flush to the floor..almost. It looked pretty bad.
That Epke Udoh is like a newborn giraffe wearing oversized Nikes in there. He's dangerous to all of basketball mankind.
Duncan Injury
http://www.nba.com/video/games/spurs...s=iref:nbahpt2
Get well soon Timmy!!!
Unless we're about to lose the grip on the number 1 seed (which most likely is not going to happen). We worked too hard to give that up in the last few games.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
Not that I'm concerned to the point where this could derail the Spurs season, but why does this shit never happen to the Lakers? They're long overdue. How come that puke Bryant wasn't out two weeks when he turned his ankle? How come that big bitch Gasol isn't injured now or Odom? Everything's always smooth sailing for them and there's always got to at least be a scare with the Spurs. Don't give me this "we were due" crap. The Thunder were overdue last season, yet there was no late injury scare. It's always got to be something.
Bynum's never missed a game in his life. Nothing ever happens to the Lakers.Quote:
Originally Posted by TD 21
Duncan's much older than Gasol and Odom though. Much more physical style of play. Much higher chance of injury. I think he's done a great job throughout his career of limiting his injuries. Gasol will be more tweaky when he's 34.Quote:
Originally Posted by TD 21
Bynum's had plenty of injuries and it cost LA a title.
Kobe plays through a lot of hurt. Manu's ankle was a freak injury years ago, that's just how luck goes sometimes.
If I'm going to be a butthurt spurfan, it's not going to be because LA doesn't get injured enough :lmao
:lol:lol:lol Some clumbsy bozos like him or a Madsden can kill you out there! Hell even a freakin Najera can AS WELL, THOSE are the biggest dumb fucks to play against as they can ruin your season just from being clumbsy as hell out there and not meaning it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solid D
Are you kidding with this? Every damn team in the league has been cursed with injuries while the Spurs have slid to this point. Be thankful it's not anything worse than it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by TD 21
Bynum doesn't count. They have a bloated payroll and the season he missed the playoffs, he got hurt before the trade deadline which enabled them to react by "acquiring" (aka being handed) Gasol, which was an upgrade.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoops Czar
Outside of that, they haven't had a single key injury derail their season that I can recall in the past decade, when they've been a contender.
justinandimcool, he's not much older. He's got 3 years (2 seasons) on Odom and 4 years (4 seasons) on Gasol. I realize he's got a lot more mileage, but they're not young anymore, either.
Bryant plays through injuries that can be played through. He's never had something so serious that it derailed their season, though.
They don't get injured enough. I don't want them injured, I want them healthy, so that there's no excuses when the Spurs eliminate them. I'm just saying, where's their, if not crippling injury, scare, at least? Old man Fisher can't mess up his knee, ankle, etc.? Everything's always smooth sailing for them.
If Tiago plays hard the next two weeks Pop might give him some pt in the playoffs. There was no chance of that happening before Tim went down in all probability. Novak and Tiago might really come in handy before it's all over. Hopefully everyone will step up....
So you think he's back by next Monday then?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChuckD
Kind of a dick way to look at things but you're right, everytime the Lakers get a "scare" ala Kobe a couple weeks ago, the guy is ready to go by the next game...Quote:
Originally Posted by TD 21
Blessing in disguise. He rests, Tiago gets major minutes. Both will be ready for playoffs. Win, win.
This could be a flat out blessing, because we SURE as hell will need F in Splitter if we face LA and thats for certain! VERY CERTAIN!Quote:
Originally Posted by spurs10
Well, if Bynum doesn't count, then who does? Without Bynum, the Lakers don't win a championship this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by TD 21
Doesn't Kobe have a chronic finger? Didn't he play through a lot of pain toward the end of last season? Jackson finally sat him because he was hurting the team.
BTW, Duncan doesn't have a severe season ending injury. Its just a sprained ankle. Two to three weeks isn't a death sentence.
Are you that slow? (don't bother answering that; it's rhetorical . . . look it up)Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoops Czar
I just said why he doesn't count. It has nothing to do with his ability or impact, it's about when it happened, the fact that they're well over the tax every season and the fact that the "trade" of the decade fell into their laps (conveniently).
If, in '09, the Spurs found our pre-deadline that Ginobili was done for the season, but were able to parlay a future 1st or two, Splitter's rights and a few spare parts (to make it work financially) into Wade, then I wouldn't look back at the Ginobili injury and act hard done by.
Bryant has played hurt, but he hasn't had a single injury that was too severe to play with. No micro fracture knee surgery, no broken leg, etc.
I'm aware of the projected timeline for Duncan and I'm not overreacting to it, which you'd know if you'd have comprehended my first sentence in this thread. I'm just saying, why does there almost always have to be something with the Spurs coming down the stretch and never anything with the Lakers?
May I recommend the book "When Bad Things Happen To Good People"?Quote:
Originally Posted by TD 21
:rolleyesYou guys get more like Suns Fan every day.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4>0rings
I'm relieved the x-rays are negative because that looked bad. That was way worse than '05 when TD stepped on Sheed's foot.
No shit!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Giuseppe
Injury to the face of the franchise a blessing!?!??:ihit
The Lakers do get injured, they just have $23,000,000 more in payroll per season than the Spurs do to make up for it.
Can you imagine what kind of team we'd have with another 20 mil lying around to sign players all year?
I think he meant since it's not serious and he'll be back before the playoffs that the injury will now force Pop to play Splitter big minutes. Maybe some good will come from it.Quote:
Originally Posted by LakerHater
We could use a few of those on the spurs:lol. As for the ankle sprain, I recently had a similar roll after landing on someones foot after a layup and rolled mine to the floor. I had to do therapy for a few weeks and it looked like a melon. Hopefully duncan didnt do as much damage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solid D
The Lakers are always threatening the tax threshold. Chalk that up to small market versus large market. The trade of the decade would have happened one way or another. Memphis saw false hopes in Kwame and were willing to pay a steep price to bring him in. That trade was inevitable and would have happened regardless. The Lakers have a keen sense and they can smell stupid coming from miles away.Quote:
Originally Posted by TD 21
The Ginobili dream package is just that... a dream. The Spurs don't have the financial flexibility to pull off a trade like that. The Spurs don't take gambles on the unknown. Being a Spurs fan, you should know this. The Spurs rarely, if ever made a big splash on an in-season trade acquisition. They pick and choose their players wisely. Its part of the reason why this franchise has remained successful for so long.
Bigs have a tendency to breakdown faster than guards and small forwards. They're more fragile and they're careers, on average, don't last as long.
Kobe's been lucky so far, however, that can change in an instant.
Count your blessing the Spurs have four championships banked. Things don't always happen to the Spurs down the stretch, you just remember the few times they do and forget all the times they don't.
Spurs beat Warriors, lose DuncanQuote:
“We can win without Timmy in the rest of the regular season and get that top seed,” Tony Parker said. “But we’re not going anywhere in the playoffs without him.”
Jeff McDonald
http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursna...s-lose-duncan/
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Originally Posted by Hoops Czar
I really do believe this.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4>0rings
Good take! :toastQuote:
Originally Posted by Hoops Czar
Elliott also predicted that the game was over against the Celtics.
Looking at how he walked off the court with Novak giving him some, but still little support, I'd say TD has a grade 2 ankle sprain. It's not unlike when Bean sprained his but Tim carries an additional 50 lbs and his was caused by an elevated platform(Epke's foot) as opposed to just the ground itself. That compounds the situation. I'd say he's out a week and a half, but if Pop needed a reason to have Tiago play more, this pretty much cements a reason. Free Tiago.
They're way past threatening it. Whether it would have happened or not, there was more urgency to get a deal done when Bynum went down and the likelihood of their (to that point) surprising season was threatening to be derailed. The point is, let's say the Grizzlies decided to wait until after the season to trade Gasol. Had Bynum went down post deadline, they'd have been screwed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoops Czar
Are you that stupid? I know it's a dream. It was an example. Lakers fans have no right to complain when the Bynum injury led to an upgrade (whether it was going to happen or not is besides the point). Had the Spurs received an upgrade that increased their chances going forward, there would be far less reason to complain.
So far? As if he's played 4 seasons. He's got more mileage on his body than any player in the history of the game by his age, yet miraculously he hasn't had a debilitating/career altering injury. That's why I always say the Lakers luck is unprecedented in the history of North American professional sports.
I didn't say always. I said often, if it's not a debilitating injury, there's at least a scare or something that throws the team off or a key player out of rhythm.
This notion that the Spurs have been "lucky with injuries" is overblown. They've had more than the average fan knows. The difference is, unlike the Lakers, when their eighth man goes down, you don't hear about it constantly.
The one where he yelled it's goooooood when HORRY SHOT IT, only to look up and see Horry's shot miss? I swear he teased me there as well! He said it's good like it went in but it missed :( I was pissed then, if it were on radio and he said it's good I jump up and down and then it misses! Sean is a good Spurs and for us he backs us, but sometimes he is just a homer too much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
Hit the link for the chart.
http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursna...out-of-lineup/Quote:
How the Spurs have fared with Duncan in and out of lineup
Tim Griffin
...Overall, including all regular-season and playoff games, the Spurs are 848-366 with Duncan in the lineup for a winning percentage of .699. Without him, their record 34-29 for a winning percentage of .540.
Hopefully something positive comes out of Tim's injury. In years past whenever one of the big 3 got injured, other players would always step it up, which made our team much better. This is Tiago's chance to shine, dude wasn't going to get any PT but now Pop is forced to play him. The Spurs might've found a hidden gem in Novak, he is knocking down 3's with consistency and could stretch the floor for us if Bonner isn't playing well. TD will also get to rest, he'll be fresh for the playoffs.
^ ThisQuote:
Originally Posted by 4>0rings
Splitter really can use the burn to develop "on the fly" and increase his confidence.
Meanwhile Duncan can heal and be well-rested. So long as he is ready for playoff action, this slight setback can only be a blessing in disguise.
A potential win-win.
Just about any time a big guy rolls his ankle like that it is a grade 2 sprain and he is out for a couple of weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Man In Black
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We should have a way better idea of how long Tim will be out today.
Until that, fingers crossed.
Whatever forces Pop to give Splitter more minutes so he can get better and actually contribute in the playoffs is fine with me (as long as it's not serious).
Looking at the schedule, I think Tim doesn't travel for the next 3 game road trip, but then but then also misses the first home game back since it's a back to back, and comes back a week from Thursday for the home matchup versus the Celtics. That would put him missing 5 games, and a little less than 2 weeks.
The big question is, how many can the Spurs win without him? They've got Denver, Memphis, Portland, and Houston coming up. All tough challenges for Splitter.
I'm refereshing the SpursNation website for a few hours but no news yet
It's a very though schedule against the teams who has an aim to reach play-offs. Thanks that we've 7 games advantage, we should win only 6 of the remaining 12 games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Supergirl
Don't bother to much about the remaining schedule. Without Duncan I can see Pop throwing down the towel ealry on in some games if they don't start out well, saving Manu and Parker from having to tire themselves going from behind. Not that it matters too much. At this point getting the overall number one seed should be easy.
About Splitter, I see in him a lot of the qualities many poster on this site do as well, but Spurs fans should've realized by now that he's not going to be a factor in the playoffs, that's just the way it is.
an injury is never ever a blessing in disguise that is bullshit. First of all you never know how long it can take (nba is full of example of guys with a diagnosis of 2 weeks leading to 1 or 2 months recovery), then Tim isn't anymore 20 yo it could fragilize his ankle or he could compensate somehow and create another issue, finally if it will give some extended minutes for Tiago it will mean too more minutes for Dice and maybe more load to carry for Manu and TP.
At least this is not his ankle for the rest it is just a fuck injury no silver lining no blessing in disguise
Duncan out indefinitely
Indefinitely sounds worse than 2 weeks. Also, Duncan's injury described by Dice as a severe sprain. Hope they're just being cautious.
If TD is able to play 3 of 4 games before the playoffs start we'll be fine
LA has dealt with injuries. Bynum and Kobe sat at the end of the season last year. Pau sat at the beginning of the season for like 20 games last year as well. Of course the Bynum injuries each year. Kobe had to have his knee drained 3 times during last year championship run.
Mental focus to play through it is what drives them. When the team is following the leads of guys like Fisher and Kobe who play through a lot of injuries, guys fall in line and tough it out.
The 90* angle the ankle made looked bad.
I think he'll be back for the playoffs, but the longer he's out, the more worrisome this will be -- it could be Tim 2000 or Manu '09. Hopefully not.
(But losing the #1 seed should not be a problem because of this.)
Even without Duncan the rest of the regular season the Spurs will hold onto the #1 seed.
Indefinintely means indefinitely. It may sound 2 days to 2 years. But due to Duncan's injury, it shouldn't be more serious then 2 weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Capt Bringdown
I think he'll be fine
minimum 2 weeks. Good thing Rudy Gay is out so we could even coast through 1st round with a 60% Timmy
the big question here is whether it is a high ankle sprain or not. if it is, then it could be between 4-6 weeks and if not then it would be between 2-4 depending on the grade of the sprain. i guess today's MRI will tell us more. as pop indicated it's not 'flowers and lollipops' so let's hope the swelling reduced overnight.
so worst case, he is out for most of the 1st round and best case, he gets back for about 2 or 3 games before the season ends just to get some conditioning in.
Rofl - 57-13 start and this is what yahoo finally decides to write about the Spurs. Fuck them all.
That was an AP recap. Yahoo still doesn't care about the Spurs!Quote:
Originally Posted by Whisky Dog
:toast
There is like 3 weeks left in the season.. If Tim needs all 3 weeks off then so be it..
So much for 69-13 :pctoss
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Something tells me that "out indefinitely" = "out until we lose 2 in a row".
They really don't. It wasn't news when we lowered the boomstick on the Heat by 30. But when we get cack smacked by the Heat by 30, it's all over the sports front page.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2Cleva
It could workout great if Splitter gets the time he needs, he's been looking better and we will need his help come playoff time.
Splitter still doesn't look as aggressive, assertive, confident, responsible as the vids of his Euro games, so I'm expecting a lot more.
i think he's back for the Boston or Houston game. Those are b2bs so i dont think he'll play both but i think he'll be back for one of those.
Nothing we don't already know, just Smith's view of it.
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Down Goes Duncan
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Hang Time Blog
NBA.com
http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2011/0...n-goes-duncan/
Or it could work out disastrously if he is out for an extended time or can't recover properly and is prone to spraining it again come playoff time. Doubt we could win it with a 70% healthy Duncan like we did in 05.Quote:
Originally Posted by Horse
M_Monroe_in_SA Mike Monroe
Tim Duncan ankle sprain "between grade 1 and grade 2" according to Spurs GM R.C. Buford, but no time frame yet on possible return to action
M_Monroe_in_SA Mike Monroe
Duncan had MRI on left ankle Tuesday morning; prognosis for return expected in 48 to 72 hours says Buford
what does it mean: "between 1 and 2 grade"?
Results MRI in 2 days. Jeez.
2 days for results? That doesn't sound good.
Between 1 and 2 is good news. Two weeks or less.
The Spurs have never been ones to get in a hurry to give media updates.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2Cleva
http://orthoinfo.aaos.org/topic.cfm?topic=a00150Quote:
Originally Posted by iminol