Duncan update

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Originally Posted by Solid D

Timmy rolled ankle over all the way flush to the floor..almost. It looked pretty bad.

That Epke Udoh is like a newborn giraffe wearing oversized Nikes in there. He's dangerous to all of basketball mankind.

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We could use a few of those on the spurs:lol. As for the ankle sprain, I recently had a similar roll after landing on someones foot after a layup and rolled mine to the floor. I had to do therapy for a few weeks and it looked like a melon. Hopefully duncan didnt do as much damage.

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Originally Posted by TD 21

Are you that slow? (don't bother answering that; it's rhetorical . . . look it up)

I just said why he doesn't count. It has nothing to do with his ability or impact, it's about when it happened, the fact that they're well over the tax every season and the fact that the "trade" of the decade fell into their laps (conveniently).

If, in '09, the Spurs found our pre-deadline that Ginobili was done for the season, but were able to parlay a future 1st or two, Splitter's rights and a few spare parts (to make it work financially) into Wade, then I wouldn't look back at the Ginobili injury and act hard done by.

Bryant has played hurt, but he hasn't had a single injury that was too severe to play with. No micro fracture knee surgery, no broken leg, etc.

I'm aware of the projected timeline for Duncan and I'm not overreacting to it, which you'd know if you'd have comprehended my first sentence in this thread. I'm just saying, why does there almost always have to be something with the Spurs coming down the stretch and never anything with the Lakers?

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The Lakers are always threatening the tax threshold. Chalk that up to small market versus large market. The trade of the decade would have happened one way or another. Memphis saw false hopes in Kwame and were willing to pay a steep price to bring him in. That trade was inevitable and would have happened regardless. The Lakers have a keen sense and they can smell stupid coming from miles away.

The Ginobili dream package is just that... a dream. The Spurs don't have the financial flexibility to pull off a trade like that. The Spurs don't take gambles on the unknown. Being a Spurs fan, you should know this. The Spurs rarely, if ever made a big splash on an in-season trade acquisition. They pick and choose their players wisely. Its part of the reason why this franchise has remained successful for so long.

Bigs have a tendency to breakdown faster than guards and small forwards. They're more fragile and they're careers, on average, don't last as long.
Kobe's been lucky so far, however, that can change in an instant.

Count your blessing the Spurs have four championships banked. Things don't always happen to the Spurs down the stretch, you just remember the few times they do and forget all the times they don't.

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“We can win without Timmy in the rest of the regular season and get that top seed,” Tony Parker said. “But we’re not going anywhere in the playoffs without him.”

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Spurs beat Warriors, lose Duncan
Jeff McDonald

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursna...s-lose-duncan/

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Originally Posted by Hoops Czar

The Lakers are always threatening the tax threshold. Chalk that up to small market versus large market. The trade of the decade would have happened one way or another. Memphis saw false hopes in Kwame and were willing to pay a steep price to bring him in. That trade was inevitable and would have happened regardless. The Lakers have a keen sense and they can smell stupid coming from miles away.

The Ginobili dream package is just that... a dream. The Spurs don't have the financial flexibility to pull off a trade like that. The Spurs don't take gambles on the unknown. Being a Spurs fan, you should know this. The Spurs rarely, if ever made a big splash on an in-season trade acquisition. They pick and choose their players wisely. Its part of the reason why this franchise has remained successful for so long.

Bigs have a tendency to breakdown faster than guards and small forwards. They're more fragile and they're careers, on average, don't last as long.
Kobe's been lucky so far, however, that can change in an instant.

Count your blessing the Spurs have four championships banked. Things don't always happen to the Spurs down the stretch, you just remember the few times they do and forget all the times they don't.

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Originally Posted by 4>0rings

Blessing in disguise. He rests, Tiago gets major minutes. Both will be ready for playoffs. Win, win.

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I really do believe this.

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Originally Posted by Hoops Czar

The Lakers are always threatening the tax threshold. Chalk that up to small market versus large market. The trade of the decade would have happened one way or another. Memphis saw false hopes in Kwame and were willing to pay a steep price to bring him in. That trade was inevitable and would have happened regardless. The Lakers have a keen sense and they can smell stupid coming from miles away.

The Ginobili dream package is just that... a dream. The Spurs don't have the financial flexibility to pull off a trade like that. The Spurs don't take gambles on the unknown. Being a Spurs fan, you should know this. The Spurs rarely, if ever made a big splash on an in-season trade acquisition. They pick and choose their players wisely. Its part of the reason why this franchise has remained successful for so long.

Bigs have a tendency to breakdown faster than guards and small forwards. They're more fragile and they're careers, on average, don't last as long.
Kobe's been lucky so far, however, that can change in an instant.

Count your blessing the Spurs have four championships banked. Things don't always happen to the Spurs down the stretch, you just remember the few times they do and forget all the times they don't.

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Good take! :toast

Elliott also predicted that the game was over against the Celtics.

Looking at how he walked off the court with Novak giving him some, but still little support, I'd say TD has a grade 2 ankle sprain. It's not unlike when Bean sprained his but Tim carries an additional 50 lbs and his was caused by an elevated platform(Epke's foot) as opposed to just the ground itself. That compounds the situation. I'd say he's out a week and a half, but if Pop needed a reason to have Tiago play more, this pretty much cements a reason. Free Tiago.

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Originally Posted by Hoops Czar

The Lakers are always threatening the tax threshold. Chalk that up to small market versus large market. The trade of the decade would have happened one way or another. Memphis saw false hopes in Kwame and were willing to pay a steep price to bring him in. That trade was inevitable and would have happened regardless. The Lakers have a keen sense and they can smell stupid coming from miles away.

The Ginobili dream package is just that... a dream. The Spurs don't have the financial flexibility to pull off a trade like that. The Spurs don't take gambles on the unknown. Being a Spurs fan, you should know this. The Spurs rarely, if ever made a big splash on an in-season trade acquisition. They pick and choose their players wisely. Its part of the reason why this franchise has remained successful for so long.

Bigs have a tendency to breakdown faster than guards and small forwards. They're more fragile and they're careers, on average, don't last as long.
Kobe's been lucky so far, however, that can change in an instant.

Count your blessing the Spurs have four championships banked. Things don't always happen to the Spurs down the stretch, you just remember the few times they do and forget all the times they don't.

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They're way past threatening it. Whether it would have happened or not, there was more urgency to get a deal done when Bynum went down and the likelihood of their (to that point) surprising season was threatening to be derailed. The point is, let's say the Grizzlies decided to wait until after the season to trade Gasol. Had Bynum went down post deadline, they'd have been screwed.

Are you that stupid? I know it's a dream. It was an example. Lakers fans have no right to complain when the Bynum injury led to an upgrade (whether it was going to happen or not is besides the point). Had the Spurs received an upgrade that increased their chances going forward, there would be far less reason to complain.

So far? As if he's played 4 seasons. He's got more mileage on his body than any player in the history of the game by his age, yet miraculously he hasn't had a debilitating/career altering injury. That's why I always say the Lakers luck is unprecedented in the history of North American professional sports.

I didn't say always. I said often, if it's not a debilitating injury, there's at least a scare or something that throws the team off or a key player out of rhythm.

This notion that the Spurs have been "lucky with injuries" is overblown. They've had more than the average fan knows. The difference is, unlike the Lakers, when their eighth man goes down, you don't hear about it constantly.

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Originally Posted by Obstructed_View

Elliott also predicted that the game was over against the Celtics.

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The one where he yelled it's goooooood when HORRY SHOT IT, only to look up and see Horry's shot miss? I swear he teased me there as well! He said it's good like it went in but it missed :( I was pissed then, if it were on radio and he said it's good I jump up and down and then it misses! Sean is a good Spurs and for us he backs us, but sometimes he is just a homer too much.

Hit the link for the chart.

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How the Spurs have fared with Duncan in and out of lineup
Tim Griffin

...Overall, including all regular-season and playoff games, the Spurs are 848-366 with Duncan in the lineup for a winning percentage of .699. Without him, their record 34-29 for a winning percentage of .540.

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http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursna...out-of-lineup/

Hopefully something positive comes out of Tim's injury. In years past whenever one of the big 3 got injured, other players would always step it up, which made our team much better. This is Tiago's chance to shine, dude wasn't going to get any PT but now Pop is forced to play him. The Spurs might've found a hidden gem in Novak, he is knocking down 3's with consistency and could stretch the floor for us if Bonner isn't playing well. TD will also get to rest, he'll be fresh for the playoffs.

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Originally Posted by 4>0rings

Blessing in disguise. He rests, Tiago gets major minutes. Both will be ready for playoffs. Win, win.

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^ This

Splitter really can use the burn to develop "on the fly" and increase his confidence.

Meanwhile Duncan can heal and be well-rested. So long as he is ready for playoff action, this slight setback can only be a blessing in disguise.

A potential win-win.

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Originally Posted by Man In Black

Looking at how he walked off the court with Novak giving him some, but still little support, I'd say TD has a grade 2 ankle sprain. It's not unlike when Bean sprained his but Tim carries an additional 50 lbs and his was caused by an elevated platform(Epke's foot) as opposed to just the ground itself. That compounds the situation. I'd say he's out a week and a half...

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Just about any time a big guy rolls his ankle like that it is a grade 2 sprain and he is out for a couple of weeks.

Eliottt

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We should have a way better idea of how long Tim will be out today.

Until that, fingers crossed.

Whatever forces Pop to give Splitter more minutes so he can get better and actually contribute in the playoffs is fine with me (as long as it's not serious).

Looking at the schedule, I think Tim doesn't travel for the next 3 game road trip, but then but then also misses the first home game back since it's a back to back, and comes back a week from Thursday for the home matchup versus the Celtics. That would put him missing 5 games, and a little less than 2 weeks.

The big question is, how many can the Spurs win without him? They've got Denver, Memphis, Portland, and Houston coming up. All tough challenges for Splitter.

I'm refereshing the SpursNation website for a few hours but no news yet

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Originally Posted by Supergirl

Looking at the schedule, I think Tim doesn't travel for the next 3 game road trip, but then but then also misses the first home game back since it's a back to back, and comes back a week from Thursday for the home matchup versus the Celtics. That would put him missing 5 games, and a little less than 2 weeks.

The big question is, how many can the Spurs win without him? They've got Denver, Memphis, Portland, and Houston coming up. All tough challenges for Splitter.

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It's a very though schedule against the teams who has an aim to reach play-offs. Thanks that we've 7 games advantage, we should win only 6 of the remaining 12 games.

Don't bother to much about the remaining schedule. Without Duncan I can see Pop throwing down the towel ealry on in some games if they don't start out well, saving Manu and Parker from having to tire themselves going from behind. Not that it matters too much. At this point getting the overall number one seed should be easy.

About Splitter, I see in him a lot of the qualities many poster on this site do as well, but Spurs fans should've realized by now that he's not going to be a factor in the playoffs, that's just the way it is.

an injury is never ever a blessing in disguise that is bullshit. First of all you never know how long it can take (nba is full of example of guys with a diagnosis of 2 weeks leading to 1 or 2 months recovery), then Tim isn't anymore 20 yo it could fragilize his ankle or he could compensate somehow and create another issue, finally if it will give some extended minutes for Tiago it will mean too more minutes for Dice and maybe more load to carry for Manu and TP.

At least this is not his ankle for the rest it is just a fuck injury no silver lining no blessing in disguise

Duncan out indefinitely

Indefinitely sounds worse than 2 weeks. Also, Duncan's injury described by Dice as a severe sprain. Hope they're just being cautious.

If TD is able to play 3 of 4 games before the playoffs start we'll be fine