Re: Trump Tells Obama to Show the Birth Certificate
for the record, I think hes a citizen. But I dont go for this hocus pocus bullshit. and neither should any other American.
Politicians lie, placate and subdue the public every day with soothing words that are disconnected from truth.
until the public demands a govt rooted in truth, until public demands the govt to follow the letter of the law, we will have the shit that is bringing our country to its knees.
wakedafuggup.
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Wild Cobra
Don't you believe in the 4th amendment?
remind me why applicants for jobs can be legally made to piss in a bottle...
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Parker2112
remind me why applicants for jobs can be legally made to piss in a bottle...
Does that apple really taste like an orange to you?
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Wild Cobra
Does that apple really taste like an orange to you?
the president doesnt work for we the people?
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remind me why his tax records, health records, birth info, are all made public....
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Parker2112
the president doesnt work for we the people?
Again, apples and oranges.
Evidence has been presented that he is a citizen. I suppose you would agree that if any disagreement exists in a single citizen, then we have the right... maybe you think duty... to ruffle through all his personal items, papers, and effects, to get to the truth.
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So if his home state says "you dont need to see the original, we will certify that it happened the way he says...thats enough?
This leaves room for crooks and thieves to jimmy the system. Regardless of whether this president has been dishonest. Which is why you should have to produce your original birth certificate to sit as the leader of the free world. its too sensitive to allow exceptions
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Parker2112
again...your opinion is shit till you inform yourself.
I did inform myself.
I tried to inform you too, but you ignored it.
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Parker2112
So if his home state says "you dont need to see the original, we will certify that it happened the way he says...thats enough?
yes it is, unless you are a birther.
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I asked for a link to his birth certificate and you offered a link to a certification of live birth.
you thought one was the same as the other. You didnt realize there was a difference.
you were ignorant of the fact. And yet you felt justified in belittling others, even while standing in ignorance.
haha.
haha.
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Parker2112
I asked for a link to his birth certificate and you offered a link to a certification of live birth.
you thought one was the same as the other. You didnt realize there was a difference.
you were ignorant of the fact. And yet you felt justified in belittling others, even while standing in ignorance.
haha.
haha.
I feel justified in calling you a huge dumbfuck because that's what you are.
The state of Hawaii recognizes a Certification of Live Birth as being a Birth Certificate.
But don't let that stop you from showing your true birther colors.
hahahaha
hahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahaaha
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Stupid birthers
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Recently FactCheck representatives got a chance to spend some time with the birth certificate, and we can attest to the fact that it is real and three-dimensional and resides at the Obama headquarters in Chicago. We can assure readers that the certificate does bear a raised seal, and that it's stamped on the back by Hawaii state registrar Alvin T. Onaka (who uses a signature stamp rather than signing individual birth certificates). We even brought home a few photographs.
http://factcheck.org/demos/factcheck...cate/hands.jpg
http://factcheck.org/demos/factcheck.../signature.jpg
http://factcheck.org/demos/factcheck...icate/seal.jpg
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The document is a "certification of birth," also known as a short-form birth certificate. The long form is drawn up by the hospital and includes additional information such as birth weight and parents' hometowns. The short form is printed by the state and draws from a database with fewer details. The Hawaii Department of Health's birth record request form does not give the option to request a photocopy of your long-form birth certificate, but their short form has enough information to be acceptable to the State Department. We tried to ask the Hawaii DOH why they only offer the short form, among other questions, but they have not given a response.
The scan released by the campaign shows halos around the black text, making it look (to some) as though the text might have been pasted on top of an image of security paper. But the document itself has no such halos, nor do the close-up photos we took of it. We conclude that the halo seen in the image produced by the campaign is a digital artifact from the scanning process.
Fact check
Let's drop the BS...this isn't about a birth certificate, its about Obama being black....no other President has had to prove that he was born in the U.S.
Obama Has.
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Nbadan
Horseshit.
Its known that he spent considerable time overseas at a very early age. Its an issue.
And EVERY president has had to prove they were born in the US.
And Obama still refuses to erase all doubts. If the Certification of Live Birth isnt conclusive in a court of law, then why is it conclusive here? None of you can answer that, because there is no good reason. Yet sheep accept it as conclusory, because your fucking told to. wtf.
Sure some racist jackasses use this as a means of pursuing him out of office, but the validity and transparency of our govt means something to others as well, those who see the reigns on govt as loose and free, and the stagecoach heading for a cliff...
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Read the damn document:
If the Certification of Live Birth isnt conclusive in a court of law, then why is it conclusive here?
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Stupider sheep...
glad I could school you...
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Parker2112
Thats not a birth certificate. it is a certification of live birth.
:lol
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read at the bottom. it says "prima facie evidence in a court of law." If it was a birth certificate, its more than prima facie. its conclusive evidence.
:lmao
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Parker2112
Stupider sheep...
glad I could school you...
:rollin
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Parker2112
Read the damn document:
If the Certification of Live Birth isnt conclusive in a court of law, then why is it conclusive here?
hey, fuckhead his mom is from Kansas=American. he came out of her womb=American.
...............and you can't question that....what is your fucking malfunction.
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Parker2112
So if his home state says "you dont need to see the original, we will certify that it happened the way he says...thats enough?
This leaves room for crooks and thieves to jimmy the system. Regardless of whether this president has been dishonest. Which is why you should have to produce your original birth certificate to sit as the leader of the free world. its too sensitive to allow exceptions
I suppose in your conspiracy theory world, someone went back in time to report to the local newspaper, and put his name in the live births section.
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Originally Posted by
Parker2112
Horseshit.
Its known that he spent considerable time overseas at a very early age. Its an issue.
And EVERY president has had to prove they were born in the US.
And Obama still refuses to erase all doubts. If the Certification of Live Birth isnt conclusive in a court of law, then why is it conclusive here? None of you can answer that, because there is no good reason. Yet sheep accept it as conclusory, because your fucking told to. wtf.
Sure some racist jackasses use this as a means of pursuing him out of office, but the validity and transparency of our govt means something to others as well, those who see the reigns on govt as loose and free, and the stagecoach heading for a cliff...
So what?
Time spent in the USA is not a criteria. I wish we could disqualify the incompetent jackass, but he meets the qualifications as required by law.
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hemann82
oh and I want to see McCain's birth certificate because I'm not sure he was born in the U.S. controlled zone in Panama!
oh wait it doesn't matter because McCain is [old]
I would say for that matter, Obama is more qualified. It would be far easier to question McCain's legitimacy for citizenship by birth.
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hemann82
the reason obama doesn't show the original copy of his birth certificate is because by law he doesn't have to -- and frankly it's fucking insulting for him (or anyone) to seriously entertain birthers' whacked-out, baseless accusations that are motivated by, at best, partisanship
I agree to some aspect, except I think he doesn't show it because he likes how stupid the argument makes people look. You know, people like Parker.