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Re: Trump Tells Obama to Show the Birth Certificate
Education for jackasses:
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So you want to be president? Forget the nerves of steel, the charisma, the skeleton-free closet, the fund-raising network, the thick skin and the legions of loyal folks who agree with your stance on all the issues. Just to get into the game, you have to ask: How old are you and where were you born?
- Only native-born U.S. citizens (or those born abroad, but only to parents who were both citizens of the U.S.) may be president of the United States
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When is the Kenyan gonna release his birth certificate?
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Re: Trump Tells Obama to Show the Birth Certificate
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Parker2112
remind me why applicants for jobs can be legally made to piss in a bottle...
You can refuse to piss in a bottle.
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:lmao
This thread is too good.
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MannyIsGod
You can refuse to piss in a bottle.
Then you would no longer be an applicant.
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Parker2112
Education for jackasses:[/LIST]
fuckhead if he father resided here for school, or work and his mother is from Kansas he still and American by parents.
not to mention the fact you ignorant bastard, he was born in Honolulu, HI.
in 1961.
I think Hawaii is state of the U.S.A.
so he is a citizen by birth and by blood......what an asshole.
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Originally Posted by
Parker2112
Education for jackasses:
Whichever jackass wrote that was very wrong.
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Originally Posted by
Parker2112
Then you would no longer be an applicant.
And?
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PublicOption
fuckhead if he father resided here for school, or work and his mother is from Kansas he still and American by parents.
not to mention the fact you ignorant bastard, he was born in Honolulu, HI.
in 1961.
I think Hawaii is state of the U.S.A.
so he is a citizen by birth and by blood......what an asshole.
cover up, your bloomers are showing :wow
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ChumpDumper
Whichever jackass wrote that was very wrong.
Educate yourself: look up the difference between prima facie and conclusive evidence.
With this in your belt, you'll go far in understanding this issue... beyond just owning an opinion. :toast
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Originally Posted by
Parker2112
Educate yourself: look up the difference between prima facie and conclusive evidence.
With this in your belt, you'll go far in understanding this issue... beyond just owning an opinion. :toast
Look up prima facie again.
For the first time.
And I wasn't even talking about that. Educate yourself about your own post I linked. And I don't mean copy a post from the abovetopsecret forums that was completely wrong.
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OK, Parker. Tell me: What evidence do you have to contradict the prima facie evidence that is Obama's birth certificate?
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ChumpDumper
Look up prima facie again.
For the first time.
And I wasn't even talking about that. Educate yourself about your own post I linked. And I don't mean copy a post from the abovetopsecret forums that was completely wrong.
i dont have to look it up. it means on its face. It creates a presumption. But it is rebuttable. Conclusive evidence is not rebuttable.
You could rebut a valid certification of live birth. You cant rebut a valid birth certificate.
..its conclusive. You can only attack its authenticity.
Think this through, Chump.
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ChumpDumper
OK, Parker. Tell me: What evidence do you have to contradict the prima facie evidence that is Obama's birth certificate?
I dont need to be arguing this in an internet discussion.
THATS THE WHOLE DAMN POINT.
Give me conclusive or give me death. :sleep
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Parker, for being a self described libertarian, how does "guilty until proven innocent" fit into your beliefs?
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Wild Cobra
Parker, for being a self described libertarian, how does "guilty until proven innocent" fit into your beliefs?
dont even get me started on "self-described libertarian" WC...you need to turn in your libertarian card last week :lol
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Parker2112
I dont need to be arguing this in an internet discussion.
THATS THE WHOLE DAMN POINT.
Give me conclusive or give me death. :sleep
So you don't have anything to contradict the prima facie evidence.
That's the whole damn point.
Does this mean you are going to kill yourself now?
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Parker2112
dont even get me started on "self-described libertarian" WC...you need to turn in your libertarian card last week :lol
Just answer the part about your concept of guilty until proven innocent. You know, that's one reason we had the revolutionary war.
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I hate to get all metaphysical, but wouldn't conclusive evidence for any person be first-hand experience?
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ChumpDumper
So you don't have anything to contradict the prima facie evidence.
That's the whole damn point.
Does this mean you are going to kill yourself now?
If eligibility comes into question, our elected officials should be more than happen to piss in the bottle. We the public should be more than justified in asking for the piss test, and waiting on the results. And they should provide it with a smile.
And if you claim the burden is on the taxpayer to prove ineligibility (which only a brainwashed sheep would do), then you fuck your argument harder, because the public has no acces to this document, and Obama and the govt do. Burden on them again. Let he with access be made to prove the matter.
And by your argument, public policy would be undermined completely, because govt officials could game the system all day every day.
Brainwashed and fucked-by-gov always your motto, Chump?
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Oh, Gee!!
I hate to get all metaphysical, but wouldn't conclusive evidence for any person be first-hand experience?
In court, a judge is bound in certain cirumstances to instruct the jury that it MUST find certain facts as true. That is conclusive evidence.
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Wild Cobra
Just answer the part about your concept of guilty until proven innocent. You know, that's one reason we had the revolutionary war.
this isn't a criminal charge.
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Oh, Gee!!
I hate to get all metaphysical, but wouldn't conclusive evidence for any person be first-hand experience?
You're right, and that's why Parker will never be satisfied.
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Originally Posted by
Parker2112
this isn't a criminal charge.
Agreed. However, the way you carry on about it, it may as well be. Besides, your notion that he must prove he is a citizen equates to he must prove he didn't conspire in a crime of forgery or worse.
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Originally Posted by
Parker2112
In court, a judge is bound in certain cirumstances to instruct the jury that it MUST find certain facts as true. That is conclusive evidence.
wouldn't the same be true for "un-rebutted" prima facie evidence?