The San Antonio Spurs have signed Da'Sean Butler.

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Originally Posted by TD 21

If not in a package deal for a second big, then maybe a straight up trade for another young player on his rookie deal, who's not getting a lot of playing time. Maybe someone projected to be late lottery falls to around twenty, they could offer Anderson and their 1st to move up. The point is, it gives the Spurs options, without worrying about decimating their depth. It's not about giving up on him, it's about having the depth, with Neal's emergence and Butler's signing (again, if they're confident/he shows flashes indicating he's going to become what he was projected to become), to fill a hole elsewhere.

Based on their comments, it sounds like Butler is guaranteed for next season. As I suspected. It makes sense, because they're not going to get anything out of him this season. Although, since the guarantee was probably fairly minimal, if they're really underwhelmed with him between now and the start of next season and confident in their depth on the wings, I'm sure they wouldn't hesitate to cut him. I don't expect that to happen, though.

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Product familiarity and team chemistry are not to be discounted. My point was more general to the folks that immediately said this makes Neal, Anderson, Ghill trade bait.. It doesn't. If we trade him it's because we don't think he will be able to stay healthy..

Whoever this is, he agrees with your comparison to Dudley. He has a lot of information about Butler, but I don't know how reliable the information is. Better than nothing.

http://www.briansbigboard.com/player/da-sean-butler

Apparently he has rather odd shooting mechanics. Hopefully Chip can help him with that.

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Originally Posted by Darkwaters

I'm curious why Miami drafted him, knowing he wouldn't be playing anytime soon, and then proceeded to cut him before the season. It's not like he played his way out of the rotation - he didn't play at all.

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They cut him because Mike Miller was injured and they needed a wing. their roster was full so they had to waive him before signing Stackhouse. I guess that they weren't also please with his knee recovery.

At the end, it didn't work for Miami. They spend the 42th pick on him and gave him $300K for nothing. On top of that Stackhouse sucked and was cut.

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Originally Posted by PhingerRoll

Product familiarity and team chemistry are not to be discounted. My point was more general to the folks that immediately said this makes Neal, Anderson, Ghill trade bait.. It doesn't. If we trade him it's because we don't think he will be able to stay healthy..

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How much familiarity and chemistry has Anderson accumulated? He's barely been around the team, much less played. I agree that it doesn't automatically make Anderson trade bait. But it frees them up now to trade Anderson without decimating their depth on the wings. If they trade him, it won't be because of health, it'll be because of depth on the wings and not enough depth amongst the bigs, with McDyess likely retiring.

nice no risk move, hopefully he can return to full shape as before the injury, once in college when he was healthy, i compared him to Carlos Delfino, so is a player that could play some if being 100 percent.

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Originally Posted by tdunk21

cool..then u might be able to tell us all his strengths and weakness....

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He was a solid shooter in college, not at the level of James Anderson as someone compared somewhere in this thread, but he can create his shot and drive to the basket fairly well. In the NBA he should be considered an average athlete and an average defender, but where I think he's a little underrated is his d in the paint is pretty good, he's got solid size and strength and imo could play combo forward for us. He's clutch too and shows up big when called upon. That's my take on him.

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Originally Posted by 8FOR!3

He was a solid shooter in college, not at the level of James Anderson as someone compared somewhere in this thread, but he can create his shot and drive to the basket fairly well. In the NBA he should be considered an average athlete and an average defender, but where I think he's a little underrated is his d in the paint is pretty good, he's got solid size and strength and imo could play combo forward for us. He's clutch too and shows up big when called upon. That's my take on him.

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thanx

Interesting move. I don't know a great deal about him, but I like how the Spurs are willing to take a punt on a guy like this. Hope it works out for the guy.

Looks like Ryan Richards will be stashed for another season :(

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Originally Posted by TD 21

How much familiarity and chemistry has Anderson accumulated? He's barely been around the team, much less played. I agree that it doesn't automatically make Anderson trade bait. But it frees them up now to trade Anderson without decimating their depth on the wings. If they trade him, it won't be because of health, it'll be because of depth on the wings and not enough depth amongst the bigs, with McDyess likely retiring.

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Quite a bit actually. An entire off season with the team and most of the season this year aside from injury time. He obviously accumulated a good bit for him to even see the floor under coach Pop. He was doing great pre-injury. Again, to trade him for anything of value would require a rather lop sided trade, and not in our favor.

Sure it gives us options, but trading productive youth that is signed for cheap is not a very valid one. What if Butler doesn't pan out(i hope he does)? Not to mention, they don't even play the same position. Sure, JA was getting a minute or two here and there as a SF, but he is a SG. Now if we can do a lakers/gasol type trade for him, by all means, let's. Other than that, there isn't a lot of upside in trading away young talented players that fit your team...

Free agency would be a much more valid option for us to acquire our fifth big... Our roster is too deep and the chemistry is too good to go fuckin around with it in hopes that we might find an ok fifth big man. Not to mention we shouldn't fuck around with the roster when our time left with Timmy is getting thin.

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Originally Posted by IknowU

Looks like Ryan Richards will be stashed for another season :(

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As he should be. No way he could help next year..

Free Da'Sean!!!!!!

Wow, this could turn out to be a great investment move!

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Originally Posted by Bruno

They cut him because Mike Miller was injured and they needed a wing. their roster was full so they had to waive him before signing Stackhouse. I guess that they weren't also please with his knee recovery.

At the end, it didn't work for Miami. They spend the 42th pick on him and gave him $300K for nothing. On top of that Stackhouse sucked and was cut.

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Miami still owes him money for next season, too, right? So they're sort of subsidizing the Spurs on this?

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Originally Posted by toki9

Miami still owes him money for next season, too, right? So they're sort of subsidizing the Spurs on this?

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No, they don't:
http://www.shamsports.com/content/pa...aries/heat.jsp

Reports said that several teams were interested in Butler so it possible that Spurs have used some creating financing to get Butler with their MLE.

It will be interesting to have Butler's contract details because it will show what kind of commitment Spurs have made with him. My guess is that Spurs have made a true investment on Butler unlike for a player like Danny Green who will be more a training camp fodder.

It's ovah, hand over the LOB, no sense in playing the playoffs.

Is the future bright or are the spurs being a little too risky?

JA- Missed alot time of this season with injuries..
Splitter- missed alot of time this season with injuries..
Richards- Did not play ball this season anywhere due to surgeries..
Butler- Missed the entire season due to a major injury..

Hopefully these guys have gotten all the injuries out of the way early..

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Originally Posted by IknowU

Looks like Ryan Richards will be stashed for another season :(

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How do you know for sure? If he signs with the Spurs this summer, I actually see him being on the roster.

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Originally Posted by yavozerb

Is the future bright or are the spurs being a little too risky?

JA- Missed alot time of this season with injuries..
Splitter- missed alot of time this season with injuries..
Richards- Did not play ball this season anywhere due to surgeries..
Butler- Missed the entire season due to a major injury..

Hopefully these guys have gotten all the injuries out of the way early..

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For 3 of the 4 this is like their first major injury. Though Splitter supposedly has a history of lots of minor injuries.

A 3 point shooter thats taller than 6'6"! Not bad as a project player although he likely won't be contributing much this season and needs a lot of work on the defensive end. A lot of work.

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Originally Posted by yavozerb

Is the future bright or are the spurs being a little too risky?

JA- Missed alot time of this season with injuries..
Splitter- missed alot of time this season with injuries..
Richards- Did not play ball this season anywhere due to surgeries..
Butler- Missed the entire season due to a major injury..

Hopefully these guys have gotten all the injuries out of the way early..

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None of those guys are breaking the bank so they can be traded if they do become too fragile for the NBA. With the lockout coming they might also benefit from the extended downtime to heal up and they're all young and brimming with potential. However thats one underrated advantage with Richard Jefferson...dude's built like a tank and hardly misses any games.

I'd like to bring some reality in here. He wasn't a lottery pick before the injury. He was down in the first round category where less than 20% of the picks make it on any team and those aren't stars, just rotation bench players.

He COULD make it back after the injury and COULD become a player--but let's not get carried away that we've picked up a future All-Star.

He seems like a nice young kid and I hope he makes it because it would be a great story.