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Re: Obama’s War on Libya: A Constitutional View
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Originally Posted by
Parker2112
Someone has already told you what it says, and you have taken their hand pretty readily.
If you really want to know, youll read the damn thing.
Already read it. I asked you to do the same. Have you read it?
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Your the one trying to contradict wikipedia.
There are not enough :lmao in the world to express my feelings. I guess you consider wikipedia to be prima facie evidence.
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Re: Obama’s War on Libya: A Constitutional View
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Originally Posted by
Winehole23
(Admittedly, many are.)
are which?
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Re: Obama’s War on Libya: A Constitutional View
Literalists, morons or both.
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Re: Obama’s War on Libya: A Constitutional View
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Originally Posted by
ChumpDumper
Already read it. I asked you to do the same. Have you read it?
There are not enough :lmao in the world to express my feelings. I guess you consider wikipedia to be prima facie evidence.
Not at all, but its right on this issue right off the bat, and you have yet to presnt anything other than brief and conclusory personal opinion backed by nothing. Even less than wikipedia...if you will.
The reason is you cant rely on anything for your take, other than your past flawed understanding.
Since when did you start using WC logic, chump?
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Re: Obama’s War on Libya: A Constitutional View
Conceded in the first 4 paragraphs of the resolution:
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(c) The constitutional powers of the President as Commander-in-Chief to introduce United States Armed Forces into hostilities, or into situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances, are exercised only pursuant to (1) a declaration of war, (2) specific statutory authorization, or (3) a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces.
http://www.policyalmanac.org/world/a...solution.shtml
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CONSULTATION
SEC. 3. The President in every possible instance shall consult with Congress before introducing United States Armed Forces into hostilities or into situation where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances, and after every such introduction shall consult regularly with the Congress until United States Armed Forces are no longer engaged in hostilities or have been removed from such situations.
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Re: Obama’s War on Libya: A Constitutional View
Reporting after the fact is only allowed where...
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REPORTING
SEC. 4. (a) In the absence of a declaration of war, in any case in which United States Armed Forces are introduced--
(1) into hostilities or into situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances;
(2) into the territory, airspace or waters of a foreign nation, while equipped for combat, except for deployments which relate solely to supply, replacement, repair, or training of such forces; or
(3) in numbers which substantially enlarge United States Armed Forces equipped for combat already located in a foreign nation; the president shall submit within 48 hours to the Speaker of the House
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Re: Obama’s War on Libya: A Constitutional View
Notice there are no provisions that allow unilateral military action initiated by the executive branch in situations other than attack or imminent involvement of our forces.
This would rule out military action for HUMANITARIAN efforts.
Reading skills failing you much, chump?
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Re: Obama’s War on Libya: A Constitutional View
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Re: Obama’s War on Libya: A Constitutional View
Parker, that is not the constitution, and congress cannot pass laws that deny the president his powers.
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Re: Obama’s War on Libya: A Constitutional View
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Originally Posted by
Wild Cobra
Parker, that is not the constitution, and congress cannot pass laws that deny the president his powers.
Except you already said that the provision that says the exec may declare war is t in the Constitution. So if Congress passed a law stating that, how would it go against the Constitution?
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Re: Obama’s War on Libya: A Constitutional View
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Originally Posted by
Parker2112
Reporting after the fact is only allowed where...
There was no reporting after the fact in this case. Everybody in the world knows this except you.
You don't even understand the simplest concepts here.
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Re: Obama’s War on Libya: A Constitutional View
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Originally Posted by
ChumpDumper
There was no reporting after the fact in this case. Everybody in the world knows this except you.
You don't even understand the simplest concepts here.
This is general schooling that goes back to my first point..I didnt address this case specifically...nice try on saving face though.
whether you admit it or not, you now understand that without either(1) prior agression against us or (2) threat of imminent conflict, then (3) exec branch must have congressional approval to take military action.
You should quit trying to save face if it means confusing others at this point, Chump. Let the truth prevail, even if it stings a lil.
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Re: Obama’s War on Libya: A Constitutional View
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Originally Posted by
Parker2112
This is general schooling that goes back to my first point..I didnt address this case specifically...nice try on saving face though.
whether you admit it or not, you now understand that without either(1) prior agression against us or (2) threat of imminent conflict, then (3) exec branch must have congressional approval to take military action.
You should quite trying to save face if it means confusing others at this point, Chump. Let the truth prevail, even if it stings a lil.
You thought you had a point, but you didn't even know that there was prior reporting to Congress before the Libya action. You have been kicked in the balls by your own ignorance.
Again.
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Re: Obama’s War on Libya: A Constitutional View
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Originally Posted by
ChumpDumper
You thought you had a point, but you didn't even know that there was prior reporting to Congress before the Libya action. You have been kicked in the balls by your own ignorance.
Again.
reporting doesnt mean shit unless we have been attacked or there is imminent threat, ya dumb-sum-bitch. :ihit
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Re: Obama’s War on Libya: A Constitutional View
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Originally Posted by
Parker2112
Reporting after the fact is only allowed where...
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Originally Posted by
Parker2112
reporting doesnt mean shit unless we have been attacked or there is imminent threat, ya dumb-sum-bitch. :ihit
Left something out this time around, didn't you?
You make this so easy....
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Re: Obama’s War on Libya: A Constitutional View
picking at words trying to make a scab bleed when your fucking legs have been lopped off...hilarious...
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Re: Obama’s War on Libya: A Constitutional View
your ego runs on high octane, chump.
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Re: Obama’s War on Libya: A Constitutional View
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Originally Posted by
Parker2112
picking at words trying to make a scab bleed when your fucking legs have been lopped off...hilarious...
They're your words.
Why did you leave them out the second time around?
You had them right the first time, even though you failed to actually understand them.
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Re: Obama’s War on Libya: A Constitutional View
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Originally Posted by
ChumpDumper
They're your words.
Why did you leave them out the second time around?
You had them right the first time, even though you failed to actually understand them.
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Re: Obama’s War on Libya: A Constitutional View
consider yourself dumped. Have a great sunday chump. :toast
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Re: Obama’s War on Libya: A Constitutional View
I figured you would have to run away at some point. You embarrassed yourself and you don't even know how you did it. :toast
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Re: Obama’s War on Libya: A Constitutional View
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Originally Posted by
Viva Las Espuelas
And he's yet to talk to the American people and tell us why. Almost a week later.
I'm thinking that the American people can figure out why on their own; I mean with the ruthlessly efficient machine that is Congress, they probably would have taken another couple of weeks to decide on the matter.