The Official Jefferson and Bonner Complaint Thread

RJ's had fewer shots because he's not the best option. I'd rather give those looks to Hill and Neal, to be quite honest. That being said, RJ's hitting those 3s, and as long as he continues to do so then I'm not going to be upset with him.

Yeah, we all wish he would provide more but he is what he is and if he can play decent D and hit those 3s thats pretty much all we need from him.

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Originally Posted by xellos88330

I expect things to change in the playoffs. If he doesn't perform, sayonara.

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I stopped expecting different last playoffs. If he doesn't perform, he'll be back again next season and we'll rehash this same old story. It's been Deja Vu for, now, the 3rd season in a row. Hope he proves me wrong.

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Originally Posted by Isitjustme?

RJ is on a straight nose dive, if he gets even worse over the next three years watch out :depressed

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I think that's what an acquisition like DeSean Butler is supposed to be for. Look for R Jeffs minutes to be curbed substantially in the 2012-2013 season.

3 more years...:depressed

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Originally Posted by Dex

3 more years...:depressed

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Aren't we paying less than we were with his original contract?

This xelos is obviously a Bonner homer, has he seen any of the games this year, apparently he hasn't. Ginger's role is to shoot the three and stretch the floor, and he can't even do that when it matters. Who cares if he shot 50% in January and February this year. This team has title ambitions, not to just make the playoffs. His career playoff average is 32% from three, in last 12 games he's shooting 25%. He has consistently failed. If he can't do what he's overpayed to do, then what use is he? He's a permanent mismatch defensivelly, he can't rebound, hustle, pass, handle...you name it he sucks at it.

This comes down to polishing a turd. Both Bonner and RJ are turds. We can all sit around talking about how they need to improve, but they aren't getting any better than they are/were. On their best nights they are polished turds. Most nights they are just turds. It doesn't matter how much you polish them, they are still turds. Bonner isn't going to get a killer crossover nor is RJ going to actually become effective on either end of the floor. Bonner isn't going to learn to shoot over a defender who's still 5 feet from him instead of putting the ball on the floor. RJ isn't going to suddenly start making good decisions and rotations on defense, and isn't going to get handles like TP. It's not going to happen. They have to work with what they are tasked with doing. Bonner needs to keep shooting the 3 and RJ needs to look for that one alley oop during the home games.

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Originally Posted by DMC

This comes down to polishing a turd. Both Bonner and RJ are turds. We can all sit around talking about how they need to improve, but they aren't getting any better than they are/were. On their best nights they are polished turds. Most nights they are just turds. It doesn't matter how much you polish them, they are still turds. Bonner isn't going to get a killer crossover nor is RJ going to actually become effective on either end of the floor. Bonner isn't going to learn to shoot over a defender who's still 5 feet from him instead of putting the ball on the floor. RJ isn't going to suddenly start making good decisions and rotations on defense, and isn't going to get handles like TP. It's not going to happen. They have to work with what they are tasked with doing. Bonner needs to keep shooting the 3 and RJ needs to look for that one alley oop during the home games.

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I get you.........

But, turds?

:lol

Jefferson looks kind of chunky, he needs to take it easy on the buffet.

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Originally Posted by Manu_Forever

Neal is incredibly overrated in this forum. Almost to the point of absurdity. He is an excellent shooter and he has a nice floater. Other than that he pretty much sucks at every facet of the game.

But yes, he is better than Jefferson is.

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Originally Posted by Manu_Forever

Neal is incredibly overrated in this forum. Almost to the point of absurdity. He is an excellent shooter and he has a nice floater. Other than that he pretty much sucks at every facet of the game.

But yes, he is better than Jefferson is.

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I'll take the bait here:

Neal is not overrated. If Neal was making 13 million a year, he would be slightly overrated. He's making half a mil now. He's a rookie. He's ballin'. He's anything but overrated.

Neal could easily have been the 2nd coming of Ime Udoka. Mixed into a group of James White and Alonzo "Dunk on Yo Ass" Gee types, it's easy for a below the rim player to go unnoticed if he doesn't get much playing time. Gary capitalized damn quick on his minutes.

You see people slack off RJ on the perimeter, but they almost double Neal. Neal can put the ball on the floor and create his own shot. RJ can too at times, but Neal is fearless.

Sorry, Gary Neal is absolutely not overrated.

Anyone saying neal is overrated automatically loses all credibility. It would be pointless listing all the reasons why, since clearly you haven't watched spurs play this season. I now see why you call this manuforever/kbp character an idiot.