Jump in drug price called ‘outrageous’

Critics slam cost of FDA-approved drug to prevent preterm births

By Rob Stein, Monday, March 28, 9:07 PM

When a drug to prevent babies from being born too early won federal approval in February, many doctors, pregnant women and others cheered the step as a major advance against a heartbreaking tragedy.

Then they saw the price tag.

The list price for the drug, Makena, turned out to be a stunning $1,500 per dose. That’s for a drug that must be injected every week for about 20 weeks, meaning it will cost about $30,000 per at-risk pregnancy. If every eligible American woman were to get Makena, the nation’s bloated annual health-care tab would swell by more than $4 billion.

What really infuriates patients and doctors is that the same compound has been available for years at a fraction of the cost — about $10 or $20 a shot.

“It’s outrageous,” said Helain J. Landy, chairman of obstetrics and gynecology at Georgetown University Hospital. “Raising the cost of each injection from around $20 to $1,500 is ludicrous.”

The company that owns Makena, KV Pharmaceutical of St. Louis, says the price is reasonable, given that it is spending more than $200 million to develop the drug and conduct follow-up studies that the Food and Drug Administration demands, and because of the savings resulting from preventing preterm births. Through a subsidiary, Ther-Rx Corp., the company created a program to help women who can’t afford it.

“Ther-Rx is fundamentally committed to the community of women, children and families it serves and has been carefully listening to all stakeholders following the announcement of the list price for Makena,” the company said in an e-mail.

Critics are challenging that claim, noting that the main study used to demonstrate the drug’s effectiveness was a $5 million project conducted by the National Institutes of Health — paid by taxpayers.

“It’s not like this drug is something they invented,” said George Saade, president of the Society for Maternal-Fetal Medicine, which, along with the American Congress of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG) and the American Academy of Pediatrics, sent KV a letter protesting Makena’s price. “I think the company is taking advantage of their FDA approval and their monopoly to make money.”

In addition to making the drug unaffordable for some women, experts fret about the added costs for insurers that choose to pay for it, especially Medicaid programs already being slashed in states struggling with deficits.

“I’m worried about the patients not being able to afford the medication. I’m worried about our health-care system not being able to afford to pay this kind of price for a medication. And I’m worried about a process that enabled a drug that was readily available to go on to be become very expensive,” said Hal C. Lawrence III, vice president of practice activities at ACOG.

The case has put a spotlight on the March of Dimes, which has received about $1 million in donations from Ther-Rx and praised Makena when it was approved, only to later criticize the price.

“They were clearly holding back the price until after the FDA approval process,” said Alan R. Fleischman, March of Dimes’s medical director. “When we found out, we were as outraged as everyone else.”

More than 500,000 of the 4.2 million women who have babies each year give birth prematurely, and many of the babies don’t survive. Those who do are at increased risk for many health problems, including mental retardation, cerebral palsy and autism.

A form of progesterone known as 17P was used for years to reduce the risk of preterm birth, but it fell out of favor after the manufacturing company stopped making it. In 2003, the NIH study showed that 17P could cut the risk of preterm delivery if given in the first 16 to 24 weeks of pregnancy. That led to a resurgence in the use of 17P. Because no companies marketed the drug, women obtained it cheaply from “compounding” pharmacies, which produced individual batches for them.

Doctors and regulators had long worried about the purity and consistency of the drug and were pleased when KV won FDA’s imprimatur for a well-studied version, which the company is selling as Makena.

The approval of Makena gave the company seven years of exclusive rights, and KV immediately fired off letters to compounding pharmacies, warning that they could no longer sell their versions of drug.

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What bullshit...fucking lawyer/leeches.

Lawyers are responsible for this, how?

This was no medical research breakthrough by doctors and researchers. They took a known, existing compound and pushed it through the legal FDA approval process and then jacked the price X1000. Thats a function of legalized monopoly and not medicine.

In an interview with The Washington Post on Friday, an FDA official said that, if requested, the agency could approve a lower-priced generic version of the drug for another use that doctors could prescribe “off label.”

Get off your fucking ass and do it. Consider this a 'request.'

In addition, the official said the agency would not prevent compounding pharmacies from continuing to provide 17P unless patient safety is thought to be at risk.

“We have our hands full pursuing our enforcement priorities,” said the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the issue. “And it’s not illegal for a physician to write a prescription for a compounded drug or for a patient to take a compounded drug. We certainly are concerned about access of patients to medication.”

So any doctor who prescribes this 'new' drug instead of the cheap compound is probably getting kickbacks from Fakena.

I admit complete ignorance of a lot of this kind of stuff, but why does FDA approval give a company a monopoly on a drug?

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I admit complete ignorance of a lot of this kind of stuff, but why does FDA approval give a company a monopoly on a drug?

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It's similar to patent law. The theory is that by giving them 7 years protection against generic price competition it encourages drug companies to spend money on research for new drugs, knowing they will have a monopoly on the drug for 7 years to get their research investment back.

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It's similar to patent law. The theory is that by giving them 7 years protection against generic price competition it encourages drug companies to spend money on research for new drugs, knowing they will have a monopoly on the drug for 7 years to get their research investment back.

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I would love to see the amortization figures for research recoup. I suspect they are likely some of the best fiction written.

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This was no medical research breakthrough by doctors and researchers. They took a known, existing compound and pushed it through the legal FDA approval process and then jacked the price X1000. Thats a function of legalized monopoly and not medicine.

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Looks that way to me too, but fail to see why blame settles on the lawyers. Do they set prices for KV?

Are You People ever going to realize how the vampire-squid corps, Corporate-Americans, and the regulators they've captured, compromised, and corrupted, are sucking dry, into poverty, Human-Americans?

AND that the Corporate-American extortionate blood-sucking can't be stopped?

You're not the only one with open eyes, boutons.

But he's definately the only one with that vocabulary.:lol

@boutons:

If other posters fail to be an echo of you, that's hardly a sign they don't get it. Regulatory capture and the prevalent oligarchic tendency have hardly passed unacknowledged here. If you think not, you haven't been paying attention.

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Thank God.

Never have I been astounded with such whimsical hyphenated wizardry in my life.

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It's similar to patent law. The theory is that by giving them 7 years protection against generic price competition it encourages drug companies to spend money on research for new drugs, knowing they will have a monopoly on the drug for 7 years to get their research investment back.

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Is it that easy to 'reverse-engineer' the components of these drugs? I mean, people haven't found out the recipe to Coke yet... is a drug that much easier?

Why aren't the firms developing these drugs just build a good security program, make the people working there sign NDAs, etc etc?

I'd imagine its extremely easy to reverse engineer these drugs.

Also - I believe Easjer posted about this recently in the club. Its highway robbery, imo. I wouldn't blame lawyers but I would blame capitalists.

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Some are some aren't. Biologics are extremely difficult to reverse engineer.

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Also - I believe Easjer posted about this recently in the club. Its highway robbery, imo. I wouldn't blame lawyers but I would blame capitalists.

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This.

Lawyers are just a tool to be employed in this instance.

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Then how come no one can figure out what Coke is made of? :D

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*Dale Gribble Voice* Who says no one has?

Also, this system puts so much emphasis on drugs that can make huge money as opposed to those that are able to actually save lives. IE: Viagra.

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*Dale Gribble Voice* Who says no one has?

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According to recent news, some people believe they have...

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/coca-...2914877&page=2

Still, 100+ years for a recipe?

Maybe drug companies need to start talking to food producers :)

Related:

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201...-decades.shtml

Ridiculing "VRWC" is very strong here. VRWC is real, it's highly effective, it's been going on for decades, data such as this drug pricing are everywhere, and VRWC unstoppable and increasing (see the asshole Repug govts in Mich, OH, WI, Indiana).

So GFY.

Putting all the evils of the world down to one, big all-encompassing conspiracy is rhetorically and substantively weak.

VRWC is highly complex, truly vast, powerful($$$), and effective.

VRWC is shorthand for a very broad, pervasive phenomenon. All the major problems the UCA faces right now are due to the VRWC's multi-decade policies intent on rolling back UCA to the 1920s or 1890s. Terrorism's potential impact on UCA is trivial compared to the actual impact of VRWC, including VRWC exploting terrorism to further enrich, empower, and entrench itself (ie, invading Iraq of oil, and privatizing that war).

That's just pitiful, boutons.

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VRWC is highly complex, truly vast, powerful($$$), and effective.

VRWC is shorthand for a very broad, pervasive phenomenon. All the major problems the UCA faces right now are due to the VRWC's multi-decade policies intent on rolling back UCA to the 1920s or 1890s. Terrorism's potential impact on UCA is trivial compared to the actual impact of VRWC, including VRWC exploting terrorism to further enrich, empower, and entrench itself (ie, invading Iraq of oil, and privatizing that war).

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Is Boutons a troll account from Galileo? That would make more sense than the the rich, powerful elite purposefully using American citizens as pawns in an elaborate conspiracy to enrich themselves.

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That's much easier than delineating whom among the powerful elite, whatever the fuck that means today, is part of this conspiratorial cabal. Broad brushes paint easier I guess.

You guys are just asking to be bitch-slapped. wait for it.

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Perhaps. But you ain't wearing the boots to do it.:lol

This happens all the time. You take a drug that is already known, learn that it will help with a different disease/ailment, send it to the FDA, and raise it from its cheap generic cost to 10/20/30/100 times that amount.

My one doc was talking about this one day. Was talking about a drug that was very cheap and used for something simple. A drug company found it helped with diabetes, changed the formula a bit, and raised the price a shitload.

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I don't wear boots, for you shit-kicking wimps who think Boots Make The Man.

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GFY and bitch slap yer Palin doll.:lol

the drug companies jack up the prices like crazy as their 7-year patents get closer to expiring. gotta rob people as much as possible before the cheaper generics are available.

Pregnancy drug's price boost halved

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/loc...ed-1319126.php

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Here's how corporate media assists coporpate predatory greed.

The headline should be:

Anti-premature birth Drug price dropped from 150x previous price to still-extortionate 70x.

A classically simple tactic. Make your initial offer twice what you really want, then halve it and congratulate yourself for being so humane and customer-oriented, while still walking away with $Bs of money for nothing.

I would also think that the company jacks the price up to protect itself for the future lawsuits that will surely happen when you are dealing with an issue like this. The drug is supposed to help with premature births, but all you need are some cases where babies are born prematurely with health issues.

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Pregnancy drug's price boost halved

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/loc...ed-1319126.php

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Here's how corporate media assists coporpate predatory greed.

The headline should be:

Anti-premature birth Drug price dropped from 150x previous price to still-extortionate 70x.

A classically simple tactic. Make your initial offer twice what you really want, then halve it and congratulate yourself for being so humane and customer-oriented, while still walking away with $Bs of money for nothing.

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I would also think that the company jacks the price up to protect itself for the future lawsuits that will surely happen when you are dealing with an issue like this. The drug is supposed to help with premature births, but all you need are some cases where babies are born prematurely with health issues.

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Bullshit. Even with all the $Bs in fines the BigPharma "settles" for killing and maiming 100s of 1000s of people, their annual profit, avg 17%? exceeds nearly all other sectors in the Fortune 500.

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Pregnancy drug's price boost halved

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/loc...ed-1319126.php

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Here's how corporate media assists coporpate predatory greed.

The headline should be:

Anti-premature birth Drug price dropped from 150x previous price to still-extortionate 70x.

A classically simple tactic. Make your initial offer twice what you really want, then halve it and congratulate yourself for being so humane and customer-oriented, while still walking away with $Bs of money for nothing.

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Boutons is on to something......