Re: Obama's plan to cut imported oil by one-third: Drill, baby, drill?
ah, that's much better
08-24-2012
mavs>spurs
Re: Obama's plan to cut imported oil by one-third: Drill, baby, drill?
While Obama is shutting down "dirty" coal plants, china India etc are all busily getting their energy by all means so not only are we operating at a disadvantage but we aren't saving the earth either. It makes no sense to create all these regulations that ONLY hurt US plants and businesses.
08-24-2012
mavs>spurs
Re: Obama's plan to cut imported oil by one-third: Drill, baby, drill?
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Originally Posted by Winehole23
ah, that's much better
You already knew damn well though. You can't follow politics and not know about this stuff. You were just being an intellectually dishonest dickhead.
08-24-2012
boutons_deux
Re: Obama's plan to cut imported oil by one-third: Drill, baby, drill?
coal is getting replaced by NG, wonderfully, because coal is a huge source of nasty particulate and chemical pollution, NG being only slightly less terrible
08-24-2012
Winehole23
Re: Obama's plan to cut imported oil by one-third: Drill, baby, drill?
check your powers of reading:
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The Obama administration was under court order to issue a new rule, after a court threw out an attempt by the Bush administration to exempt power plants from controls for toxic air pollution.
maybe activist judges are to blame here
08-24-2012
mavs>spurs
Re: Obama's plan to cut imported oil by one-third: Drill, baby, drill?
If it only produces slightly less pollution then you already know that the NG plants will face regulation too. And guess who gets to foot that bill, and still get to breathe smog blown in from India to boot?
08-24-2012
Winehole23
Re: Obama's plan to cut imported oil by one-third: Drill, baby, drill?
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Originally Posted by mavs>spurs
You already knew damn well though. You can't follow politics and not know about this stuff. You were just being an intellectually dishonest dickhead.
what's intellectually dishonest about asking people to back up their own claims? I'm not an energy wonk; I was unaware of the plant closings.
08-24-2012
johnsmith
Re: Obama's plan to cut imported oil by one-third: Drill, baby, drill?
Wasn't it just a year or so ago that when asked about soaring oil prices Obama said something along the lines of "get used to it", or "drive a smaller car"?
Weird that he's all about it right now.........in August..........of an election year.
08-24-2012
mavs>spurs
Re: Obama's plan to cut imported oil by one-third: Drill, baby, drill?
How the hell do you vote for Obama and not know that he CAMPAIGNED on this shit 4 years ago? It was his personal agenda to get rid of coal.
that's an exaggeration. campaign rhetoric does not tend to eradicate the coal industry.
(btw, I voted for Ron Paul in 2008. there's no way I would ever vote for Obama this year, or then)
08-24-2012
mavs>spurs
Re: Obama's plan to cut imported oil by one-third: Drill, baby, drill?
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Originally Posted by johnsmith
Wasn't it just a year or so ago that when asked about soaring oil prices Obama said something along the lines of "get used to it", or "drive a smaller car"?
Weird that he's all about it right now.........in August..........of an election year.
Yep..Obama is a hypocrite and a liar but for some reason some people still drink the kool aid..
It makes no sense to impose environmental regulations that ONLY cripple US companies. We all share the air on earth, meaning pollution from India and china blow right in. All this does is shut down the US from within by putting us at a major disadvantage.
08-24-2012
Winehole23
Re: Obama's plan to cut imported oil by one-third: Drill, baby, drill?
me distrusting you has nothing to do with Obama. it has more to do with you, frankly.
08-24-2012
Winehole23
Re: Obama's plan to cut imported oil by one-third: Drill, baby, drill?
you thought google would save your ass. instead, you just dug yourself deeper.
08-24-2012
mavs>spurs
Re: Obama's plan to cut imported oil by one-third: Drill, baby, drill?
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Originally Posted by Winehole23
that's an exaggeration. campaign rhetoric does not tend to eradicate the coal industry.
(btw, I voted for Ron Paul in 2008. there's no way I would ever vote for Obama this year, or then)
You come off as such a hardcore liberal that it's hard for me to believe that but if that means 1 less vote for Obama I'll take it.
This issue is just one of many reasons why the man doesn't know how to run anything except his gums while pandering for votes.
08-24-2012
mavs>spurs
Re: Obama's plan to cut imported oil by one-third: Drill, baby, drill?
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Originally Posted by Winehole23
you thought google would save your ass. instead, you just dug yourself deeper.
What the hell are you talking about dude? My claims have been backed up thoroughly.
Check this out
08-24-2012
Winehole23
Re: Obama's plan to cut imported oil by one-third: Drill, baby, drill?
you're a buffoon if you think that proves anything like what you claimed upstream. a soundbite hasn't closed a single plant.
08-24-2012
Winehole23
Re: Obama's plan to cut imported oil by one-third: Drill, baby, drill?
whatever happened to cap and trade, btw? isn't that what Obama was talking about in the clip?
08-24-2012
coyotes_geek
Re: Obama's plan to cut imported oil by one-third: Drill, baby, drill?
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Originally Posted by Winehole23
whatever happened to cap and trade, btw? isn't that what Obama was talking about in the clip?
Dead. Greenie dems are the only ones who want it. Big labor dems don't.
08-24-2012
Winehole23
Re: Obama's plan to cut imported oil by one-third: Drill, baby, drill?
some posters still reference it as if it were a going concern.
