Wisconsin union threaten businesses

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/118910229.html

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Members of Wisconsin State Employees Union, AFSCME Council 24, have begun circulating letters to businesses in southeast Wisconsin, asking them to support workers’ rights by putting up a sign in their windows.

If businesses fail to comply, the letter says, “Failure to do so will leave us no choice but (to) do a public boycott of your business. And sorry, neutral means 'no' to those who work for the largest employer in the area and are union members."

Jim Parrett, a field representative of Council 24 for Southeast Wisconsin, confirmed the contents of the letter, which carries his signature. But he added that the union was also circulating letters to businesses thanking them for supporting workers’ rights.

Parrett said that since the letters were sent out, he has received threatening phone calls as well as calls from people supporting the state workers.

"I've gotten a lot of threatening phone calls," Parrett said.

Parrett said he believed the letter campaign was going on in other parts of the state. His region includes Racine and Kenosha counties, as well as parts of Waukesha and Walworth counties.

“It’s going on in other parts of the state,” he said Wednesday.

Parrett referred questions to Marty Beil, the head of the Wisconsin State Employees Union. Beil was not immediately available for comment.

In the letter from Parrett to some businesses, he says that, “It is unfortunate that you have chosen ‘not’ to support public workers rights in Wisconsin. In recent past weeks you have been offered a sign by a public employee who works in one of the state facilities in the Union Grove area. These signs simply said, ‘This Business Supports Workers Rights,’ a simple, subtle and we feel non-controversial statement gives the facts at this time.”

Parrett said a number of WSEU locals in his region represent more than 1,300 union workers who have a combined yearly income of more than $56 million.

“The recent actions taken on the governor’s budget repair bill have taken more from workers than dollars. It took away our right to bargain things such as: sick leave and how it is used, vacation and how it is used, overtime and how it is ‘fairly’ distributed. Our grievance procedure has been virtually destroyed. These are things that make life working in a 24/7 facility tolerable,” Parrett wrote in the letter.

Parrett adds in the letter: "State employees fully expect to take some lumps financially in these tough economic times, we have offered and we will. But don't take away rights to what has kept workplace peace for half a century and has worked well."

Terri Gray, executive director of the Union Grove Chamber of Commerce, said she had received many calls from member businesses about the union-led effort. She said most of the calls came from businessmen and women who preferred to remain neutral in the dispute between Gov. Scott Walker and organized labor.

"They don't want to pick a side," she said. "I told them, 'I believe you can choose to not choose.'"

Gray said the campaign appeared to have started a day or two ago. She said she didn't know whether the sign campaign was having an impact.

Asked Wednesday about the boycott effort, the Rev. Jesse Jackson said "that any nonviolent tactic used to get attention to the steamroller tactics it seems to me are reasonable. I encourage people to remain nonviolent and disciplined in their protests."

Asked if he supported boycott efforts in Wisconsin, Jackson did not directly endorse them.

He said: The best way to resolve conflict is when everybody is at the table and they can negotiate through some rational institutional process."

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"rational institutional process"

.... but Repugs are not rational, they're psychotic sociopaths.

I thought you conservatives liked boycotts... will of the people and stuff..


darrins state your stance, are you for or against boycotting businesses?

Boycotting a business for not picking sides?
Seems a bit out there to me.

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Originally Posted by teyshablue

boycotting a business for not picking sides?
Seems a bit out there to me.

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+1

Want to boycott a business for producing shitty goods? Get after it.
Want to boycott a business for taking an active stance on something you personally disagree with? Get after it.
Want to boycott a business because they wish to remain neutral? Nu-uh.

Not acquiescing to the request of the union does not equal putting up a sign that says "Unions Suck".

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Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro

I thought you conservatives liked boycotts... will of the people and stuff..

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We do?

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Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro

darrins state your stance, are you for or against boycotting businesses?

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Against.

[email protected] collective bargaining. I see more polls supporting Walker and the gang coming out very soon.

This is a poorly conceived tactic.

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Originally Posted by DarrinS

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/118910229.html

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So the title of the thread should have been "unions threaten businesses with boycott".

It's a free market, they get to choose who to do business with, just like anybody else.

Are you against the free market? Should the government tell these people where to shop?

Jesus, is there any kind of lie or distortion you won't stoop to?

The unions have the public on their side according to polls. They should be taking the high road. Extortion for the purposes of getting a few glorified bumper stickers in some windows isn't going to help their cause. It's legal but it's fucking stupid.

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Originally Posted by jack sommerset

[email protected] collective bargaining. I see more polls supporting Walker and the gang coming out very soon.

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you were for polls before you were against them... now you like polls jackie..tomorrow you won't... saturday you will...

"I see more polls supporting Walker"

Link? of course not.

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Originally Posted by boutons_deux

"I see more polls supporting Walker"

Link? of course not.

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Couldn't be worse than the polls you post.:lol

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Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro

you were for polls before you were against them... now you like polls jackie..tomorrow you won't... saturday you will...

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WTF are you talking about, faggot? Nevermind, you're a idiot, you will just spew more nonsense, talk about barry and "jack"off all over yourself.

"If a businesses fail to comply, the letter says, “Failure to do so will leave us no choice but (to) do a public boycott of your business. And sorry, neutral means 'no' to those who work for the largest employer in the area and are union members."

Do you support this?

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Originally Posted by boutons_deux

"I see more polls supporting Walker"

Link? of course not.

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TONS of them!!!!

Google? Of course not.

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Originally Posted by jack sommerset

WTF are you talking about, faggot? Nevermind, you're a idiot, you will just spew more nonsense, talk about barry and "jack"off all over yourself.

"If a businesses fail to comply, the letter says, “Failure to do so will leave us no choice but (to) do a public boycott of your business. And sorry, neutral means 'no' to those who work for the largest employer in the area and are union members."

Do you support this?

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maybe I needed to be more clear with the simpleton... you use polls against Obama when you find one you like... then you ignore polls that support him... get it dumbass? either you support polls or you don't? which one is it dummy?

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Originally Posted by jack sommerset

TONS of them!!!!

Google? Of course not.

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in other words you were called on it..and you failed to back it up...

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Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro

maybe I needed to be more clear with the simpleton... you use polls against Obama when you find one you like... then you ignore polls that support him... get it dumbass? either you support polls or you don't? which one is it dummy?

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Are you kidding me? What poll are you spewing about. You never posted a poll. Show me all the polls you are talking about and posted in here Mr Hypocrite, saying this entire bill is shit and the people don't support it? Until then google like I did and:

"If a businesses fail to comply, the letter says, “Failure to do so will leave us no choice but (to) do a public boycott of your business. And sorry, neutral means 'no' to those who work for the largest employer in the area and are union members."

Do you support this?

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Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro

in other words you were called on it..and you failed to back it up...

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http://hotair.com/archives/2011/02/2...h-unions-dems/

Rasmussen poll shows Walker winning standoff with unions, Dems

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 48% of Likely U.S. Voters agree more with the Republican governor in his dispute with union workers. Thirty-eight percent (38%) agree more with the unionized public employees, while 14% are undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.) …

In other words you are a lazy piece of shit.....TONS more

I'm sure this tactic will win over the hearts and minds of the PRIVATE sector companies and their employees -- you know, the people that pay the salaries, benefits, and pensions of these union dildos.

What about polls in Wisconsin?

I wonder where they got the idea?

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/0...sin-businesses

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Originally Posted by jack sommerset

TONS of them!!!!

Google? Of course not.

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Originally Posted by jack sommerset

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/02/2...h-unions-dems/

Rasmussen poll shows Walker winning standoff with unions, Dems

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 48% of Likely U.S. Voters agree more with the Republican governor in his dispute with union workers. Thirty-eight percent (38%) agree more with the unionized public employees, while 14% are undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.) …

In other words you are a lazy piece of shit.....TONS more

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Poll: Americans favor union bargaining rights
By Dennis Cauchon, USA TODAYUpdated 2/23/2011 2:00:45 PM |
2218 | 54ShareMADISON, Wis. — Americans strongly oppose laws taking away the collective bargaining power of public employee unions, according to a new USA TODAY/Gallup Poll. The poll found 61% would oppose a law in their state similar to such a proposal in Wisconsin, compared with 33% who would favor such a law.

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still waiting on the 'tons'...

the will of the people..

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Survey of polls show public siding with Wisconsin protesters
February 22nd, 2011 6:03 pm ET .

The polling community is finally starting to catch up with what has become the biggest story in politics over the last week. Tens of thousands of protesters have come out in Madison, Wisconsin to express opposition to Governor Walker's anti-union bill. Gov. Walker has claimed the bill is necessary to balance the budget, and refused to take out the provisions which strip the public employees' unions of their collective bargaining rights. Many believed the public would side with Walker, since the favorability ratings of unions has gone down over the last three decades. However, a sampling of the major polls shows that most are actually siding with the protesters in Wisconsin.

The best poll on the issue may come from USA Today/Gallup. That poll, with a sampling of over 1,000 Americans, found that 61% of people oppose a law in their state similar to the one Walker is proposing in Wisconsin. Just 33% were in favor of a similar law. Another poll commissioned by the AFL/CIO, but conducted by an independent firm, found that 62% of Wisconsin voters view the public employees favorably, compared to just 11% who have an unfavorable view. In comparison, just 39% of Wisconsin voters now have a favorable view of Walker, compared to 49% who have an unfavorable view. Finally, the poll found 52% of Wisconsin voters oppose Governor Walker's plan while 42% favor it...

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you are one dishonest piece of shit jackie.. I'd save a piece of crap before I ever pulled your dumbass out of a burning building...

As you both know, poll "results" on both sides can be easily manipulated based on how the questions are phrased.

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Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy

As you both know, poll "results" on both sides can be easily manipulated based on how the questions are phrased.

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I don't think jackie understands that..besides he said there were on tons of polls... of course he won't provide more than one but he tells me I'm lazy..

I would suggest reading this...

This is straight out of the Jackson playbook...

http://www.amazon.com/Shakedown-Expo.../dp/0895261650

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Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro

I don't think jackie understands that..besides he said there were on tons of polls... of course he won't provide more than one but he tells me I'm lazy..

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I understand you are fucking stupid. I understand I googled something you could have easily done yourself and posted the very first one I saw. I understand you can do this but won't because you are fucking stupid. So I do this for you and what do I get, post more jackie. Go fuck yourself loser.

You tell us genius, why on earth do you think people, the majority of people don't support Walker and this bill? Come on you lazy fuck, tell us why. Is it because Maddows told you they don't support it. Is it because Barry said so. Tell us why you think most people don't support this bill? And why you are at it......I will ask you yet again:

"If a businesses fail to comply, the letter says, “Failure to do so will leave us no choice but (to) do a public boycott of your business. And sorry, neutral means 'no' to those who work for the largest employer in the area and are union members."

Do you support this?

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Originally Posted by jack sommerset

"If a businesses fail to comply, the letter says, “Failure to do so will leave us no choice but (to) do a public boycott of your business. And sorry, neutral means 'no' to those who work for the largest employer in the area and are union members."

Do you support this?

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You dont? Why not?

Theyre a private organization who is publicly employed. The choices they make about who and what to boycott is there decision.

Now, with that said, and just as Spurm mentioned earlier, this is an incredibly dumb tactic.

But whats wrong with letting someone gather enough rope to hang themselves?

The rub?

Ain't no way to boycott the "company" public union members work for, or the members themselves. Unless someone like Walker does what he did, they are untouchable.

No way to do a tit for tat.

They have too much power; as FDR et. al. warned they would.

Private sector (taxpaying sector) wages have been flat for how long?

Public unions getting 3% + regardless.

Here in Pa, STARTING salaries for elementary school teachers are $57,000 - with a great benefit and retirement package to boot (and the new CBA gives them 3% raises guaranteed each year for the next 4). The state spends as much on RETIRED public teachers as it does on higher education in total. Average salary for teachers in the district at the end of the CBA? $90,000!!!! For nine-months work. Two teachers now a $180,000 household, with summers/x-mas/spring break off? Damn.

The public may be in support of them (kind of) now, but that will end, as their over-reaching demagoguery continues and amplifies. As facts such as I just posted get out there an become public knowledge? When the cop makes 1/3rd what his kids kindergarten teacher makes? Shits gonna hit the fan.

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Originally Posted by DarkReign

You dont? Why not?

Theyre a private organization who is publicly employed. The choices they make about who and what to boycott is there decision.

Now, with that said, and just as Spurm mentioned earlier, this is an incredibly dumb tactic.

But whats wrong with letting someone gather enough rope to hang themselves?

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No I don't. It's blackmail. These supporters, like george and many others on this site will ignore this story and continue to support them no matter what.

The teachers of Wisconsin are paid well and have great benifits because of the tax payers, the same tax payers they want to blackmail. The leaders of this union are extremly irresponsible and should have some of their collective bargaining strip from them. Taking thier cry wolf fight to the street, blackmailing businesses to agree with them is yet another example why this bill was passed.

EDIT. George, If a building was burning and I was in it along with some shit, you would pick up the shit instead of me and run out the building? LOL