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Yes.
No question about it.
Only if you take your parenting responsibilities seriously. Lots of us grandparent-types end up virtually raising our grandchildren because our children find them inconvenient to their career advancement.
Children are seen as something the next generation want to have...not something they want to engage.
I don't mean to imply that all are like that...but I see it.
One of my children takes his parenting totally seriously. One other takes it seriously but not enjoyably. Another, I swear, just wanted to see what they would look like. Those are the ones living with me now.
I've got 4 grandkids living with me right now.:depressedQuote:
Originally Posted by EVAY
Damn, now I feel like I have it lucky because I only have 2 of them. Inescapable conclusion, though, huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by TeyshaBlue
So it seems. It looks like we'll probably be granted permanent custody of 2 of them. The other 2 I think will be okay once the Mother reestablishes her finances. *Knocks on wood*Quote:
Originally Posted by EVAY
What gets me is how casually these girls get knocked up/have babies. My daughter has had several single friends get knocked up by guys they had no intention of settling down with and they were just so damn happy to be pregnant...I guess it's an attention/being loved/needed thing...they post every frigging hunger craving, "14 week belly picture" etc. on facebook...very creepy...
Well, we are clearly in a differing generational value set. I remember laughing my head off about 20 years ago when a niece of mine got pregnant out of wedlock and actually sent gleeful birth announcements to people like my mother, who was apoplectic upon receipt of same.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
Sounds like my niece was ahead of her time. LOL.
Obviously they saw their friends buy slushies with lone star cards and.....Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
Well, you know the rest.
As for the OP, is the sky blue?
Well, I'm too lazy to look this up right away but I'm pretty sure my generation's birthrate is down so I would agree that we have a different set of values but its not necessarily the one you're painting.Quote:
Originally Posted by EVAY
Which do you think I am painting?Quote:
Originally Posted by MannyIsGod
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Children are seen as something the next generation want to have...not something they want to engage.
I'd argue that more than ever, children are something we DO NOT want to have.
The gene pool sincerely appreciates your abstinence, Manny...:p:Quote:
Originally Posted by MannyIsGod
It certainly does for women
From 4 years ago:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18742634...iness-careers/
and this year:
http://realbusiness.co.uk/kate_pritc...damage_careers
Throw in the -25% compensation for women vs men in the same job.
See Wal-mart gender discrimination suit, where I expect the SCOTUS men to vote for Wal-mart, and the SCOTUS women to vote for women, proving yet again that justice ISN'T blind.
Oh, okay. I understand. I thought you were referring to whether or not they had children out of wedlock. That is much less important these days (wedlock) than it used to be. I thought that is what you meant.Quote:
Originally Posted by MannyIsGod
I think you are right about children in general. Almost all of the industrialized, developed nations have declining birth rates, which I assume has to do with the perceived cost of having children, more than anything else.
no necesarily.
If you have kids to support, you actually worry more about work and your performance increases. So thus, you get more opportunities.
In a word........yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant
Anyone with children/ grandchildren would agree.
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Originally Posted by LnGrrrR
It's not that we don't love em. It's just reality.Quote:
Originally Posted by TeyshaBlue
More than ever kids are born out of wedlock and to single mothers today. I don't argue that one bit. Its not a good situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by EVAY
It doesn't help that the Safety Net has become a Hammock.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
How many of her friend have babies three years apart?
Ouch. I've got twin girls age 3. I've already got my shotgun loaded. One of the things I harp on my wife about is that the environment in which they are brought up matters......a lot. She's not as preoccupied as I am with instilling a strong work ethic and driving them to secure a decent financial future before deciding on children. That means having the freedom of career advancement.Quote:
Originally Posted by TeyshaBlue
Thankfully I was able to finish out grad school before any of those considerations limited my ability to advance my career. I would have been stuck in a career that I really didn't enjoy at all.
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Originally Posted by Agloco
If you're not financially independent you may want to have your kids consult a financially independent consultant pertaining to money matters. You may have their best interests at heart but do you really know about managing money to the point money is working for you - Probably not...
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Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant
Q. - Does Having Kids Dull Career Opportunities
A. - Not if you're white
The age demographics of this country would disagree with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by MannyIsGod
It absolutely dulls career opportunities because you can't take risks that you could otherwise take. You may be able negotiate better compensation on the jobs that you do get because there is less pressure to get a job.
I personally can survive on 10 bucks a week for food. My family cannot.
Also, the average person won't go to school while working full time and having a family. So that in and of itself can retard the career growth of a person.
Yes, kids dull your career opportunities. For starters, kids give you something more important in life to worry about than work. More directly related to your job however, kids also reduce your capacity to do things like work overtime, travel, relocate, etc.
Yeah, I meant to respond with these too...Quote:
Originally Posted by coyotes_geek
How so? Care to provide data?Quote:
Originally Posted by SnakeBoy
You are what is important. Not your kids, not your parents. You.
You warehouse your parents in nursing homes and the kids you don't manage to avoid end up just like you.
Well we actually needed a baby boom 15-20 years ago to pay for the boomers but it would be better late than never. Our ponzi scheme entitlements need a better pyramid than what we are facing in order to work.Quote:
Originally Posted by MannyIsGod
http://www.edstephan.org/Animation/pyramid.gif
No idea what your point is but birthrates have been declining for quite some time. There is extremely solid evidence to show that my generation is having fewer kids.Quote:
Originally Posted by SnakeBoy
My point was simply that we are screwing ourselves by not wanting to have children.
Oh, I see. Maybe in the short run with entitlements but the long term reality is that the Earth's resources are already being taxed. I think i declining population is actually a good thing. There are only so many jobs, only so much food, only so much energy and in the end we'll be better off if we're fewer.
I don't disagree that a smaller global population would be a good thing but a declining birthrate is the worst way to get there. Mankind might eventually be better off but "we" won't. If you look at the gif you can see "we" are pretty much screwed well past 2050 without something changing. A global pandemic would be the best way to get there since it would likely take the largest toll on elderly people. As long as it happens before I become one the elderly.