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Sorry Nbadan and other Obama supporters but I gave this dude a chance to "change" shit and I personally don't see it.
I was with you guys bashing Bush 24/7 but now I am beginning to wonder if we are better off with Bush back in office.
So I am going to be first to sign the
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I didn't vote for Obama, so it's more accurate to say he didn't live up to his own promise(s) than that he let me down specifically. Obama ran as a change candidate. Once elected, he wasted no time morphing into an establishmentarian par excellence.
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So your not going to sign in?
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No. I was skeptical before he was elected. The disappointing part is that he fulfilled my expectations, not that he fell short.
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So then in reality your just like him, your undecided and can't man up and put your name for something you support or feel strongly about?
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I'm not undecided at all. I think Obama sucks. Will that do?
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If Obama invades and occupies Libya then he can get that final step in towards being a Bush clone.
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I never expected for him to be good. I knew he was fake and overhyped and voted in by the media and the sheep who followed. I expected what we are getting from him. I didn't vote for him either. And I'm far from Republican. I'd like to sign in, but I already knew he'd fail miserably. I'll sign in, but again, I already knew this is what we'd get. Wasn't one of the things brought up in debate was about him just voting "present" like 200 times or so? :lol
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Maybe expectations were a little unrealistic by some hard-core supporters.....Obama still has to play by the Washington establishment rules....as far as saving Wall Street, it was a necessary evil....they would have taken the whole country down with them and the expense to revive the whole system would have been multiplied by 3, or 10.....he's bringing combat troops home from Bush's misadventure in Iraq and stabilizing Afghanistan...along with destroying terrorists in Pakistan, Sudan, and other middle east hell holes....much of the health-care disappointment comes from his own party who wish he had gone further with a single-payer system.....still, some reform is better than none and 40 million people have insurance now...
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I don't think fighting for a public option and not having a financial team that stretched from Goldman to Sachs were unrealistic expectations.
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....everything that needs to be done by the government to get the economy growing again is in full gear, but Obama cannot make private business hire American workers...despite what pro-globalist wing-nuts think....he's released almost all the innocent prisoners in GITMO and the rest will see their day in court, or face a military tribunal...
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I don't think fighting for a public option and not having a financial team that stretched from Goldman to Sachs were unrealistic expectations.
I'm with you, the system has to be reformed, but is the middle of the worst financial catastrophe the US has seen since the civil war thanks to Bush and the do nothing GOP Congress is hardly the time to get into a sword fight...
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I'm not happy with every decision he's made in office, and am in fact quite unhappy with a few of them, but I never expected and/or demanded perfection. Our involvement in Lybia is particularly problematic to me, and a lot of how I judge his first term is going to be dependent upon what happens there. All of the other concessions he's made, however, and his failure to follow through on a number of his campaign promises, were inevitable -- the political landscape has become so divisive in recent years, and the democratic party has turned into such passive pussies, that anyone who expected Obama to run in and change shit on his own was hopelessly optimistic.
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All of the other concessions he's made, however, and his failure to follow through on a number of his campaign promises, were inevitable --
That's the power of the wing-nut echo chamber....Obama has kept a high percentage of his campaign promises
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...ameter/browse/
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I expected Obama to suck. I did not expect him to be W, the sequel.
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he's not.....McCain would have been though....
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he's not.....
:lol
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What country has he invaded with ground troops again?
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Obama has been weak on many progressive causes...including reforming Wall Street and health-care but comparing him to the disaster that was Bush, and the do-nothing Congress is disingenuous...
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As I've posted before, had Bush just enforced the no-fly zone in Iraq, like Obama did in Lybia, there was no opposition...wing-nuts just like to make much ado about nothing...
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What country has he invaded with ground troops again?
..........because obviously whether or not Obama commits ground troops to a country we're not already in is the ONLY basis on which an Obama/Bush comparison can be made. Nevermind continuing the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, continuing the Bush tax cuts, continuing massive defecit spending, continuing the patriot act, continuing corporate welfare giveaways, etc, etc, etc......................
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..........because obviously whether or not Obama commits ground troops to a country we're not already in is the ONLY basis on which an Obama/Bush comparison can be made. Nevermind continuing the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, continuing the Bush tax cuts, continuing massive defecit spending, continuing the patriot act, continuing corporate welfare giveaways, etc, etc, etc......................
I've already addressed Lybia....most combat troops are being pulled from Iraq, with only a token force to stay and basically protect the flow of oil....keeping the U.S. economy stable....we are taking the war to the terrorist in Afghanistan, but I think we will see combat troops pulled from there when the Afghanistan govt is stabilized...or compromise is made with the Taliban...
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continuing the Bush tax cuts,
He cannot simple repeal the Bush tax cuts, that's a failure of Congress, namely Harry Reid to rally blue-dog democrats, however, at least the dems don;t walk lockstep with their party ideology....basically, democracy works....