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If Texas and Arizona Secede They'll Become Like Many African Countries
Poor and desolate...no government help for Hurricanes... and you know how you rely of the gubberment for help when natural disaster strikes...business would likely move out of your "Country" since they'd more than likely be limited in their business dealings...and finally the Mexicans would reclaim Texas as their own...and in force...you wouldn't be able to withstand on your own the onslaught..the Mexican drugs gang would run you into the ground...and when that happens you'll solely rely on the Texas Guard as a means of protection...No more help from the Feds that you so despise....Al-Queda would then be free to run wild in your cowboy country...no more looking to the Pentagon for assistance...Fund and build your own fucking border wall...
Man I would love to see Texas secede so these stupid fucking Tea Partiers and their supporters can finally see what shitty ideas float in the heads on a second by second basis...:lol
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Texas would be almost instantly and completely over run and co-opted by the drug cartels. The only thing that's stopping them now is TX being part of the USA, and backed by our military.
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TX would probably take a huge hit, at least the bottom 90%, if the US moved all of its military, defense contracting, Houston Space Center out, and stopped agricultural subsidies, Medicare/Medicaid funding, and all the inflow from blue-states to TX.
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Hopefully Arizona would wait till I'm done with school.
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az can take care of itself
we would fix the border problem by having landmines and shooting illegals crossing
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Drug Cartels? You think that scares Texas? You do realize Chuck Norris would be The President of the Republic of Texas do you not??? (srs)
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The Texas Economy is roughly equivalent to the size of Canada. Yeah, we would take a hit from US military bases leaving, but we would make up for it...If the US decided to play economic games we control the natural gas that feeds the northeast for heat in the winter and most of the refined gasoline/diesel for the central and east coast. They will REALLY push for renewable energy when we shove $10 gas up their ass.
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CosmicCowboy
The Texas Economy is roughly equivalent to the size of Canada. Yeah, we would take a hit from US military bases leaving, but we would make up for it...If the US decided to play economic games we control the natural gas that feeds the northeast for heat in the winter and most of the refined gasoline/diesel for the central and east coast. They will REALLY push for renewable energy when we shove $10 gas up their ass.
then it would cost tx a boat load of money to cross borders......not to mention the tariffs for gulf commerce.
tx would be punished for going alone.
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clambake
then it would cost tx a boat load of money to cross borders......not to mention the tariffs for gulf commerce.
tx would be punished for going alone.
I agree. But the hurt would go both ways. In that hypothetical scenario it would be in the US and Texas best interest not to start a trade war and just be another member of NAFTA. I personally think that hypothetically Texas could co-exist with the US in a friendly relationship and do quite well financially.
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from this:
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CosmicCowboy
They will REALLY push for renewable energy when we shove $10 gas up their ass.
to this:
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Originally Posted by
CosmicCowboy
I agree. But the hurt would go both ways. In that hypothetical scenario it would be in the US and Texas best interest not to start a trade war and just be another member of NAFTA. I personally think that hypothetically Texas could co-exist with the US in a friendly relationship and do quite well financially.
caved in pretty quick, cowboy.
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Trading within NAFTA and the global oil markets are two completely different things.
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clambake
from this:
to this:
caved in pretty quick, cowboy.
No cave in. Two different scenarios based on US attitude. Obviously Texas would want free trade, but could have a carrot/stick approach to negotiating it.
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ChuckD
Texas would be almost instantly and completely over run and co-opted by the drug cartels. The only thing that's stopping them now is TX being part of the USA, and backed by our military.
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boutons_deux
TX would probably take a huge hit, at least the bottom 90%, if the US moved all of its military, defense contracting, Houston Space Center out, and stopped agricultural subsidies, Medicare/Medicaid funding, and all the inflow from blue-states to TX.
Pretty much this. Plus, how many people would leave out of fear of the uncertainty of living in a new independent city-state?
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Wild Cobra
Trading within NAFTA and the global oil markets are two completely different things.
Really? We didn't know that. :rolleyes
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CosmicCowboy
Really? We didn't know that. :rolleyes
Clambake obviously doesn't know the difference.
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Wild Cobra
Clambake obviously doesn't know the difference.
clammy knows that tx could choose between playing the global market, or not.
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the Dallas Cowboys would finally be their nation's best football team
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CosmicCowboy
The Texas Economy is roughly equivalent to the size of Canada. Yeah, we would take a hit from US military bases leaving, but we would make up for it...If the US decided to play economic games we control the natural gas that feeds the northeast for heat in the winter and most of the refined gasoline/diesel for the central and east coast. They will REALLY push for renewable energy when we shove $10 gas up their ass.
Would gas not be available from any other source?
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ChumpDumper
Would gas not be available from any other source?
No Chump. Texas is the only possible place in the world they can get natural gas and gasoline from.
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boutons_deux
TX would probably take a huge hit, at least the bottom 90%, if the US moved all of its military, defense contracting, Houston Space Center out, and stopped agricultural subsidies, Medicare/Medicaid funding, and all the inflow from blue-states to TX.
That's fucking hilarious.:lmao
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Put some numbers behind these bullet points of yours. How much money are you talking about here? I doubt you'll bother...you usually don't if you cant find it on truthout.borg.:rolleyes
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http://www.taxfoundation.org/files/sr139.pdf
Remove ALL the military bases, NASA, all the civil service supporting them, ALL the federal govt offices + civil service, ALL the military/federal contractors from TX, remove all the drug/border/federal staff, all the Federal support for Medicare/Medicaid inflows, etc, etc, and tell me if you think TX won't bat an eye becoming an independent nation.
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boutons_deux
It's fucking true, bitch
Very little of what you say is "truth" in the pure sense.
you're a conspiracy theory nut spammer, tbh.
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