A California Republican party official who sent out an e-mail of President Obama's face super-imposed onto a chimp says she's sorry, but insists she wasn't trying to be racist.
Marilyn Davenport, an elected member of the Orange County Republican central committee, sent the e-mail on Friday. The "family photo" features the commander-in-chief as a baby chimpanzee with two chimp parents.
Along with the offensive image was the tagline "Now you know why -- No birth certificate."
The supposed gag refers to the belief by so-called "birthers," who insist - even after the White House released a digitally scanned image of his Hawaii birth certificate in 2008 - that Obama wasn't born in the U.S. and is ineligible to be president.
The Tea Party activist then offered up a half-hearted apology.
"I'm sorry if my email offended anyone," she wrote, according to the OC Weekly. "I simply found it amusing regarding the character of Obama and all the questions surrounding his origin of birth."
Davenport wrote she hadn't considered that Obama is "half black."
"In fact, the thought never entered my mind until one or two other people tried to make this about race," she wrote.
The GOP committeewoman then blamed the "media" for trying to make a big deal out of the racist e-mail, insisting that the "average person knows and agrees is much ado about nothing."
Davenport has since sought to hunt down the "cowardly" person who leaked the e-mail, said Republican Party of Orange County chairman Scott Baugh, who was one of the original people who received the "highly inappropriate" Obama e-mail.
"It's a despicable message, it drips with racism and I think she should step down from the committee," he said.
Davenport, however, has already refused to quit.
"I will NOT resign my central committee position over this matter," she wrote to the OC Weekly.
He noted that in 2009 the former Republican mayor of Los Alamitos, Dean Grose, e-mailed a photo showing a watermelon patch in front of the White House last year, Davenport defended him. She also backed former Newport Beach City Councilman Dick Nichols for making an offensive remark about Mexicans.
"She has managed to top both of those incidents by comparing African Americans to monkeys," Schroeder told the OC Weekly on Saturday. "She has disgraced herself and needs to resign."
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Originally Posted by Davenport's Defense of Her E-Mail
"Oh, come on! Everybody who knows me knows that I am not a racist. It was a joke. I have friends who are black. Besides, I only sent it to a few people--mostly people I didn't think would be upset by it."
Re: Republican didn't think Obama as chimp e-mail was racist
congrats on buying in/spouting off about bullshit soap-opera style drama surrounding a false left-right paradigm while our country gets led into the noose. While you sheep follow these force-fed meaningless/mindless stories meant to distract and keep your eyes off the thieves stealing from you and yours, the futures of future generations are going up in flames.
again. congrats :depressed
04-18-2011
Bartleby
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Originally Posted by Parker2112
congrats on buying in/spouting off about bullshit soap-opera style drama surrounding a false left-right paradigm while our country gets led into the noose. While you sheep follow these force-fed meaningless/mindless stories meant to distract and keep your eyes off the thieves stealing from you and yours, the futures of future generations are going up in flames.
again. congrats :depressed
Way to and steer clear of all the bullshit soap-opera style drama.
:toast
04-19-2011
ploto
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"I'm sorry if my email offended anyone,"
This is not an apology.
04-19-2011
The Reckoning
Re: Republican didn't think Obama as chimp e-mail was racist
wow bunch of fucking hypocrites. i guess i could be described as "independent" which allows me to point out the blatant hypocrasy of everyone comparing bush to chimps. is that racist too? gtfo everyone.
04-19-2011
ChumpDumper
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Originally Posted by NY Daily News
A California Republican party official who sent out an e-mail of President Obama's face super-imposed onto a chimp says she's sorry, but insists she wasn't trying to be racist.
No, you didn't even have to try.
04-19-2011
boutons_deux
Re: Republican didn't think Obama as chimp e-mail was racist
Repugs, the repugnant party of the old, white, country-club, wealthy, racist Have-It-Alls, the party of all Human-Americans.
As dubya said to the NAACP: "We value the black VOTE" (but value black people? ...)
04-19-2011
DarrinS
Re: Republican didn't think Obama as chimp e-mail was racist
This would never happen to a white POTUS, like Bush.
04-19-2011
George Gervin's Afro
Re: Republican didn't think Obama as chimp e-mail was racist
Tea Potty!
04-19-2011
jack sommerset
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Re: Republican didn't think Obama as chimp e-mail was racist
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Originally Posted by Drachen
who fucking cares about this.
Apparently the liberals do. Playing the race card with it. OK to compare president Bush with a monkey, but not Obama... That is clearly a racist act!
Fuck you stupid idiots that think it's racist.
04-19-2011
TeyshaBlue
Re: Republican didn't think Obama as chimp e-mail was racist
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Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro
so what's your point dummy?
hey mcfly, how many of the photos that you posted were sent by a US Congressman?
get back to us on that...
It's only racist if sent by a senator?:monkey
04-19-2011
George Gervin's Afro
Re: Republican didn't think Obama as chimp e-mail was racist
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Originally Posted by TeyshaBlue
It's only racist if sent by a senator?:monkey
dang it... didn't read the article corrrectly..she was not a congresswoman... so either way making bush or oabama into a monkey is stupid.. but it is common knowledge that racists from the past compared black folks to monkeys...
04-19-2011
Wild Cobra
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Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro
dang it... didn't read the article corrrectly..she was not a congresswoman... so either way making bush or oabama into a monkey is stupid.. but it is common knowledge that racists from the past compared black folks to monkeys...
Why cant you racists live in the present rather than the past? leave the old primitive ideas out of the equation, and be color blind?
04-19-2011
TeyshaBlue
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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
Why cant you racists live in the present rather than the past? leave the old primitive ideas out of the equation, and be color blind?
GGA is not a racist. GFY.
04-19-2011
Wild Cobra
Re: Republican didn't think Obama as chimp e-mail was racist
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Originally Posted by TeyshaBlue
GGA is not a racist. GFY.
Maybe not, but I will call using the race card that anyway.
04-19-2011
clambake
Re: Republican didn't think Obama as chimp e-mail was racist
she sent a written apology.......on a watermelon.
04-19-2011
CuckingFunt
Re: Republican didn't think Obama as chimp e-mail was racist
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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
Why cant you racists live in the present rather than the past? leave the old primitive ideas out of the equation, and be color blind?
Recognizing/acknowledging racism is not a racist act. Nor is it playing the race card.
And the idea that connecting the image sent to the longstanding history of comparing the physiology of people of color to that of apes is somehow resurrecting long dead assumptions is laughable. Those assumptions haven't died, though their prominence has understandably lessened, and a photoshopped image depicting Obama as the descendant of chimpanzees is problematic no matter the contexts. Additionally, the comparison jacksommerset attempted to make between the Obama image and those of Bush (which, for the record, I find equally counterproductive and unfunny) is flawed due to the fact that the Bush images undermine his intelligence, rather than his humanity. Kind of an important difference.
04-19-2011
George Gervin's Afro
Re: Republican didn't think Obama as chimp e-mail was racist
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Originally Posted by CuckingFunt
Recognizing/acknowledging racism is not a racist act. Nor is it playing the race card.
And the idea that connecting the image sent to the longstanding history of comparing the physiology of people of color to that of apes is somehow resurrecting long dead assumptions is laughable. Those assumptions haven't died, though their prominence has understandably lessened, and a photoshopped image depicting Obama as the descendant of chimpanzees is problematic no matter the contexts. Additionally, the comparison jacksommerset attempted to make between the Obama image and those of Bush (which, for the record, I find equally counterproductive and unfunny) is flawed due to the fact that the Bush images undermine his intelligence, rather than his humanity. Kind of an important difference.
nuances..
04-19-2011
Wild Cobra
Re: Republican didn't think Obama as chimp e-mail was racist
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Originally Posted by CuckingFunt
Recognizing/acknowledging racism is not a racist act. Nor is it playing the race card.
And the idea that connecting the image sent to the longstanding history of comparing the physiology of people of color to that of apes is somehow resurrecting long dead assumptions is laughable. Those assumptions haven't died, though their prominence has understandably lessened, and a photoshopped image depicting Obama as the descendant of chimpanzees is problematic no matter the contexts. Additionally, the comparison jacksommerset attempted to make between the Obama image and those of Bush (which, for the record, I find equally counterproductive and unfunny) is flawed due to the fact that the Bush images undermine his intelligence, rather than his humanity. Kind of an important difference.
OK...
I guess using the race card on unproven perceived racism is just to be called terrible stupid.
04-19-2011
CuckingFunt
Re: Republican didn't think Obama as chimp e-mail was racist
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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
OK...
I guess using the race card on unproven perceived racism is just to be called terrible stupid.
No, I think terrible stupid should be reserved for describing a Republican Party official who decides to send out emails with a problematic image of the president rooted in racist ideologies.
Furthermore, labeling this "unproven perceived racism" is called revisionism.
04-19-2011
George Gervin's Afro
Re: Republican didn't think Obama as chimp e-mail was racist
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Originally Posted by CuckingFunt
No, I think terrible stupid should be reserved for describing a Republican Party official who decides to send out emails with a problematic image of the president rooted in racist ideologies.
Furthermore, labeling this "unproven perceived racism" is called revisionism.
Keep in mind WC wants to shoot illegals as they cross the border..
04-19-2011
Wild Cobra
Re: Republican didn't think Obama as chimp e-mail was racist
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Originally Posted by CuckingFunt
No, I think terrible stupid should be reserved for describing a Republican Party official who decides to send out emails with a problematic image of the president rooted in racist ideologies.
Furthermore, labeling this "unproven perceived racism" is called revisionism.
Your opinion. Can you prove she intended to make a racial statement? Hell NO! She could have just been ignorant to how people would see her intent.
I challenge you prove that 100% of the population understands what others consider racist?
Growing up in Oregon, I most certainly don't understand much of the south's ideas of prejudice. I was very ignorant to what some consider racist until visiting forums like this, and I'm sure there are still racist themes I have never heard of.
We are talking about someone from Orange county. Only 1.69% of their population is black. Do you really think such things come to their attention much?
04-19-2011
Wild Cobra
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Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro
Keep in mind WC wants to shoot illegals as they cross the border..
It's a more worthy war to fight than the war on drugs.
04-19-2011
clambake
Re: Republican didn't think Obama as chimp e-mail was racist
pretty funny how wc feels compelled to defend obvious racism.
04-19-2011
Wild Cobra
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Originally Posted by clambake
pretty funny how wc feels compelled to defend obvious racism.
My point is that it isn't obvious racism to everyone. Perceived does not mean it is. How many TV shows have monkeys been used in without any racial content?
04-19-2011
clambake
Re: Republican didn't think Obama as chimp e-mail was racist
and yet he still defends it. you needn't bother. your pretentious attempt to, is embarrassing.
04-19-2011
CuckingFunt
Re: Republican didn't think Obama as chimp e-mail was racist
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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
Your opinion. Can you prove she intended to make a racial statement? Hell NO! She could have just been ignorant to how people would see her intent.
I challenge you prove that 100% of the population understands what others consider racist?
Growing up in Oregon, I most certainly don't understand much of the south's ideas of prejudice. I was very ignorant to what some consider racist until visiting forums like this, and I'm sure there are still racist themes I have never heard of.
We are talking about someone from Orange county. Only 1.69% of their population is black. Do you really think such things come to their attention much?
Firstly, ignorance isn't an excuse.
Secondly, you don't have to have grown up in the south or around a large population of black people to know the history of racism in this country. It's not as if the countless documents/cartoons/etc. that made this comparison were secret and/or unique to certain communities.
Thirdly, even if we were to go along with your hypothetical (and frankly baseless) suggestion that she was completely unaware of the historical precedents, do you honestly think that the circulation of images which dehumanize one's political opponent (or anyone else, for that matter) is an act worthy of defense?
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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
My point is that it isn't obvious racism to everyone. Perceived does not mean it is. How many TV shows have monkeys been used in without any racial content?
I refuse to believe anyone can really be this stupid. Apes on their own aren't inherently racist. You'll notice that no one here is attacking zoos for their connection to ante- and postbellum ethnographic rhetoric.
04-19-2011
Creepn
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Originally Posted by CuckingFunt
Thirdly, even if we were to go along with your hypothetical (and frankly baseless) suggestion that she was completely unaware of the historical precedents, do you honestly think that the circulation of images which dehumanize one's political opponent (or anyone else, for that matter) is an act worthy of defense?
That's a damn good question. I already know his answer.
"Racism is the outrage of that email picture, not the integrity of tactics one uses to fight the enemy. Since, we can't prove that she's being racist, that's what I'm defending against. I refuse to let a poor innocent citizen be assumed the worse just because the majority of Americans still wants to dabble in our dark history. CANT WE ALL MOVE ON PLEASE? Obviously this woman did and we should all learn from her!"
04-19-2011
MannyIsGod
Re: Republican didn't think Obama as chimp e-mail was racist
CF, he's really that stupid. Believe it.
04-19-2011
Oh, Gee!!
Re: Republican didn't think Obama as chimp e-mail was racist
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Originally Posted by Drachen
who fucking cares about this.
the Orange County GOP leadership I presume, since they asked her to step down because of the e-mail.
04-19-2011
Oh, Gee!!
Re: Republican didn't think Obama as chimp e-mail was racist
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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
Apparently the liberals do. Playing the race card with it. OK to compare president Bush with a monkey, but not Obama... That is clearly a racist act!
Fuck you stupid idiots that think it's racist.
what about this guy?
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Republican Party of Orange County chairman Scott Baugh, who was one of the original people who received the "highly inappropriate" Obama e-mail.
"It's a despicable message, it drips with racism and I think she should step down from the committee," he said.
04-19-2011
ohmwrecker
Re: Republican didn't think Obama as chimp e-mail was racist
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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
Apparently the liberals do. Playing the race card with it. OK to compare president Bush with a monkey, but not Obama... That is clearly a racist act!
Fuck you stupid idiots that think it's racist.
Bush isn't black, he's just dumb.
04-19-2011
ChumpDumper
Re: Republican didn't think Obama as chimp e-mail was racist
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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
Why cant you racists live in the present rather than the past? leave the old primitive ideas out of the equation, and be color blind?
Why can't you let a black person perform surgery on you?
04-19-2011
z0sa
Re: Republican didn't think Obama as chimp e-mail was racist
I find chimps to be extremely funny, mainly because of their mixture of cognizant learning abilities and animal instincts.
Superimpose pictures of chimps upon people, of any race anywhere, and they quickly lose their splendid humorous characteristics. That Republican official may not think she's racist, but she should definitely know her taste in humor is not only questionable politically but from a humor standpoint, as well.
I mean, seriously, what is supposed to be funny about the pictures?
04-19-2011
FromWayDowntown
Re: Republican didn't think Obama as chimp e-mail was racist
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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Why can't you let a black person perform surgery on you?
Obviously, that's not obvious racism to everyone.
Besides, categorically distrusting the professional credentials of those of one particular race (but only those of that race) who toil in a field is not racism.
Obviously.
04-19-2011
MaNuMaNiAc
Re: Republican didn't think Obama as chimp e-mail was racist
:lol
He's nothing if not predictable, good ole WC.
04-19-2011
mouse
Re: Republican didn't think Obama as chimp e-mail was racist
Where are all the Darwin supports?
04-19-2011
Spursmania
Re: Republican didn't think Obama as chimp e-mail was racist
:sleep
04-19-2011
ManuBalboa
Re: Republican didn't think Obama as chimp e-mail was racist
This thread is now about how cool monkeys are.
04-19-2011
Def Rowe
Re: Republican didn't think Obama as chimp e-mail was racist
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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
Why can't you be color blind like me.
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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
I don't trust black surgeons.
:lmao
04-19-2011
ohmwrecker
Re: Republican didn't think Obama as chimp e-mail was racist
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Originally Posted by FromWayDowntown
Obviously, that's not obvious racism to everyone.
Besides, categorically distrusting the professional credentials of those of one particular race (but only those of that race) who toil in a field is not racism.
Obviously.
I hope this is sarcasm . . .
04-19-2011
ChuckD
Re: Republican didn't think Obama as chimp e-mail was racist
White person as chimp = probably disrespectful and insulting
Black person as chimp = racist meme, hundreds of years old
04-19-2011
DMX7
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Originally Posted by Def Rowe
:lmao
According to that joker, blacks are the only real racists.
04-20-2011
mouse
Re: Republican didn't think Obama as chimp e-mail was racist
Politician post a funny Obama monkey picture it's racism.
SNL post the same picture it's comedy gold NBC's ratings go up.
Radio talk show host calls a bunch of black women playing basketball nappy ho's its racism and lost of Job.
Chris Rock says the same thing people laugh and he gets another contract on HBO.
How fucked up is the country?
04-20-2011
ChumpDumper
Re: Republican didn't think Obama as chimp e-mail was racist
Sorry you aren't funny, mouse.
04-20-2011
LnGrrrR
Re: Republican didn't think Obama as chimp e-mail was racist
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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
Your opinion. Can you prove she intended to make a racial statement? Hell NO! She could have just been ignorant to how people would see her intent.
I challenge you prove that 100% of the population understands what others consider racist?
Growing up in Oregon, I most certainly don't understand much of the south's ideas of prejudice. I was very ignorant to what some consider racist until visiting forums like this, and I'm sure there are still racist themes I have never heard of.
We are talking about someone from Orange county. Only 1.69% of their population is black. Do you really think such things come to their attention much?
It doesnt matter whether she was "trying" to be racist or not. It's how it's perceived.
If I use the n word with a white friend, and a black person hears it and gets offended, do you think I'd escape trouble because I wasn't truly tryingto offend them? That wouldn't fly.
Don't you have HR Departments where you work WC?
04-20-2011
Wild Cobra
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Originally Posted by LnGrrrR
It doesnt matter whether she was "trying" to be racist or not. It's how it's perceived.
If I use the n word with a white friend, and a black person hears it and gets offended, do you think I'd escape trouble because I wasn't truly tryingto offend them? That wouldn't fly.
Don't you have HR Departments where you work WC?
No, perception is not a qualifier for intent. I'm surprised you too are being brain washed by this PC crowd. Workplace is different than reality because they have to reduce hostility in the workplace and can make their own rules. That doesn't make it racism.
04-20-2011
mouse
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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Sorry you aren't funny, mouse.
Trust me there is enough comedy around here watching you backpedal everyday.
By you thinking I was trying to be funny explains why you never get the points I make.
04-20-2011
ChumpDumper
Re: Republican didn't think Obama as chimp e-mail was racist
It was just a general observation, mouse.
Sorry you are so sensitive.
lol points you make
04-20-2011
mouse
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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
It was just a general observation, mouse.
Kinda like your 9/11 observations?
one sided and impossible conclusions.
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Sorry you are so sensitive.
I take my comedy serious.
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lol points you make
I tell it like it is and have yet to see anyone debunk my knowledge.
04-20-2011
clambake
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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
No, perception is not a qualifier for intent.
in many cases.....it is. like this one.
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I'm surprised you too are being brain washed by this PC crowd.
are you truly this stupid?
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Workplace is different than reality because they have to reduce hostility in the workplace and can make their own rules. That doesn't make it racism.
workplace is absolute reality. but thanks for admitting this had hostile intent.
04-20-2011
ChumpDumper
Re: Republican didn't think Obama as chimp e-mail was racist
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Originally Posted by mouse
Kinda like your 9/11 observations?
one sided and impossible conclusions.
Your not being funny is quite within the realm of possibility.
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I take my comedy serious.
More's the pity.
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I tell it like it is and have yet to see anyone debunk my knowledge.
Sorry you can't see that when it happens too. It's not an uncommon event.
04-20-2011
LnGrrrR
Re: Republican didn't think Obama as chimp e-mail was racist
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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
No, perception is not a qualifier for intent. I'm surprised you too are being brain washed by this PC crowd. Workplace is different than reality because they have to reduce hostility in the workplace and can make their own rules. That doesn't make it racism.
So who determines intent? Because if you say "the person making the comment" then everyone will claim non-racism.
Don't you think she might have intended racism, and is lying about it now? Can you prove 100% that she's not racist?
04-20-2011
clambake
Re: Republican didn't think Obama as chimp e-mail was racist
he already admitted it was hostile.
04-20-2011
mouse
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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Your not being funny is quite within the realm of possibility.
You will know when I am joking your sides will be hurting from laughter.
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More's the pity.
^ Mr. T joke here but I am better than that.
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Sorry you can't see that when it happens too. It's not an uncommon event.
So what do you think really happened on 9/11?
04-20-2011
Wild Cobra
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Originally Posted by LnGrrrR
So who determines intent? Because if you say "the person making the comment" then everyone will claim non-racism.
Don't you think she might have intended racism, and is lying about it now? Can you prove 100% that she's not racist?
What nation do you hail from? Cuba? Guilty till proven innocent?
04-20-2011
LnGrrrR
Re: Republican didn't think Obama as chimp e-mail was racist
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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
What nation do you hail from? Cuba? Guilty till proven innocent?
:lmao
WC, you're the first to assign possibly bad motives to any Democrat who says anything. Give me a break.
04-20-2011
LnGrrrR
Re: Republican didn't think Obama as chimp e-mail was racist
She's either racist or an idiot. Take your pick.
04-20-2011
CuckingFunt
Re: Republican didn't think Obama as chimp e-mail was racist
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Originally Posted by LnGrrrR
She's either racist or an idiot. Take your pick.
I think there's a third possibility...
04-20-2011
clambake
Re: Republican didn't think Obama as chimp e-mail was racist
actually, she's both.
04-20-2011
clambake
Re: Republican didn't think Obama as chimp e-mail was racist
CF has a quicker mouse button
04-20-2011
Wild Cobra
Re: Republican didn't think Obama as chimp e-mail was racist
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Originally Posted by LnGrrrR
:lmao
WC, you're the first to assign possibly bad motives to any Democrat who says anything. Give me a break.
Not always. You know it.
So... Tit-for-tat? Two wrongs make a right? Is that your philosophy?
04-20-2011
LnGrrrR
Re: Republican didn't think Obama as chimp e-mail was racist
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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
Not always. You know it.
So... Tit-for-tat? Two wrongs make a right? Is that your philosophy?
Where are you from, Cuba? Am I now guilty before innocent? You cant prove 100% what the intent of my post was. Keep an open mind.
04-20-2011
ChumpDumper
Re: Republican didn't think Obama as chimp e-mail was racist
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Originally Posted by mouse
You will know when I am joking your sides will be hurting from laughter.
Hasn't happened yet. Have you never tried to be funny on these boards?
