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i respect porter and his opinion. both teams kicked the bucks ass this season...and it's a tossup imo.
i felt bad porter didn't get a ring with our Spurs...I think that has something to do with his prognostication...
i also like Sparky's take that he has an eye on the detroit job....
Yes, you are clearly a basketball genius, as evidenced by this post. Since Porter WAS the point guard, was he passing the ball back out to himself? I don't recall his being quick enough to do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fouled Out
Porter has some good points on that not double teaming Duncan would limit San Antonio's offense. Miami gave Detroit so many problems because Wade was probably the best penetrator in the NBA. He takes it to the hole strong. This is going to be an extremely low scoring series. The thing he failed to realize is Billups is turnover prone which will give San Antonio some fastbreak opportunities like what Miami did.
yeah, San Antonio did struggle quite a bit when Seattle wasn't doubling Tim. If it wasn't for Manu's heroics that could have been a whole different series. Tony ain't likely to get shit in this series billups is much much stronger than ridnour while Detroit even poses a bigger defensive threat than Seattle.
See, seattle and detroit has some similarities. Seattle for one relied on Ray allen like the pistons depend on Rip to get shots. nevertheless they had Daniels who was unstoppable down the stretch. but his game was more of a penetration game in comparison to billups who shoots jumpers (which i think would be to our advantage).
offensively their big men opts to pop more than roll in their plays (Mcdyess and Rasheed), other than Ben no big man takes the ball strong to the hole in a consistent basis (hell i call it consistent because it's the only thing he opts to do in the few occassions that he wanted to get offense besides that once a game jump shot).
so i guess the pick and roll shouldn't be much of a problem since we can guard both options with relative ease.
Unlike Seattle detroit likes to post more (Billups, Rasheed and Mcdyess). im betting Robert and Nazr could take both big guys.
Their offensive rebounding is slightly weaker than seattle. they tend to tap the ball out more rather than snatch it. Which IMHO is dangerous when the opposing team has someone named Ginobili.
Then they have that bread and butter of theirs w/ Rip running around screens etc. w/ bruce i think we can see rip not shooting a great percentage.
Detroit's offense is too limited to really be the deciding factor. IMO Seattle prepared us well for this series defensively. we just need to execute better against their defense. (which is stellar).
whoopsie i forgot about prince... now that would be a problem
I think what will make the difference in this series is Detroit is turnover prone. San Antonio is the best at forcing turnovers which will give San Antonio many fastbreak opportunities. Seattle was very good at not turning it over so the Detroit and Seattle comparison isn't quite similar.
This series will be decided on how well the Detroit Pistons can handle the Spurs offense. The Pistons have a tendancy to go through shooting droughts. They don't seem likely to push the ball up court for easy transition makes. Having said that, the Pistons are going to have to limit the Spurs transition offense because with Manu, Tony, and Barry the Spurs will be looking to run. In the half court, Duncan will primarily run the offense. I can see the Spurs playing a lot more pick and roll. Manu will be Manu and drive to the lane at almost every oppurtunity. Nazr will board a few and cherry pick off of Duncan's double teams, and Horry will get open looks from beyond the arc. All in all, the Pistons are going to have to show up defensively each game otherwise this will be a short series.
I doubt Detroit will double Duncan.Quote:
Originally Posted by weebo
really?? he's like the 5th or 6th guy that should scare uQuote:
Originally Posted by PistonFreak
He makes big shots in the 4th quarter and has done it consistently.Quote:
Originally Posted by nkdlunch
Actually, I can see the Pistons doubling Duncan at certain points in the series. Maybe not excusively but it will happen.
Porter's analysis is right on.
If they don't double Shaq than why would they double Duncan? This might happen but rarely.
That's it, everybody forget it, you can't argue with his point. :angelQuote:
Originally Posted by tlongII
The guy had no balls in shooting the ball himself!!! He did all that work for nothing. Sorry Dude he did suck.Quote:
Originally Posted by Extra Stout
He scares them because he can shoot. End of story. Yes Barry has struggled for the majority of the year, but that doesn't mean he can't drop the three. And if they focus so much around the big three, then bowen, barry, and rob are going to be getting shots. It's that 5th or 6th option that is supposed to scare you. The first options are going to get theres, but if the bench is putting up points then thats the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by nkdlunch
define suck. He was our backup point guard. We got him at the end of his career. He gave us good minutes, good leadership, and decent shooting. Was he at the level of Parker when he was here, no. Did he play well for us, yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fouled Out
I went a little far with the "dope" part. I still disagree and wonder if he doesn't know what he's talking about. Anyone with a guy named ben wallace can't have a good half court offense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Extra Stout
Really, everybody is entitled to their opinion I just wonder if he's seen more of det since he's played them more and seen less tape of the spurs.
Someone with some commonsense as to why I said he scares me. That and I don't think the pistons bench matches up well with him.Quote:
Originally Posted by mavsfan1000
While I certainly don't get happy because Terry Porter thinks we will win, I must disagree with you guys on our offense. We played some VERY good defensive teams this post-season guys.
Indiana is obviously among the league leaders. And any team with Shaq in the middle is going to be hard to execute on. When we played the Suns, we we're scoring lots of points too. I'm just stating not to underestimate our offense, we can score and have shown that. We just can't do it on a consistent basis, but if i'm not mistaken you share that problem as well.
Comparing your offensive stats against Seattle and the Suns aren't fair when we played better defensive teams.
Porter's just jealous because he never got a ring in Phat Antonio or Shortland.
At the end of his career, good minutes, the guy was running around the court like a chicken without a head, leadership no mentor maybe, shooting he ran more then he shot, I saw little production out of that guy. If you got a shot at an open lane you hall ass threw it and shoot it. He made stupid passes when he should have shot the ball. He did run threw the lane and came out empty 65 percent of the time. What a waste of energy.Quote:
Originally Posted by benjirh
If we were still relying on Porter to hit shots for us in the playoffs...he'd be right.
I've been nice to Porter because he came here to win a ring and played hard...
But the simple truth of the matter is that cocksucker choked more than anyone ever has on this team...
Is it any coincidence that our titles were bookends to Terry Porter's Spur career?
It's not...Fucking choker.
Hey Terry...maybe one day you'll realize that you are the reason you don't have a ring...
I didn't say it at the time but the day your Spurs career ended I heaved a sigh of relief...mainly because I no longer had to bite my tongue while trying to maintain patience and treat a classy guy with the respect he then deserved...but he's an idiot...he's as a much of a reason as anyone that the Spurs have a less than stellar image of being able to win the big one. He also was a huge factor in our 3 years run of being LA's playoff bitch.
Thanks Speedy and Kerr...Terry? You can STFU and not talk about subjects you aren't qualified to talk about(winning in this case).
I don't know, man; gotta be honest with ourselves here. In the regular season, we averaged a paltry 93.3 ppg; might not seem that bad, until you compare it to the Spurs' scorching 96.2. Like the fans here have pointed out, that's a pretty staggering difference, a gulf of oceanic size, a yawning 2.9 ppg chasm into which a champion team could fall and disappear without a trace....hee hee.Quote:
Originally Posted by combs84
It may not be a chasm but it is significant. The difference in being #18 in the league vs. being #24.
I'm guessing you already knew that though. The Pistons losing games by 3 points doesn't sound too farfetched to me in this series.
Win, loss, nothing either way sounds too farfetched in this series. I do get a kick out of seeing the Pistons' offense called inefficient and "mediocre" when the difference is that small, though.
We can argue stats and matchups all night and all day tomorrow, but with two teams this closely matched, the deciding factors are things you can't measure and tabulate - it'll come down to who's got tighter team play and who just plain wants it more.