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Call me loco or kookoo, but is Manu the next MJ?
Before peeps rip me, I know there is & will only be one of a kind MJ, but the more I see Manu play, especially his performance in the Olympics & this season during the reg season & playoffs, he reminds me a lot of MJ.
He reminds me of MJ in his style of play, his competitive nature & drive, wanting the ball in crunch time, creating & delivering, the numerous BIG plays he's come up with on both OFF & DEF & his humbleness about it all.
His circus shots that make you go WOW just like MJ used to, whether you hate him or not. I have a feeling before it's all said & done, that people will be mentioning MG in the same breathe as MJ!
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Re: Call me loco or kookoo, but is Manu the next MJ?
kookoo
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There's no next MJ. Manu isn't even close to that level.
Did you notice at the All-Star game that Manu wasn't even at the same level as some (most?) of the other All-Stars on the court? Manu is flashy and he's damn good, but I don't think he's close to superstar status.
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No.
Manu prefers driving, but MJ has a way better jumper. Manu barely takes mid-range shots. Manu only has 2 attacks: driving to the whole, and the 3 pointer...I'm not saying that's a bad thing, it deffinetly works.
MJ could do it all...
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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
but I don't think he's close to superstar status.
What do you consider a superstar?
Name players that are superstars, and players in the category right before "superstar"
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He shows flashes of being great/superstar. PHX 48pts, Denver series. He just doesn't do conssistently enough. He'll be lucky if he gets another allstar.
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Not MJ, but he is going to be a top 5 draw in the NBA in 2 yrs, as far as jersey sales, and endorsement contracts.
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Sure, but it's a long list you'd be adding him to. Kobe, TMac, Grant Hill, Vince Carter, Dwyane Wade, etc. Have I missed anyone?
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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
kookoo
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There's no next MJ. Manu isn't even close to that level.
Did you notice at the All-Star game that Manu wasn't even at the same level as some (most?) of the other All-Stars on the court? Manu is flashy and he's damn good, but I don't think he's close to superstar status.
Please don't tell me you count the Allstars to grade a player's level.
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Originally Posted by DisgruntledLionFan#54,927
Sure, but it's a long list you'd be adding him too. Kobe, TMac, Grant Hill, Vince Carter, Dwyane Wade, etc. Have I missed anyone?
Lebron
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The only other player I've seen that made me think of MJ, was Kobe & the stuff that guy did on the court. How he would take over games & his circus type shots.
MG this season is like watching MJ, you just sit there screaming @ the TV "Give the ball to MG!" & just sit with anticipation trying to figure out what move he's going to pull off next.
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Originally Posted by jcrod
He'll be lucky if he gets another allstar.
I disagree.
It seems that Manu has only gotten more popular than he was before the all-star game. He's been on a bunch of commercials, his team is back in the finals, he's getting all this media attention, so I think he will be an all-star next year.
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Re: Call me loco or kookoo, but is Manu the next MJ?
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Originally Posted by nkdlunch
Please don't tell me you count the Allstars to grade a player's level.
No, I was giving an example. I count the 5-10 NBA games a week that I watch to grade a player's level.
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he might not be MJ but he sure is MG!
and he is one CMF!
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The next off the map superstar name belongs to Wade, Lebron or Ben Gordon. Ginoboli is to out of control.
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Hell no. Not even close. But I think he does have MJ's competitve nature.
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Manu did belong in the All Star game and did blend in with those players. He was better than half of those so called superstars.
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Someday, someone is going to be asking "Who's the Next Manu?". :spin
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Originally Posted by combs84
The next off the map superstar name belongs to Wade, Lebron or Ben Gordon. Ginoboli is to out of control.
Maybe, but none of those players have excelled in leading their team to a championship(yet). Manu has a chance to do it this year and the next few as well.
He'd have to average 25+, hit multiple game winning shots, and win at least 5 titles. Plus, it isn't his team, which will hurt him...
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Sorry man, but being a HUGE Manu fan I have to say you are INSANE. Seriously dude, get professional help.
Kori, I'm not sure what you mean. If you compare Manu with other guards, I would probably put him behind only Kobe, Wade and Lebron. I would never say Allen, T Mac or Carter. Those are players with no heart that only care about money and looking good. I would keep a warrior like Manu every day of the week.
Sorry to hear you wouldn't.
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I bet if you told this to Manu, he would probably say "hell no."
Manu's favorite player as a kid was MJ.
I remember before the all-star game, Manu was on a post game interview, and the reporter asked him about how he feels that he might be an all-star...
Manu responded: "Even if I don't get chosen as an all-star, I'm very proud of myself for even being considered being all-star." ...or something like that.
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He is not the next MJ.
There is only one MJ, just like ther is only 1 Dr.J, Bird, Magic, etc.
they can never be equaled, each is on different platform.
BUT: Manu is sure on his way to being a basketball GOD. Maybe not at ^^that level^^
but prretty near too. He is amazing, and still has time (age wise) to improve nad build his skills thru experiance.
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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
No, I was giving an example. I count the 5-10 NBA games a week that I watch to grade a player's level.
Cool, 'cause even he said it, he shines brightest when there is the need to win. He was actually pretty pissed off when he played in the Rookie All-stars, and those fools turned the game into a dunk contest.
He'll probably won't give a damn if he ever plays another allstar game.
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manu just needed to drive more and shoot less in that game....he would have done even better.
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Ginobili gets my "CMF" Award for sure. The Crazy Mada F*cka Award!
He almost single handedly won last years Olympics vs USA. He had 29 points.
If ever we going to see any Spurs on Spurs that was it! He beat Timmy and the
rest of future "MJ's" , Wade,Lebron,etc. and he did it in one of the WORLD'S biggest stages,maybe bigger than the NBA Finals!
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Re: Call me loco or kookoo, but is Manu the next MJ?
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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
kookoo
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There's no next MJ. Manu isn't even close to that level.
Did you notice at the All-Star game that Manu wasn't even at the same level as some (most?) of the other All-Stars on the court? Manu is flashy and he's damn good, but I don't think he's close to superstar status.
you are so way off it's not funny. All-Star game Manu did just fine for his first go around, plus add in the injuries and he probably did more than fine.
Manu has absolutely carried this team to the finals and without him the spurs are at home and this board is dead.
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Originally Posted by nkdlunch
Cool, 'cause even he said it, he shines brightest when there is the need to win. He was actually pretty pissed off when he played in the Rookie All-stars, and those fools turned the game into a dunk contest.
I was there at the All-Star game and in the lockerroom afterward. I am not using the All-Star to define Manu, but he struggled there. He turned the ball over 3 times and committed 3 fouls in very limited minutes. He looked very awkward among the stars. He was a borderline All-Star this season.
Manu is awesome. He can take over games and he's great for SportsCenter highlights. But he's not at Duncan, Kobe, etc. superstar level. And guys like Wade, LeBron, etc. will have career's closer to MJ's than Manu will.
Manu might not ever make another All-Star team. There are a lot of good wing players in the NBA and Manu is already 28.
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Manu however is not the next MJ. No one ever will. MJ was at a completely different world.
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I would rather take Manu over Wade but not over Lebron.
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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
Manu might not ever make another All-Star team. There are a lot of good wing players in the NBA and Manu is already 28.
Shame on you Kori! :nope
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Originally Posted by vanvannen
Shame on you Kori! :nope
:lol
It's just my opinion. Relax.
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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
Manu might not ever make another All-Star team. There are a lot of good wing players in the NBA and Manu is already 28.
Manu will be an all-star next year, and Manu is turning 28 in July, which means he's 27.
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there is no "next MJ" and will never be. There is one MJ and will always be one MJ. You have a lot of players who are good and even great right now but none will be MJ. That being said, Manu, IMO, is only going to get better.
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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
Did you notice at the All-Star game that Manu wasn't even at the same level as some (most?) of the other All-Stars on the court?
Thats because he's too generous player to be around those show-offs. His most valuable ability is to play the best for the team. He's got not the best jumpshot, we all know that, but he doesnt need to take too many of those to help a team win.
I guess he'll never be recognized as an all-star for you. Oh well...
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Manu is turning 28 in July, which means he's 27.
Sorry, I made a mistake. He's 27 and 11 months.
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MG is the post-MJ of this GEN, so get used to it!
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Re: Call me loco or kookoo, but is Manu the next MJ?
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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
Sorry, I made a mistake. He's 27 and 11 months.
You've made another mistake, he's 27 and 10 months.
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Originally Posted by ALVAREZ6
You've made another mistake, he's 27 and 10 months.
:lol You said his birthday was in July -- it's June. Sorry -- I don't care exactly how old he is. With Manu's style of play, he'll probably be out of the league in his early 30's. That was my point, he's not young and improving.
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A player normally starts reaching their peak at 28. So Manu is not even at his peak yet and will be even better next year.
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I have to check with Whottt but does math smack go above or below spelling smack? :lol
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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
:lol You said his birthday was in July -- it's June. Sorry -- I don't care exactly how old he is. With Manu's style of play, he'll probably be out of the league in his early 30's. That was my point, he's not young and improving.
I got your point, I just wanted to be an ass.
BTW, his birthday IS in July, but July 28th, meaning he is still 27 and 10 months until June 28th.
Get it right! :lol
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Manu might not ever make another All-Star team. There are a lot of good wing players in the NBA and Manu is already 28.
you are way off. The only game of the playoffs that the spurs were on the brink of elimination was game 6 against the sonics. 2 of our 3 stars folded, Manu put up 39 now that's a superstar.
Also, comparing someones game in the allstar game is foolish. Same as comparing someones game in the olympics. All that counts are the playoffs, where legends are born and Manu has been a top 5 performer.
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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
:lol
It's just my opinion. Relax.
Kori, I believe that in the Spurs Fan Contract is specificaly stipulates you can not have opinions that maybe construed in anyway as "negative" or of "ill feeling".
Sub section 23 part B reads:
"and by so signing I confirm I wish, as a Spurs fan, to only be a homer and live my life blindly pro-spurs (players, management et.all) at risk of even my life"
So I will therefore ignore what you had previously posted.
:elephant
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Re: Call me loco or kookoo, but is Manu the next MJ?
What does the All Star game have to do with Manu's ability? It's not his kind of game anyway. He is more of a versatile role player than Superstar scorer/player. Even super scores who have done well in All Star games in the past were no where near the best player in the league (ala Glen Rice).
Isn't it more accurate to say that through watching the 82games that Manu is a borderline all star, as opposed to the actual game?
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Originally Posted by samikeyp
I have to check with Whottt but does math smack go above or below spelling smack? :lol
:lol
I really think that if Kobe hadn't fallen into the problems that he's fallen into, he's have been the closest thing to the "next MJ:" we'll see. LJ, Wade, Manu etc have their own special thing that they are good at. LJ-dunking, Wade-penetrating, Manu-wild shots. When Kobe was on during that championship stretch, his game reminded me of MJ's. That confidence of taking that clutch shot, the assists, the defense, etc. It's a shame that such a talent has gone to waste. He really had a great oppurtunity.
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Originally Posted by 1Parker1
we'll see. LJ, Wade, Manu etc have their own special thing that they are good at. LJ-dunking, Wade-penetrating, Manu-wild shots.
Correction (if I may). Manu does all the other things too. But only when needed.
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Originally Posted by kori
he's not young and improving.
your take is getting worse and worse by the minute. Manu is not improving?
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He's a poor man's MJ, which is a helluva compliment.
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Originally Posted by hendrix
Correction (if I may). Manu does all the other things too. But only when needed.
He gets to do those things because he has a guy named Tim Duncan in the middle. Who did MJ have in the middle?
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Originally Posted by 2centsworth
your take is getting worse and worse by the minute. Manu is not improving?
He's not "young and improving" compared to guys like LeBron and Wade. It's not that difficult to understand what I'm saying.
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Originally Posted by 2centsworth
your take is getting worse and worse by the minute. Manu is not improving?
By the way, to the sports writer: Isn't it said "he's not young NOR improving"?
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Originally Posted by GrandeDavid
He's a poor man's MJ, which is a helluva compliment.
I'll agree to that. His style/approach to the game is very different from MJ's.
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if the spurs did not press the issue would manu have even made the allstar game this year?
not saying he did not deserve to go.
I think manu has peaked this year
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Isn't it more accurate to say that through watching the 82games that Manu is a borderline all star, as opposed to the actual game?
Yes and that's what I did say. I used the All-Star game as an example (which I knew beforehand would get misconstued).
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Originally Posted by hendrix
By the way, to the sports writer: Isn't it said "he's not young NOR improving"?
No, because I didn't mean "NOR." I meant he's not "young and improving."
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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
He's not "young and improving" compared to guys like LeBron and Wade. It's not that difficult to understand what I'm saying.
he's not right out of high school, but he's improving.
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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
He's not "young and improving" compared to guys like LeBron and Wade. It's not that difficult to understand what I'm saying.
The young part you might be right. But how do you know he won't keep improving next year. He's been improving every year, why should this stop now?
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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
Yes and that's what I did say. I used the All-Star game as an example (which I knew beforehand would get misconstued).
Even if Manu did awesome in the game I don't think it would make a difference in my judgement of him as a player. But thats just me.
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Originally Posted by 2centsworth
he's not right out of high school, but he's improving.
Here to make it clearer for you ... I'm saying he's not BOTH young AND improving, like guys like LeBron and Wade. In other words, we are not going to see Manu getting better and better for five plus years and get to the point of being with the likes of MJ. After a couple more years, Manu will begin to decline, not just because of his age but because of exhaustion of his type of play.
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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
No, because I didn't mean "NOR." I meant he's not "young and improving."
So then he can be "old and improving"? Or "young and getting worse"? Or something like that. Please help, I thought there was no way around your point. Much better then.
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No it's like this.
Manu is not young but is still improving. Players don't hit their peak till about 28. So Manu is barely rising to his prime.
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Too many posts arguing who's better, Manu or Jordan...earlier in the season it was Manu vs Kobe and now he graduates to this level of comparison....man...I'm tired of reading this nonsense. He's good...but Jordan.....1 48 point game isn't going to do it....hell Tony Delk had a 50 point game.
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:lol Beware of the Church of Manu, Kori. I've had to experience it myself, and it wasn't pretty.
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Originally Posted by Medvedenko
Too many posts arguing who's better, Manu or Jordan...earlier in the season it was Manu vs Kobe and now he graduates to this level of comparison....man...I'm tired of reading this nonsense. He's good...but Jordan.....1 48 point game isn't going to do it....hell Tony Delk had a 50 point game.
If you actually read the thread, you'd see that everyone agrees the comparison and this thread is stupid.
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Princess is feeling the wrath of the Manu Defenders. If you don't say that Manu is the best human ever created, you are bound to get bashed into submission.
God is Good, God is Great
We thank Him for our Manu
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Yeah, chill out people. Manu is good for you? Great, now don't try to be the Manu's witnesses and convert other people. If they don't want to believe it's their choice.
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Originally Posted by timvp
Princess is feeling the wrath of the Manu Defenders. If you don't say that Manu is the best human ever created, you are bound to get bashed into submission.
God is Good, God is Great
We thank Him for our Manu
:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao
All of this is just too damned funny! Obviously game one can't start soon enough.
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mj could play every minute of a game
manu can not
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some BEER TOSSER started a "Virtual Melee" in some other thread!
melee,melee!
I am outa here!
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mj could play every minute of a game
manu can not
You mean Jordan can be a dominate presense of every minute of the game, Manu cannot.
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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
Here to make it clearer for you ... I'm saying he's not BOTH young AND improving, like guys like LeBron and Wade. In other words, we are not going to see Manu getting better and better for five plus years and get to the point of being with the likes of MJ. After a couple more years, Manu will begin to decline, not just because of his age but because of exhaustion of his type of play.
Your argument is that he's not even close to being a superstar, I'm telling you he's a superstar right now because of his performance in the playoffs not some crappy all-star game. He's not michael jordan, but he's a freak in his own right and clutch as hell. I'll make this clearer for you, without Manu the spurs are at home and don't win in '03 either.
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Originally Posted by 2centsworth
Your argument is that he's not even close to being a superstar, I'm telling you he's a superstar right now because of his performance in the playoffs not some crappy all-star game. He's not michael jordan, but he's a freak in his own right and clutch as hell. I'll make this clearer for you, without Manu the spurs are at home and don't win in '03 either.
God is Good, God is Great
We thank Him for our Manu
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Originally Posted by timvp
Princess is feeling the wrath of the Manu Defenders. If you don't say that Manu is the best human ever created, you are bound to get bashed into submission.
God is Good, God is Great
We thank Him for our Manu
:rollin Best reply ever.
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Originally Posted by 2centsworth
Your argument is that he's not even close to being a superstar, I'm telling you he's a superstar right now because of his performance in the playoffs not some crappy all-star game.
That's your definition of superstar; I guess it's not mine. A couple seasons of good playoff performances doesn't make a superstar to me. It's a longevity of superb play to me, which I don't think Manu will sustain over years and years to come. To me, there are very very few superstars.
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He's not michael jordan, but he's a freak in his own right and clutch as hell. I'll make this clearer for you, without Manu the spurs are at home and don't win in '03 either.
True, I've said that throughout the playoffs.
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Originally Posted by timvp
God is Good, God is Great
We thank Him for our Manu
I very much thank the basketball gods for Manu.
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Honestly, I've actually converted to the Church of Manu. Manu has improved so much that I think he's a top ten player in the league. His drive to win is unmatched and his performances have been out of this world. His improvement from year to year has been jaw dropping. Hell, his improvement from this regular season to the playoffs has been awesome.
Now if he has a big Finals and continues to play how he's been playing in the playoffs, I will go on record saying he's a top five player in the league.
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:lol Beware of the Church of Manu, Kori. I've had to experience it myself, and it wasn't pretty.
Church of Manu :lol :lol . You're not kidding, I've seen it and it's not worth arguing sometimes.
He was fresh of winning the Olympics and having the 48pt game at PHX. Trust me guys, if he doesn't pick up his scoring avg, he's not going to make another allstar avg 16-17 pts a game. Not over Kobe or Tmac. You're not going to see three guards and one point guard again. Nash, Bibby, TP, Davis will take the 3rd and 4th guard spot.
He's good, he's a Spur, we're winning. Lets be happy and quit taking the Manu drugs.
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Manu will be the next MJ after he wins 5 more championships. Just because people around here don't believe he's not the next MJ, doesn't make Manu any less of a great player and discount what he's done this year.
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Originally Posted by timvp
Honestly, I've actually converted to the Church of Manu. Manu has improved so much that I think he's a top ten player in the league. His drive to win is unmatched and his performances have been out of this world. His improvement from year to year has been jaw dropping. Hell, his improvement from this regular season to the playoffs has been awesome.
Now if he has a big Finals and continues to play how he's been playing in the playoffs, I will go on record saying he's a top five player in the league.
Now you're on Manu crack.
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No more next MJ!
No more next Magic!
No more next ______!
That's the problem with alot of people, still waiting the next ________!
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Now you're on Manu crack.
He drank the Manu koolaid. I tried to stop him, but he was damn thirsty.
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He drank the Manu koolaid. I tried to stop him, but he was damn thirsty.
:lol I drank some Parker koolaid this afternoon. It was damn good!
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:drunk
Thank you. May I have another?
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That's your definition of superstar; I guess it's not mine. A couple seasons of good playoff performances doesn't make a superstar to me. It's a longevity of superb play to me, which I don't think Manu will sustain over years and years to come. To me, there are very very few superstars.
I dig you a whole bunch Kori, but your definition has changed in this thread. You started by using the all-star game performance, and now you're saying his future doesn't look bright.
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True, I've said that throughout the playoffs.
Plus, the guy has acheived at the highest level in international ball. The guy is a superstar, and if he can continue to improve he will be mentioned in the same breath as Kobe and Mcgrady.
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Honestly, I've actually converted to the Church of Manu. Manu has improved so much that I think he's a top ten player in the league. His drive to win is unmatched and his performances have been out of this world. His improvement from year to year has been jaw dropping. Hell, his improvement from this regular season to the playoffs has been awesome.
Now if he has a big Finals and continues to play how he's been playing in the playoffs, I will go on record saying he's a top five player in the league.
Then why you dissin' the church?
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Manu is the best human ever created,
That's pushing it, I'd say best left handed, argentinian human w/a nose as big as a boot
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Honestly, I've actually converted to the Church of Manu. Manu has improved so much that I think he's a top ten player in the league. His drive to win is unmatched and his performances have been out of this world. His improvement from year to year has been jaw dropping. Hell, his improvement from this regular season to the playoffs has been awesome.
Now if he has a big Finals and continues to play how he's been playing in the playoffs, I will go on record saying he's a top five player in the league.
i don't know if that's sarcasm or not, but if the Spurs win and Manu wins MVP you damn str8 you will call him at least a top 10 player.
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i don't know if that's sarcasm or not, but if the Spurs win and Manu wins MVP you damn str8 you will call him at least a top 10 player.
Straight up, bro.
Manu has gotten better and better to the point that I'm not sure of another guard I'd want going into the fourth quarter of a big game.
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You started by using the all-star game performance, and now you're saying his future doesn't look bright.
I've said the same thing all along; I've said it in many threads.
I just said "Did you notice in the All-Star game ..." because at the All-Star game many people noticed that he was rattled. It was just an example of him being in the company of many other stars. I didn't say the All-Star was a tell-all on a player's development.
I love Manu and thinks he's incredible on this team. I think his will to win and his effort are superlative. I just don't think he's a superstar in my book. His name isn't getting to get etched along the side of guys like Jordan, Bird, Duncan, etc. But he's definitely a Champion. And definitely a key to this team.
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I've said the same thing all along; I've said it in many threads.
I just said "Did you notice in the All-Star game ..." because at the All-Star game many people noticed that he was rattled. It was just an example of him being in the company of many other stars. I didn't say the All-Star was a tell-all on a player's development.
I love Manu and thinks he's incredible on this team. I think his will to win and his effort are superlative. I just don't think he's a superstar in my book. His name isn't getting to get etched along the side of guys like Jordan, Bird, Duncan, etc. But he's definitely a Champion. And definitely a key to this team.
Ah, I think it's just your definition of superstar that messed me up. See, to me T-Mac, Kobe are superstars. Jordan, Bird are legends.
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Manu might have a tough time scoring in this series (relative to previous ones). But I trust him to find a way to make his mark on most games. If his shot is not falling, he should be able to make the hustle plays that will help the team.
Manu has played great in the playoffs thus far, and if he played similiar ball in the finals I would be very suprised and happy.
No Manu is not a Top 10 player in the league, but as a support player he might be one of the better ones to have on a championship team. Sure thats a vague phrase and tons of players on championship teams have been solid role players -- but Manu thus far has been as versatile as they come as a support guy to the best player in the game, Tim Duncan.
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I'd rather have Manu than T-Mac. T-Mac is weak in the head.
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I admit... I have had my share of the Manu Koolaid. I have also drank from the cup of Allen Iverson and Tracy McGrady. The only comparison I can make from Manu to MJ is that they are/were two exciting players that made the game fun to watch. Guys like Manu, AI and TMac, among a few others, can be so unpredictable and unbelievable - it's what really gets the adrenaline pumping and fuels my love of the game.
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Manu is no freakin MJ, but no one is or will ever be. However, he does have MJ's heart it's just MJs game made Magic and Bird look like stiffs.
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I would take mj over manu anyday of the week
I also would have taken magic over tp any day of the week
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I would take mj over manu anyday of the week
I also would have taken magic over tp any day of the week
:lol
Way to make a statement.
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TMSkilz...
On the court they aren't anything alike really...Jordan was a guard who lead the NBA in scoring while shooting over 50%...
By my reckoning, only one other man in NBA history has pulled that off...our own George Gervin(who taught Jordan the secret of winning scoring titles)...but Jordan was also a DPOY player...Gervin wasn't.
Gervin is the guy who comes the closest to what Jordan truly was on the court, a flat out high PCT scoring machine at the guard spot...Jerry West is also right there...
Manu is nothing like those guys...he hasn't even shot 50% yet with Duncan gtting him open...much less being the total focus of the defense and doing it while taking the most shots.
Manu's style of play is a lot closer to Magic Johnson than it is Michael Jordan...I got to see Magic play and Manu would have fit right into the Bird and Magic era of the NBA...he's a throwback to that era.
If you are talking about the impact in popularity and elevating the profile of the NBA worldwide that Jordan had...no. Only one guy could do that and Jordan already did it.
But what Manu could do is raise the international profile of the NBA in a similar way...yes he could have that kind of impact. He could make the NBA more popular in the rest of the world(but so could Yao just by capturing China)
But I do think it's very possible Manu could end up being the most popular player of his era...if that's what you mean by the next MJ...I don't think you are that far off.
No one hates their own like Spursfans...so don't let the naysayers get you down...Manu is busting out...and a lot of great players are absolutely in love with his game. He could very well end up being the most popular player in the World.
On the court he will never be anything close to MJ in terms of style.