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Originally Posted by timvp
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Originally Posted by timvp
That's your definition of superstar; I guess it's not mine. A couple seasons of good playoff performances doesn't make a superstar to me. It's a longevity of superb play to me, which I don't think Manu will sustain over years and years to come. To me, there are very very few superstars.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2centsworth
True, I've said that throughout the playoffs.Quote:
He's not michael jordan, but he's a freak in his own right and clutch as hell. I'll make this clearer for you, without Manu the spurs are at home and don't win in '03 either.
I very much thank the basketball gods for Manu.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
Honestly, I've actually converted to the Church of Manu. Manu has improved so much that I think he's a top ten player in the league. His drive to win is unmatched and his performances have been out of this world. His improvement from year to year has been jaw dropping. Hell, his improvement from this regular season to the playoffs has been awesome.
Now if he has a big Finals and continues to play how he's been playing in the playoffs, I will go on record saying he's a top five player in the league.
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Originally Posted by 1Parker1
Church of Manu :lol :lol . You're not kidding, I've seen it and it's not worth arguing sometimes.
He was fresh of winning the Olympics and having the 48pt game at PHX. Trust me guys, if he doesn't pick up his scoring avg, he's not going to make another allstar avg 16-17 pts a game. Not over Kobe or Tmac. You're not going to see three guards and one point guard again. Nash, Bibby, TP, Davis will take the 3rd and 4th guard spot.
He's good, he's a Spur, we're winning. Lets be happy and quit taking the Manu drugs.
Manu will be the next MJ after he wins 5 more championships. Just because people around here don't believe he's not the next MJ, doesn't make Manu any less of a great player and discount what he's done this year.
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Originally Posted by timvp
Now you're on Manu crack.
No more next MJ!
No more next Magic!
No more next ______!
That's the problem with alot of people, still waiting the next ________!
He drank the Manu koolaid. I tried to stop him, but he was damn thirsty.Quote:
Originally Posted by jcrod
:lol I drank some Parker koolaid this afternoon. It was damn good!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
:drunk
Thank you. May I have another?
I dig you a whole bunch Kori, but your definition has changed in this thread. You started by using the all-star game performance, and now you're saying his future doesn't look bright.Quote:
That's your definition of superstar; I guess it's not mine. A couple seasons of good playoff performances doesn't make a superstar to me. It's a longevity of superb play to me, which I don't think Manu will sustain over years and years to come. To me, there are very very few superstars.
Plus, the guy has acheived at the highest level in international ball. The guy is a superstar, and if he can continue to improve he will be mentioned in the same breath as Kobe and Mcgrady.Quote:
True, I've said that throughout the playoffs.
Then why you dissin' the church?Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
That's pushing it, I'd say best left handed, argentinian human w/a nose as big as a bootQuote:
Originally Posted by timvp
i don't know if that's sarcasm or not, but if the Spurs win and Manu wins MVP you damn str8 you will call him at least a top 10 player.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
Straight up, bro.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2centsworth
Manu has gotten better and better to the point that I'm not sure of another guard I'd want going into the fourth quarter of a big game.
I've said the same thing all along; I've said it in many threads.Quote:
You started by using the all-star game performance, and now you're saying his future doesn't look bright.
I just said "Did you notice in the All-Star game ..." because at the All-Star game many people noticed that he was rattled. It was just an example of him being in the company of many other stars. I didn't say the All-Star was a tell-all on a player's development.
I love Manu and thinks he's incredible on this team. I think his will to win and his effort are superlative. I just don't think he's a superstar in my book. His name isn't getting to get etched along the side of guys like Jordan, Bird, Duncan, etc. But he's definitely a Champion. And definitely a key to this team.
Ah, I think it's just your definition of superstar that messed me up. See, to me T-Mac, Kobe are superstars. Jordan, Bird are legends.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
Manu might have a tough time scoring in this series (relative to previous ones). But I trust him to find a way to make his mark on most games. If his shot is not falling, he should be able to make the hustle plays that will help the team.
Manu has played great in the playoffs thus far, and if he played similiar ball in the finals I would be very suprised and happy.
No Manu is not a Top 10 player in the league, but as a support player he might be one of the better ones to have on a championship team. Sure thats a vague phrase and tons of players on championship teams have been solid role players -- but Manu thus far has been as versatile as they come as a support guy to the best player in the game, Tim Duncan.
I'd rather have Manu than T-Mac. T-Mac is weak in the head.
I admit... I have had my share of the Manu Koolaid. I have also drank from the cup of Allen Iverson and Tracy McGrady. The only comparison I can make from Manu to MJ is that they are/were two exciting players that made the game fun to watch. Guys like Manu, AI and TMac, among a few others, can be so unpredictable and unbelievable - it's what really gets the adrenaline pumping and fuels my love of the game.
Manu is no freakin MJ, but no one is or will ever be. However, he does have MJ's heart it's just MJs game made Magic and Bird look like stiffs.
I would take mj over manu anyday of the week
I also would have taken magic over tp any day of the week
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Originally Posted by ducks
Way to make a statement.
TMSkilz...
On the court they aren't anything alike really...Jordan was a guard who lead the NBA in scoring while shooting over 50%...
By my reckoning, only one other man in NBA history has pulled that off...our own George Gervin(who taught Jordan the secret of winning scoring titles)...but Jordan was also a DPOY player...Gervin wasn't.
Gervin is the guy who comes the closest to what Jordan truly was on the court, a flat out high PCT scoring machine at the guard spot...Jerry West is also right there...
Manu is nothing like those guys...he hasn't even shot 50% yet with Duncan gtting him open...much less being the total focus of the defense and doing it while taking the most shots.
Manu's style of play is a lot closer to Magic Johnson than it is Michael Jordan...I got to see Magic play and Manu would have fit right into the Bird and Magic era of the NBA...he's a throwback to that era.
If you are talking about the impact in popularity and elevating the profile of the NBA worldwide that Jordan had...no. Only one guy could do that and Jordan already did it.
But what Manu could do is raise the international profile of the NBA in a similar way...yes he could have that kind of impact. He could make the NBA more popular in the rest of the world(but so could Yao just by capturing China)
But I do think it's very possible Manu could end up being the most popular player of his era...if that's what you mean by the next MJ...I don't think you are that far off.
No one hates their own like Spursfans...so don't let the naysayers get you down...Manu is busting out...and a lot of great players are absolutely in love with his game. He could very well end up being the most popular player in the World.
On the court he will never be anything close to MJ in terms of style.