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I recommend this course of action.
:rolleyes
I think you should get your head examined, I recommend that course of action!
Yeah, so he gets no minutes whatsoever!
Because we need a undersized powerforward.
Yeah!
Because we don't have Scola coming in tommorrow. Yeah!
This could quite possibly be the dumbest thread in the history of Spurstalk.
Nazr is the man, no question. Starting center next year at this point.
And Malik dunks over seven-footers.
Did Rasho have even seven dunks all year?
OOOOO!!! SCOLA!!!
*claps hands like a kid in anticipation*
Doesn't Rasho warm up the bench better than Rose. :lol
Until the next dumb thread :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
Well, that was kind of my point, obliquely. Rasho as the next great Spurs center?? Now that was dumb.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
Obviously you forgot that Malik makes WAAAAAAY too much money.Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulTiberius
Any point that pines to bring Malik Rose back to SA for anything other than the one time a year the Knicks come to get their asses beat is automatically the dumbest one.Quote:
Well, that was kind of my point, obliquely. Rasho as the next great Spurs center?? Now that was dumb.
Rasho is a top 10 center in the league, Nazr's just playing better.
A center is more needed than a power forward. You need big bodies to guard good centers. Horry is the backup power forward.
Which is not saying much about the centers of Todays NBA :lol :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
I hate haters.
It's obvious Pop is going exclusively with Nazr because it "ain't broke," but Nazr/Rasho at center = matchup Nirvana for Pop next season.
Rasho and Nazr are ABSOLUTELY perfect complements.
Dre, I never said it did.
The point is, there's 20 teams in this league who would kill for Rasho. Spurs will get their long SF of the future out of trading him come this summer after Nazr is extended and Scola is signed.
You got a long small forward in Glenn Robinson. I doubt you could get any more than that for Rasho.
LOL, Glenn is not the prototypical LONG SF I am talking about.
And I guess I should consider the source (a Mavs fan), but a seven foot center who is a really good defender and could score given touches is something a lot of teams are looking for (hell Rasho would be the missing piece for _allas).
I'm still leaning towards signing Big Dog for the MLE (if it still exists), but unless the Cavs can snare Michael Redd, GRob ought to get a nicer offer from Cleveland.
Big Dog = 20 ppg in Cleveland.
Calm down bro! I agree with you! I was just makin a joke about the current talent pool at center in the NBA. It was nothing against you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
Here's my take: Glenn has already made a lot of jack in da' league. He seems genuinely happy and comfortable with his surroundings in SA.
I can easily see him staying.
If not, no big deal, he'll head out with a ring. But I think SA would love to have him back and I think he'd enjoy the hell out of it.
Mike Brown wants consistent defensive players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guru of Nothing
Ditto.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guru of Nothing
You got Bruce Bowen and Robert Horry. I'm sure one of those SF's can guard tall SF's. You don't need another defensive small forward but I guess it would be a bonus.
Bowen is what 33? Horry is 35, 36?Quote:
Originally Posted by mavsfan1000
They wont be playin too much longer!
You don't trade 7 footers with a decent jump shot. Unless you're getting MJ.
As stated earlier the Naz/Rasho combo is great. If we make any moves next season I would recommend getting a decent power forward (ie:Scola) since Horry probably has one good year left in him.
Because
1) Robert Horry is going to be around for another 5 years
2) Same for Bowen.
I'm a big picture guy, I am talking about locking up the Spurs starting five for the rest of the Tim Duncan era.
You already got Tim, Manu, Tony, extend Nazr this summer, bring in Scola as a backup big, then send out Rasho for a long SF (someone to matchup with the Rashards, Tayshauns, Marions, Odoms of the world).
Why why you you said said this this twice twice? ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Guru of Nothing
Glenn Robinson's defense looked pretty good today. With Popovich as coach I think Glenn will be inspired to play more defense. It's not like he doesn't have the ability to play defense. It is more the mindset and concentration and Pop can help this.
so, what's your option IF Nazr's groin will give in during the course of the playoffs, if Malik is the better option or Rasho, esp now that we're playing a top defensive team?
..i recommend you examine first the best option. :rolleyes
RX
Dr. Milkyway21
NO!
Bowen can guard the more athletic small forwards and Glenn Robinson can guard the bigger small forwards. I would stick with Glenn Robinson. He is a perfect fit being instant offense off the bench and a training camp with Popovich would only help his defense and discipline.
Horry has maybe a year left.
Bowen's maybe got 2-3 years left before his legs go and he starts getting torched like we regularly see happen to Jason Kidd these days.
Glenn Robinson is not quick enough to guard guys like Odom, Rashard, etc. That's my point. You need someone that can give you that, and the way the league is going the next generation of SF is going to be the long athletic types.
It's really the only glaring weakness in the Spurs two deep for the rest of the Tim Duncan era.
It is not a problem now because no one has been able to exploit it. I would assume that Glenn Robinson wouldn't have as much trouble with Odom as someone like Mcgrady. I haven't seen enough of him but I assume he could hold his own against the bigger small forwards but struggle against the small SF's that are more like shooting guards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
So because it hasn't been a problem, you shouldn't address it?
SA is going to be the team to beat for the remainder of the Tim-Manu-Tony era. That's a fact. And when you're on top, you've got to continually do things to improve your game b/c everyone is shooting for you.
The long 3 is the Spurs weakness, they need to do something to address it.
Glenn Robinson is no spring chicken and its assenine to keep thinking he's going to be some kind of defensive stopper/matchup advantage for the next 5-6 years.
Hell, there's a better than even chance that he won't even be here NEXT year.
Any team with this type of player would not trade for Rasho. You will not get anyone better unless it is in the draft. Manu can guard and Bowen can guard the matchups Glenn can't. They are still pretty young and can be effective for 3-5 years.
WE would not be in the finals if Malik was on the team at this time..!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe we can trade Rasho to NY for a couple of draft picks. :lol
i agree. dude is straight garbage. softest center in the league. whoever said he's top 10 is on crack. he's number 10 if he's lucky
all of these centers are better than rasho:
shaq
yao
b. miller
illgauskus
camby
wallace
dampier
nazr
okafor
gadzuric
:lmao :lmao :lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by itzsoweezee
For real he could easily play some minutes especialy when they were do shit in first half.
Sems that pop is planing some shit :lol :lol
But anyway great second half, especal GINOBILI :smokin :smokin
:lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by itzsoweezee
:stfu
i canīt understand you people ..( haters. so caled.)
are you blind or just donīt get it.. you donīt have one good center in team, you have two.!! nazr is playing very good.. i was surprised to see him play that good, after his plays in nY and sixers. he has shown that he can be also a solid offensive player.. he is limited, but if he want, he can score. and what is more important.. you have a great coach. no doubt.. pop is the man,. and that he benched rasho is extremly good decision. rasho had a worst season in last few years. and he need to realize, that he hasnīt reach everything in his career, and that he still must to work hard and improve his game. -if he still want to play!! nba.. i hope he is angry right now..sitting on the bench. and will clear his mind till next season, and return ready to comeback. reality is that he is one of the top centers in the league. no doubt about it. he s not explosive, but heīs very mobile for a 7 footer.. and a great defender.. to prove his offence he need to add something more. he need to play with full desire, all the time. he should know, that if he is a starting center, he need to do something more than just defend and help timmy to score point for both. he need to present force also on the offence. if he donīt .. or if he donīt want.. he should sit. thats it..
he will not be traded.. believe me.. spurs didnīt sign him to be traded. he just have to find the right way.
and iīm sure that he will start next season. yes he sux now.. but when he donīt he i far faaaaarr better player than nazt, or f.a.c.k.i.nī gadzuric, or dampier and other listed freaks..
With all due respect, when the Spurs signed him Nazr hadn't fallen in their lap, either.Quote:
spurs didnīt sign him to be traded.
Forget it mavsfan. I don't know what you're smoking up there in _allas. It's probably 70-30 or 60-40 that Glenn Robinson won't even be here next year, and you're counting on him to be our "defensive stopper" for the next 3-5. :lol
I give up.
STOP TALKING SHIT ABOUT RASHO... NOT SOFT... HES JUST SLOVENIAN... :) u guys that talk all the shit about rasho are the ones who dont remember the good times... hell be back... and having two of the best centers in the league gives us an advantage against teams like miami and others who have good centers
I agree. remember how the Glove lost his edge when he hit 35?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
malik = bad value
if malik made 2-4 mil/year and never, ever, ever, ever, ever took a shot other then a dunk or layup then I would almost consider it.
Here's why you don't:
1. Hopefully horry re-signs this offseason, horry > (malik x 10)
2. Rasho, though overpaid is a good matchup with shaq (we all know that if wade was healthy mia would be in the finals)
3. nazr tends to have injury problems so rasho is a great back up and reg season minutes guy (horry rests until the REAL*playoff* season)
4. We got scola comin in next year
Hope that's enough logic for you. My advice, think with your head not your heart unless you want to be the rockets toward the end of hakeems career.
Trade Rasho to Dallas for Josh Howard. They'd do it, and that solves the long SF problem. Mavs are lucky to have Howard. He's the next Bowen, in my opinion, and he's a better scorer/rebounder than Bowen is.
Since when did we have a problem with long sf? Last I recalled anthony didn't do to well against us. Who else is a long sf? Odom plays the 4, so does dirk. Oh yeah that lewis didn't do so well when he was healthy when freakin barry was guarding him.
If the Mavs actually did that deal, the DFW media would be convinced Avery Johnson is still working for the Spurs.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamJacksJersey
Josh Howard is exactly the player the Spurs would be looking to get. Dallas will not do a deal that makes the Spurs better any more than the Spurs would have made a deal five years ago that made the Lakers better.
Bowen is like 34. Ideally, the Spurs would like a guy a little bit taller once Bowen goes into decline, which will start in the next year or two.Quote:
Originally Posted by duncan_21
Gadzuric?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!!??!?! Dude, what are you smoking?!?!!!!!??!! :smokinQuote:
Originally Posted by itzsoweezee
Gads is AWFUL!
Oh, and Okafor is a PF, so is Camby pretty much.
My list of Top centers would go:
1.Shaq
2.Yao
3.Big Ben
4.Z
5.Miller
6.Nazr
7.Dampier
8.Rasho
9.Eddy Curry
10. Crap, cant think, who else is a decent center in the league??
Glenn Robinsobn is not a "defensive stopper" but he is a better option than an old Bowen and whatever you got now. You could make a sign and trade with Minnesota for Trenton Hassell or draft picks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
Dallas let go of Steve Nash to get Erick Dampier. I think you could convince them to do it if you gave them a (somewhat) legit center and maybe a draft pick. It'd be worth it for the spurs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Extra Stout
Mohammad is a legit center not Rasho.
Sorry to let you in on this, but both them and their grandmothers are better than Dampier.Quote:
Originally Posted by mavsfan1000
Dampier had a tough time with Stoudemire because he was the only one to that was able to guard Stoudemire. San Antonio had Mohammad, Horry, and Duncan who could guard Stoudemire to prevent foul trouble. We need a backup center.
Quote:
Originally Posted by mavsfan1000
Well, nobody can really guard Stoudemire. When he learns how to make his teammates better a la Duncan, he'll be amazing. I think what the Mavs need is a legit center, not a backup.
We need a backup that is as good as Dampier. Shawn Bradley is a joke so how about Bradley for Nesterovic. :lol :drunk :spin